ParanoiA Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 Toasty, you seem to be equating human nature with human behavior. I thought jryan already made the point that behaviors will fluctuate but the nature of man will not. For instance: Do you go and hunt buffalo for your food? Yes, we still eat meat by killing, not by synthesis. Do you dance the rain dance to make sure your crops get watered? Yes, we watch the news forecast and if rain isn't likely, crops are watered - we are tool makers. Tool making doesn't change our nature either. Would you ever trade your daughter to her future husband because he has the best livestock to offer? Yes, people still use and manipulate their offspring to acquire access to old and new money. Is it acceptable to beat your wife if what you use to beat her is no wider than your thumb? Yes, many men still beat and subjugate their women. These are all examples of human behavior that are not as prevalent anymore and in some cases have been outlawed. To imply that human behavior doesn't change is just madness. With technological change there is inevitable social/behavioral change. Right, those are all examples of human behavior - and none of them say anything about the nature of men to desire them. To this day, murder is illegal and we have a hands down, super majority that would agree it should be illegal and will comply - yet men still kill men. Our nature has not changed, despite our best efforts. All these factors effect human behavior, many of these factors are always changing. So how can you argue that human behavior has not changed in the slightest? Its just dishonest. It's also dishonest to misrepresent his argument as a statement about behavior rather than a statement about nature. I think it was an honest misstep on your part, but you've left no room for modesty when you characterize his statement as "bunch of crap" and calling his argument a "lie". And what basic instinct was it that employed us to create the railroad? Making tools? Don't misunderstand, I'm not necessarily in agreement with the "there is nothing new under the sun". At this point I just find it curious and there are decent points on both sides of this, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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