creating H+ ions.

[marmin74]

Hello,

I want to create H+ ions (protons), and release them into the air, by means of a device I can build myself.

 

My questions are

1) Can I make a device, at home, that is able to create H+ ions (f.e. out of water molecules) and release these into the air.

2) How would I proceed in doing so?

 

Thanks.

Edited November 24, 2009 by marmin74
clarification

[darkenlighten]

Probably through electrolysis : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysis_of_water , but why?

[Fuzzwood]

Then you would get H₂

[Mr Skeptic]

What's the purpose of the H+ ions?

[marmin74]

I want to make my own air purifier. I can make O- ions by means of a simple ionizer I have. Now I need to make H+ ions, and thus I can make myself this technology:

 

http://www.sharp.co.jp/plasmacluster-tech/en/technology.html

 

Is there some positive charge I can apply to the water molecules in the air?

[Fuzzwood]

No you cant make O^- ions either. That thing you posted is based on the same principle as those magnetized pendants: guillible customers.

[Horza2002]

The O- ion is impossible to exists...its far to unstable!! The dianion might exist in extreme conditions but not the O- ion

[marmin74]

No you cant make O^- ions either. That thing you posted is based on the same principle as those magnetized pendants: guillible customers.

 

Are you talking about the link I provided? I suggest doing some research before reacting, this tech is tested and used widely. Study it, you might learn something.

Where do you get your idea that anions are unstable? They don't exist for very long, ranging from seconds to minutes, but they are easily measurable depending on air quality.

Is this a science forum or what?

Edited December 3, 2009 by marmin74
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[Bob_for_short]

Hello,

I want to create H+ ions (protons), and release them into the air, by means of a device I can build myself.

 

Protons are charged. That means they are very sticky. You need a laboratory equipment to obtain a proton beam. Also you will not be able "to release" them in the air as if they were neutral. They will return to the negatively charged equipment. You have to make a closed circuit in order not to accumulate a positive/negative charge at some place.

[Horza2002]

Are you talking about the link I provided? I suggest doing some research before reacting, this tech is tested and used widely. Study it, you might learn something.

Where do you get your idea that anions are unstable? They don't exist for very long, ranging from seconds to minutes, but they are easily measurable depending on air quality.

Is this a science forum or what?

 

Who said that anions are unstable....what we said that was O- was very unstable especially as it would b a radical anion. It would rapidly (in the range of pico seconds) abstract a hydrogen from anything to give the hydroxide anion.