Bishadi Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 most say it is blue and talk about R scattering. i say otherwise. any wish to debate the color of the sky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaynos Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 It's pretty easy to stick a spectrometer at the sky and show it's blue. Not really a subject of debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphus Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 I'm probably going to regret asking, but what do you say otherwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishadi Posted August 6, 2009 Author Share Posted August 6, 2009 It's pretty easy to stick a spectrometer at the sky and show it's blue. Not really a subject of debate. What makes your claim so pure when common sense can shut that position down? Merged post follows: Consecutive posts mergedI'm probably going to regret asking, but what do you say otherwise? because of evidence, common sense, reality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaynos Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 What makes your claim so pure when common sense can shut that position down? Evidence trumps common sense I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphus Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 What is the purpose of this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishadi Posted August 6, 2009 Author Share Posted August 6, 2009 What is the purpose of this thread? to share that the 'perspective' to classical physics is relevant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaynos Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Spectrum_of_blue_sky.png First one I found on googleing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishadi Posted August 6, 2009 Author Share Posted August 6, 2009 Evidence trumps common sense I'm afraid. so if i said the sky is black with lil' white dots; is it common sense with evidence or am i wrong just for observing in a different (albeit perfectly true) manner? ie.... eddington did not provide evidence for einsteins postulate on the space bending (eclipse) is what a mirage; the light from stars behind the sun are being diverted by the coronal energy of the sun. see how common sense and perspective just expose reality over the accepted renditions of classical physics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphus Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 I should be more clear. In your next post, answer my first question, what it is that "you say otherwise." What leads you to say that the sky is not blue? Keep in mind that if your answer is "common sense" then I'm closing the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishadi Posted August 6, 2009 Author Share Posted August 6, 2009 I should be more clear. In your next post, answer my first question, what it is that "you say otherwise." What leads you to say that the sky is not blue? Keep in mind that if your answer is "common sense" then I'm closing the thread. as ooooosual i offer thoughts and get hammered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaynos Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 as ooooosual i offer thoughts and get hammered You've offered nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane_alien Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 thats because of your refusal to accept even the possibility that you are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishadi Posted August 6, 2009 Author Share Posted August 6, 2009 so if i said the sky is black with lil' white dots; is it common sense with evidence or am i wrong just for observing in a different (albeit perfectly true) manner? ie.... eddington did not provide evidence for einsteins postulate on the space bending (eclipse) is what a mirage; the light from stars behind the sun are being diverted by the coronal energy of the sun. see how common sense and perspective just expose reality over the accepted renditions of classical physics is each line in this thread all true, of common sense and with enough evidence that a child could comprehend it Merged post follows: Consecutive posts mergedYou've offered nothing. now any can say the sky is not blue and be able to back it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane_alien Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 common sense doesn't matter if thats not what happens. common sense accounts for bugger all. its common sense that liquids sit at the bottom of a container yet liquid helium will climb the walls, run down the sides of the container and pool around it. its not common sense but it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 and with enough evidence that a child could comprehend it Then kindly provide your evidence. We do not like people who make claims without supporting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNow Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Keep in mind that if your answer is "common sense" then I'm closing the thread. Please live up to this promise. Please. With a cherry on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishadi Posted August 6, 2009 Author Share Posted August 6, 2009 thats because of your refusal to accept even the possibility that you are wrong. i have been wrong from the eyes of the 'community' for almost 3 decades on more items than you can shake a stick at don't mean i am wrong to myself (meaning; i have more integrity to seek truth, reality and the absolute; then a reason to live) some talk about being absolute; some do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaynos Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 is each line in this thread all true, of common sense and with enough evidence that a child could comprehend it Merged post follows: Consecutive posts merged now any can say the sky is not blue and be able to back it up This is why we use unbiased equipment to measure things, and quantify them. It removes confusion and allows the spread of knowledge. If you noticed I posted experimental evidence that the sky is blue in results of a spectrometer, a quantitative measurement, in my first reply I mentioned that there was a requirement for such a thing. Humans are poor measurement devices. Very poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishadi Posted August 6, 2009 Author Share Posted August 6, 2009 This is why we use unbiased equipment to measure things, and quantify them. K, i love the pursuit of evidence that is verifiable. (ie... once the truth is established and the understanding of life is comprehended globally; the rituals of beliefs will be over) i am on THE TEAM It removes confusion and allows the spread of knowledge. i am with you on that; we have the internet and why borders and direction of educational pursuits can be overcome. If you noticed I posted experimental evidence that the sky is blue in results of a spectrometer, a quantitative measurement, in my first reply I mentioned that there was a requirement for such a thing. Humans are poor measurement devices. Very poor. but in this case; the sky is more often black with lil'white dots than blue such as life has abused entropy for billions of years and the evidence far exceeds any measurements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaynos Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 i have been wrong from the eyes of the 'community' for almost 3 decades on more items than you can shake a stick at don't mean i am wrong to myself (meaning; i have more integrity to seek truth, reality and the absolute; then a reason to live) some talk about being absolute; some do it You must remember that the community only cares about whether what you are saying compares to reality. If it doesn't out the window it goes. Merged post follows: Consecutive posts mergedhttp://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu//full/1941ApNr....3..273S/0000273.000.html I still say blue... even with their dodgy axis labelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphus Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 So, the point of this thread is to say that the sky looks different at night than it does during the day? Ok. Consider it said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishadi Posted August 6, 2009 Author Share Posted August 6, 2009 So, the point of this thread is to say that the sky looks different at night than it does during the day? Ok. Consider it said. why not state it clearly; the sky 'in total' is better described as black with lil white dots than blue; as to leave earth; the blue is thereby almost exclusively observed upon the earth (naturally speaking of course) some say, well the sky is the atmosphere; then i ask what is the night sky. my point is 'observational' or having an expanded view offers far more than staying put just to retain assimilation to the 'classical' view of observation. that is what science is all about. for example; if we all within 'existence', and we are from evolved life that came to be able to 'create' words; then could it be realized or even asked: is existence defining itself? (see words as fractals) can you get an idea of why i opened this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaynos Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 The thing is, science is about clarity, not trying to deceive others and tricking them using words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted August 6, 2009 Share Posted August 6, 2009 Thank you, xkcd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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