hellomister Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 In a cyclic alkene with one double bond and a methyl group on the carbon of that double bond, is it necessary to state the position of the methyl group? Do i really need to write 1-methylcyclobutene for instance?? wouldnt you just assume the methyl group is on the first carbon of the double bond? if you didnt have a number? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane_alien Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 you need to state the number, there would be no reason to assume it was on the first carbon. it could just as easily be on one of the non double bonded carbon atoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big314mp Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 You can only get away with not putting a number, when there is only one place the group could go. Ex: methylpropane. 1 and 3 methylpropanes don't make sense, as they would be n-butane. Therefore, the only methylpropane is 2-methylpropane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellomister Posted October 31, 2008 Author Share Posted October 31, 2008 oh i just assumed that if it was on one of the other non double bonded carbons you would put a number to indicate that, thanks for clarifying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChemSiddiqui Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 nomenclature follow a set of rule for organic molecules. Its always important to state where any subtituent will be at the any organic compounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane_alien Posted November 1, 2008 Share Posted November 1, 2008 basically, in science if someone has to make assumptions to figure out exactly what you mean then you aren't doing a very good job. if you make assumptions you have to state very clearly exactly what those assumptions are and possibly justify those assumptions to some extent. the less assumptions that need to be made the better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karmbo_91 Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Very nice topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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