Dreamer Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 What are the average IQ's of Physics, Chemistry and Biology B.S-M.S-Ph.D's? Can IQ measure intelligence? What is the meaning of an IQ score? How can it be explained that the IQ of Richard Feynman (Greatest scientific mind since WW2) is 'only' around 125, below Madonna (142)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKiri Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 IQ is rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudde Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 IQ tests are nothing more than playthings, as are the scores (but somebody else will have to explain them to you, because obviously MrL cannot) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 Dudde and MrL must have low IQs :jk: :jk: :jk: :jk: :jk: :jk: :jk: :jk: :jk: :jk: :jk: :jk: :jk: :jk: :jk: :jk: :jk: :jk: :jk: :jk: :jk: :jk: :jk: :jk: :jk: :jk: :jk: :jk: :jk: :jk: :jk: :jk: :jk: :jk: :jk: Just so you know I'm KIDDING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKiri Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 Dudde said in post # :IQ tests are nothing more than playthings, as are the scores (but somebody else will have to explain them to you, because obviously MrL cannot) There's a fundamental difference between cannot and chooses not to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSX Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 Wow, Madonna has 142 IQ? IQ's alot of factors. It' kinda' funny actually. My prof. went in for a iq test, and for written/communication or whatnot, he scored "barely retarded" in his words. For his spatial (imaging 3d stuff), he placed 7th out of a million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 and Madona (albeit against my better tastes) is actualy quite a shrewd business woman, and more than certainly knows how to play the media game, I have no problem understanding how she may score so highly on such a test at all, even though her muzik sux and her acting (so to speak) is even worse. as MrL said, IQ is Rubbish! (or at least the tests to establish it are!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKiri Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 The IQ test was only designed to be able to measure intellect when combined with a large number of other scores, and even then it's making quite a few assumptions about the distribution of intelligence, and the tests that are given are in fact almost always wrong, as they don't take the assumed distribution into account. For instance, in the 'Test the Nation' thing on BBC, they not only had a very very poor IQ test, they also came out with an average IQ of 107 for the country, which is impossible given that the average is ALWAYS 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fairbank Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 since the chems in our air kills brain cells, do we get stupider or are we making up for it by processing media? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheetah Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 MrL_JaKiri said in post # :For instance, in the 'Test the Nation' thing on BBC, they not only had a very very poor IQ test, they also came out with an average IQ of 107 for the country, which is impossible given that the average is ALWAYS 100. Looking at the status of the Earth, I find it hard to believe that the average human has an IQ of 100... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 When measuring a group quantitatively with an IQ test, 100 is the definition of average, but a real group of people will virtually never meet that average. The average of everyone in the world will work out to be pretty close to 100... but with a select group of people, it can be higher. Like the average IQ in an upper level science course is probably around 120. The 107 average is still within one standard deviation (15 points, 85-115) from the mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atinymonkey Posted January 18, 2004 Share Posted January 18, 2004 When I was in junior school we had mandatory IQ tests and the results were expressed in % rather than the number (as in your in the top 20%, top 10% of the country etc). Interestingly they never explained that it was an IQ test, I only found out 8 years later when I was told by accident (when they were going through university applications at school). The government only carried it the tests on 5 years of students, and then ceased. Hence my suspicion of both the UK governments tracking of intelligence and that stupid Mensa thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 IQ is only for determining how well you can take data and process it in a given amount of time. IQ determines things like problem solving. If you are like me, and know things like the max range of an AIM-54 is more than 90 miles, and that the speed of light is 186,000 mps, and orbital velocity at 200 miles up is 17,300 mph, that doesn't affect IQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamer Posted January 19, 2004 Author Share Posted January 19, 2004 My IQ is 152, with lowest in Verbal and highest in Math. That's kinda funny, because most of other people consider me a total idiot. Actually, they even thought I was an idiot; that's why they forced me to take an IQ test. My 'exceptional' mental abilities never helped me, though. I never excelled in anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 152! wow, beats me, 149 here, and yeah, I get alot of that "other people consider me a total idiot" thing too, `till I open my mouth (and then they KNOW I`m totaly out of my tree, LOL). seriously though, I`de value Common Sense and LifeSkills a great deal more than IQ (personal Opinion). I guess the IQ thing is just another way to put us all into neat little boxes or pidgeon holes, rather than treat us like one big pink homogenous blob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayonara Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 YT2095 said in post # :seriously though, I`de value Common Sense and LifeSkills a great deal more than IQ (personal Opinion). I tend to agree, except where IQ will be a determining factor in the situation (for instance, during IQ tests ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 Maybe they should do the CSQ, the Common Sense Quotient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 sadly however, common sense isn`t all that common, Ipso facto; there IS NO CSQ already implemented Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Refsmmat Posted January 19, 2004 Share Posted January 19, 2004 At school they teach you "life management" when they should have "common sense"! Nobody has spare change these days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted January 20, 2004 Share Posted January 20, 2004 Since when are IQ tests scored in verbal and math? there should be at least 3 different subscores on a real iq test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MishMish Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 Just took the WAIS. Did not score so high as Dreamer (138, standardized for age/gender) and can well understand how does not help in real life. And while have not specifically received the "idiot" response, generally appear smart and capable enough that when find simple matters baffling is interpreted as willful obstinacy, some sort of game or some other such moral failing What readings have done to date on autism spectrum disorders have been illuminating and sobering, as can identify how many of the cognitive deficits (and in most cases, though not all, must agree they do indeed represent deficits) do apply to me (and not to ignore the emotional, but not the topic here) Have questions myself for how the IQ is to be interpreted, having just taken it. My summation score before the age/gender standarization was 163, and not sure what that is or is not supposed to correlate to, or rather, am not sure how would turn for a different age/gender group and what the validity of that micro standardization is The summary scores are reported as verbal and performance, the index as verbal, perceptual, and working memory. Also, a difference between verbal and performance of 10 is supposedly of some significance, whereas seems to me at a minimum should be based on some sort of percent difference not absolute (they also gave me the frequency for the difference, in my case 12, as 27.8%, which pretty much shows far as I'm concerned how artificial an absolute difference is for significance) Mr L_JaKiri, will accept any explanations or elaborations you (or anyone else) care to offer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aommaster Posted January 27, 2004 Share Posted January 27, 2004 i wonder if anyone would have an IQ of 0!!! Did you know? the highest IQ measured of a dog is 7! Qutie smart, i must say. It was taking a human test!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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