insane_alien Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 We're now one step closer to achieving quantum computing, as scientists have actually altered the state of a single electron. quite amazing. http://www.tudelft.nl/live/pagina.jsp?id=4b3e55d0-1a34-4388-b3ca-acbe48c87696〈=en [Edited for sanity for front-page use - Cap'n] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 "An electron does not only have an electrical charge, but it also behaves like an ultrasmall magnet. This is caused by the spinning of the electron around its axis" GAH! One of biggest obstackes to scientific understanding in the general population has to be the deplorable state of science reporting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaAotS Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 So, any estimates on how long till we having quantum computers? I'm thinking 15 yrs probably. We'll probably hit the processor speed "wall" soon with our current computer chips, and when that happens funding will be poured into possible alternatives... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane_alien Posted August 18, 2006 Author Share Posted August 18, 2006 well, whe do have quantum computers just now but they suck at the moment. it needs further research to bring them up to the standards of a modern PC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutZ Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 From what I read else where quantum computers have an edge in computing large equations, they don't particularly go faster than an normal PC. It's like having 50 PC's hooked together essentially. Is this correct? P.S. Go Holland! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaAotS Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 er... we dont really have quantum computers at all other then the above example, which I guess would be a system with only 1 bit A fully built quantum computer in the sense, would work much faster. More calculations per second means it can do any task that much faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timo Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 I´d like to add that the clue about quantum computers is not that they are faster in the sense of "more operations per second". The clue is that losely speaking they base on a different mathematical model. That enables algorithms which are not possible with normal computers. The interest in quantum computers lies in these new algorithms which are not possible with normal computers, not in that they are seen as the solution to build a 20 GHz Pentium8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane_alien Posted August 23, 2006 Author Share Posted August 23, 2006 Canada, check this out. look especially at the 2000's where it lists the first demonstrations of quantum computers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutZ Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 I´d like to add that the clue about quantum computers is not that they are faster in the sense of "more operations per second". The clue is that losely speaking they base on a different mathematical model. That enables algorithms which are not possible with normal computers. The interest in quantum computers lies in these new algorithms which are not possible with normal computers, not in that they are seen as the solution to build a 20 GHz Pentium8. Yeah thats what I meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calbiterol Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 One of the ideas behind quantum computing is that each q-bit can be in every possible state at once. This means that a quantum computer could, in theory, do multiple, similar calculations at once. It's like dual processors times a bunch. To compare to a binary system (note: qbits are not binary), it would be like each bit was both 1 and 0 at the same time, allowing for the excecution of thousands of iterations of a program in the same time it would take to excecute one iteration on a normal computer. If I remember correctly, that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jck Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Hi, Not really my topic but I did think the key was the "in-between-state" where a switch was on and off at the same time, this being the intrinsically fast switching possibility. john jck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulawayo Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 So, any estimates on how long till we having quantum computers? I'm thinking 15 yrs probably. We'll probably hit the processor speed "wall" soon with our current computer chips, and when that happens funding will be poured into possible alternatives... I think much sooner, maybe within 6 - 12 months. In Nigeria we fund research into this for many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 I think much sooner, maybe within 6 - 12 months. In Nigeria we fund research into this for many years. Almost nothing gets commercialized that fast, from lab demo to useful product. At what level does Nigeria fund ths research? (and how does that compare to the rest of the world?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexus Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 So basically today's PCs use 1s and zeros, and quantum computers use more than that? ... Sorry I'm asking much questions in various topics, but I was told on this forum the best way to learn is to ask. Thnx in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriggerGrinn Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 Before quantum computers take over, I think there is going to be alot of major upgrades in electronic computers. Recently they have been developing systems that use both the charge of electrons and the magnetic properties to do computation. I know very little about it, but the result is that they can develope much much faster computers.. A full on quantum computer is just going to be insane.. We're talking storing entire documents on photons, compared to breaking it into bits... nutso! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane_alien Posted February 22, 2007 Author Share Posted February 22, 2007 trigger, they've already stored an image on a single photon, the article was on slashdot a while back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 trigger, they've already stored an image on a single photon, the article was on slashdot a while back. Yeah, and it was way cool. Here's a summary: http://www.physorg.com/news88439430.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insane_alien Posted February 22, 2007 Author Share Posted February 22, 2007 thanks swansont, i was running late for a class so i couldn't get a link there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Albers Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 "An electron does not only have an electrical charge, but it also behaves like an ultrasmall magnet. This is caused by the spinning of the electron around its axis" GAH! One of biggest obstackes to scientific understanding in the general population has to be the deplorable state of science reporting. Don't you think something spins? I do. Electrons have a magnetic moment. If you look at my model, you see locally angular momentum vectors pointing along the surface of the sphere, but they have a z-component (sin(theta)) in summation. Quantum mechanics gives us relations between total angular momentum and z-component. I wound many electromagnets as a kid and believe in this physics. Here, the carrier is the superconducting vacuum. Now think about differentials in automobile drivelines. They deal with different spin rates. Somewhere in the Feynman Lectures I read "maybe we'll find the internal gears of the electron." I am speaking of the characeristics of rotation of whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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