ironsphoenix Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Can anyone give us the name of a substance. We need something we can mix with gas to change the color of the flames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woelen Posted January 2, 2006 Share Posted January 2, 2006 Methylborate may help you. Dissolve some boric acid in methanol and pass your gas over this solution, before it is led to the outlet, where it is ignited. This gives you a green flame, which looks really cool. Please, when you ask a question next time, use a more informative title for the topic. A scream "I need help" with an exclamation mark sign even causes people to stay away from the topic sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironsphoenix Posted January 2, 2006 Author Share Posted January 2, 2006 Thanks, we will give it a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stsanthony Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 can you tell me the results of the test? I am quite curious in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woelen Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Look at the color of the flames of burning methylborate ester. Even a trace of this ester in a flame, which is otherwise pale blue or colorless gives rise to beautiful green flames. I did the experiment and put it on my website. http://woelen.scheikunde.net/science/chem/exps/borate_ester/index.html The green flame really is cool. It looks great, especially in a dimly lit room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironsphoenix Posted January 4, 2006 Author Share Posted January 4, 2006 Can i use Boric Acid-------ROACH BORIC ACID KILLER Methanol----------Wood Alcohol Ethanol--------------Cologne What other things could i use? Can i add solvent red 24 to give it red smoke or will it kill the color? could a guy mix gas with Styrofoam with Ethanol, Methanol, and Boric Acid. and get the same flame with a longer burn time. What I want to make is a flammable liq. i can keep in a vial. so if i had a camp fire i could place the vial in the flames and get a great green flame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woelen Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 If that is what you want, then simply dissolve as much boric acid as possible in methanol and keep that in a bottle. You can dissolve a few grams of boric acid in 100 ml of methanol. No gas needed at all. When you want the green flame, then you can put the liquid on a (small) fire. Do not put the entire vial in a fire, as that may rupture due to pressure buildup and may explode. As my website shows, using ethanol is less succesfull. The flame is not pure green, but orange with green rims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironsphoenix Posted January 4, 2006 Author Share Posted January 4, 2006 I was thinking, what might happen if i ground copper, and burned it with gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted January 4, 2006 Share Posted January 4, 2006 well if you`re willing to use particulate matter, then copper salts would give a better blue than copper alone, use Strontium for Red fire and Barium for green Soidium for Yellow, potassium for lilac. with these basic colors you can make any color imaginable by mixing them like paints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilja Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 Copper(II)Chloride gives a really good green/blue flame if i remember well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcapr Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 "Can i add solvent red 24 to give it red smoke or will it kill the color?" Is it me or is he trying to make something that makes colored smoke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YT2095 Posted January 6, 2006 Share Posted January 6, 2006 well if it`s colored Smoke that`s required then a simple pyro comp with Rhodamine B is what I`de use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironsphoenix Posted January 7, 2006 Author Share Posted January 7, 2006 where can i get copper salt???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironsphoenix Posted January 7, 2006 Author Share Posted January 7, 2006 where can i get Strontium?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironsphoenix Posted January 13, 2006 Author Share Posted January 13, 2006 Boric acid and denatured Alcohol Works Great.... I found everything at Walmart Boric acid was in the first aid($2.50)4OZ Denatured alcohol was in the paint($3.00)1Quart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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