Saber Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 (edited) I need a graph that shows the average suicide rate in different months of the year......... I searched the net couldnt find anything...... i would be pleased if anybody could help me with this thank you ...... Edited May 26 by Saber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genady Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 4 minutes ago, Saber said: I need a graph that shows the average suicide rate in different month of the year......... I searched the net couldnt find anything...... i would be pleased if anybody could help me with this thank you ...... Give me the data and I will give you the graph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensei Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 48 minutes ago, Saber said: I searched the net couldnt find anything.. How is that possible? I used this: https://www.google.com/search?q=suicide+rate+per+month and got straight away.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVat Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Perhaps google something like correlation between suicide rate and month. I have heard there's a peak in late spring and early summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saber Posted May 26 Author Share Posted May 26 Thanx to all folks............but i thought it peaked in winter..............seems i was not right .......right ? in the graph Mr. Sensi showed it indicated that its vise versa.......and its min. is in winter ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensei Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 @Saber It all depends on the details. When it's winter in the northern hemisphere, it's summer in the southern hemisphere. So, get Australia etc. data, and analyze it, compare with northern hemisphere country.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exchemist Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 7 hours ago, Saber said: Thanx to all folks............but i thought it peaked in winter..............seems i was not right .......right ? in the graph Mr. Sensi showed it indicated that its vise versa.......and its min. is in winter ... I’ve heard the same, for N Europe, I think. But that graph looks as if it may be for the US. Possibly the pressures are seasonally different there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saber Posted May 27 Author Share Posted May 27 7 hours ago, Sensei said: @Saber It all depends on the details. When it's winter in the northern hemisphere, it's summer in the southern hemisphere. So, get Australia etc. data, and analyze it, compare with northern hemisphere country.. The population who lives in the south is so low i dont think its significant enough to have any affect on the global graphs.....nd nearly all of them live in the latitudes who dont have winter.....only in NZ & the southern parts of Argentina + Chile....and maybe some mild winter in Victoria & Tasmania of Aus. all of them wouldnt add up to 45M people = 0.5% of the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensei Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 (edited) 6 hours ago, exchemist said: I’ve heard the same, for N Europe, I think. But that graph looks as if it may be for the US. Possibly the pressures are seasonally different there. The water is cold in winter, so people who want to commit suicide by jumping into the river are afraid of dying from freezing, not drowning.. ps. The availability of weapons in the U.S. (and similar places) makes the situation different than in the rest of the world.. ps2. There are a lot of people in the US who are afraid to be alone, so they take a few people with them.. Edited May 27 by Sensei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimreepr Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 56 minutes ago, Sensei said: The water is cold in winter, so people who want to commit suicide by jumping into the river are afraid of dying from freezing, not drowning.. People who want to commit suicide, are afraid of pain not death... 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exchemist Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 1 hour ago, Sensei said: The water is cold in winter, so people who want to commit suicide by jumping into the river are afraid of dying from freezing, not drowning.. ps. The availability of weapons in the U.S. (and similar places) makes the situation different than in the rest of the world.. ps2. There are a lot of people in the US who are afraid to be alone, so they take a few people with them.. There is also the opioid crisis in the US, which I understand results in suicides. https://www.nimh.nih.gov/about/director/messages/2019/suicide-deaths-are-a-major-component-of-the-opioid-crisis-that-must-be-addressed But I can't account for the seasonality. On looking into it briefly, I am unable to substantiate what I had previously understood about a suicide peak in winter in N Europe. It may be that that is just a popular myth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensei Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 (edited) @exchemist Understandable. The myth found me (Google gave it). It is purely US issue. Here not existent. I know nobody who takes any opioids (legally or illegally).. 47 minutes ago, exchemist said: There is also the opioid crisis in the US, which I understand results in suicides. ..but they are depressants.. i.e., they make a person less active, less agitated, sleepy.. etc. It is hard to commit suicide if you are drunk and almost sleeping, as long as you have no easy access to weapons (and bike/motor/car).. (You need the statistics of blood analysis of people who committed suicide, how many of them were under the influence of X, Y and Z...) Which opens yet another level of complexity - how many of drunk drivers/motorcyclists were actually suiciders-to-be.., ("did they hit XXX (e.g. tree) and died because they were drunk/intoxicated, or the reverse, they took the last drink with the last stuff, to have courage to hit XXX) "depressant" does not make you "depressed".. 1 hour ago, dimreepr said: People who want to commit suicide, are afraid of pain not death... 🙄 People who respond to you are afraid of the image of your portfolio.. Edited May 27 by Sensei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exchemist Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 19 minutes ago, Sensei said: @exchemist Understandable. The myth found me (Google gave it). It is purely US issue. Here not existent. I know nobody who takes any opioids (legally or illegally).. ..but they are depressants.. i.e., they make a person less active, less agitated, sleepy.. etc. It is hard to commit suicide if you are drunk and almost sleeping, as long as you have no easy access to weapons (and bike/motor/car).. (You need the statistics of blood analysis of people who committed suicide, how many of them were under the influence of X, Y and Z...) Which opens yet another level of complexity - how many of drunk drivers/motorcyclists were actually suiciders-to-be.. "depressant" does not make you "depressed".. People who respond to you are afraid of the image of your portfolio.. Read the link. It suggests an association. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimreepr Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 20 hours ago, Sensei said: People who respond to you are afraid of the image of your portfolio.. They need only fear the avatar, when we're playing poker 20 hours ago, Sensei said: ..but they are depressants.. i.e., they make a person less active, less agitated, sleepy.. etc. It is hard to commit suicide if you are drunk and almost sleeping, as long as you have no easy access to weapons (and bike/motor/car).. (You need the statistics of blood analysis of people who committed suicide, how many of them were under the influence of X, Y and Z...) Which opens yet another level of complexity - how many of drunk drivers/motorcyclists were actually suiciders-to-be.., ("did they hit XXX (e.g. tree) and died because they were drunk/intoxicated, or the reverse, they took the last drink with the last stuff, to have courage to hit XXX) "depressant" does not make you "depressed".. It's not the drug they use, that's the issue, it's that they are taking them for a reason; and that reason is often depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael McMahon Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 On 5/27/2023 at 2:37 PM, dimreepr said: People who want to commit suicide, are afraid of pain not death... 🙄 Shooting to death those accused of cowardice in WW1’s British army exposes the ambiguity of suicide because any soldiers used as machine gun fodder without being given enough covering fire in WW1 are technically on a suicide mission relative to modern combat. Those who deserted their posts in WW1 might in retrospect have been influenced by having been abandoned by other troops as well rather than deserting by cowardice alone. Hence no matter how much people dislike or support suicide it’s all relative to a collective population that likely isn’t very ethical even if the collective is slightly ethical. So maybe humility in the context of suicide means not to love or hate the concept of suicide too much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engineeer Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 (edited) Every suicide could have been prevented if we could go wherever we wanted at any given time with the option of solidarity, and the right video and audio reinforcement, the right sensations, time can work miracles for an otherwise overly compartmentalized and competitive populace. The issue is that most all spacecraft need to stop and refuel, and are not fast enough to do so on limited fuel before being caught up with. The solution to this problem is out there, I assure you. I just, I just need more time. Please don't let them turn me into a "jerk". Edited November 14 by Engineeer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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