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War Games: Russia Takes Ukraine, China Takes Taiwan. US Response?


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A local general on the situation in Ukraine:

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Please remember that Russia has an excellent command of troop redeployment by rail. It could be two or three days and these troops will be in starting positions.

..So.. to prevent an attack, those in Russia (including those against their fellow mass-murderer V.P.), should "take care" of the rails..

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It seems they're sending in prisoners and other similar societal "undesirables" as the first wave from Russia to be followed by their more experienced soldiers and troops. They're using them as fodder to help clear the path for those following... whether on trains or otherwise. 

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3 hours ago, iNow said:

It seems they're sending in prisoners and other similar societal "undesirables" as the first wave from Russia to be followed by their more experienced soldiers and troops. They're using them as fodder to help clear the path for those following... whether on trains or otherwise. 

A prisoner of war captured by Ukrainian soldiers, who was a Russian prisoner who was sent to fight with/in Ukraine, said that in his group of 1,000 people, 20 survived, and he is one of the lucky ones..

 

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5 hours ago, Sensei said:

A prisoner of war captured by Ukrainian soldiers, who was a Russian prisoner who was sent to fight with/in Ukraine, said that in his group of 1,000 people, 20 survived, and he is one of the lucky ones..

 

Yeah, "throwing bodies" at the problem may have worked during WW2, but warfare has changed quite a bit since then.  Sending wave upon wave of troops makes no difference in the face of superior weaponry, positioning, tactics, etc.

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6 hours ago, Alex_Krycek said:

Yeah, "throwing bodies" at the problem may have worked during WW2, but warfare has changed quite a bit since then. Sending wave upon wave of troops makes no difference in the face of superior weaponry, positioning, tactics, etc.

Not really. It works if the leader doesn't care about the lives of the people of his country and has a large number of spare people.. Ammunition (of people on the front line of battle) is not infinite (just like people). Empty weapons and soldiers will surrender, die or retreat..

6 hours ago, Alex_Krycek said:

Sending wave upon wave of troops makes no difference in the face of superior weaponry, positioning, tactics, etc.

Superior weaponry requires years of training of soldiers.. Airplane pilots, helicopter pilots, rocket and missile battery operators.. They die within seconds, but a new one does not come so easily..

 

What is needed to make ammunition? e.g. NH4NO3

Therefore, the agricultural industry can easily be transformed into the production of ammunition for war.

It should be destroyed to stop them from producing ammunition.

https://www.google.com/search?q=russian+production+of+fertilizers+statistics
(lower availability of fertilizer also increases global food prices)

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16 hours ago, Sensei said:

Not really. It works if the leader doesn't care about the lives of the people of his country and has a large number of spare people.. Ammunition (of people on the front line of battle) is not infinite (just like people). Empty weapons and soldiers will surrender, die or retreat..

Then why hasn't it worked for Russia this far?

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3 hours ago, Alex_Krycek said:

Then why hasn't it worked for Russia this far?

Well, they got Soledar, for whatever that's worth (which isn't much). Ukraine has been pretty well supplied for the last few months though. Hopefully enough ammo to stay alive until the tanks get there.

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12 minutes ago, Lorentz Jr said:

Well, they got Soledar, for whatever that's worth (which isn't much). Ukraine has been pretty well supplied for the last few months though. Hopefully enough ammo to stay alive until the tanks get there.

Russia seems to be making baby steps even with their mobilized forces.  Then they get pushed back.  Only so many times they can do that before they run out of soldiers.  They need some sweeping, decisive gains pretty fast I think.

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1 minute ago, Alex_Krycek said:

Russia seems to be making baby steps even with their mobilized forces.  Then they get pushed back.  Only so many times they can do that before they run out of soldiers.  They need some sweeping, decisive gains pretty fast I think.

I have to agree. The Russian leadership is desperate for any kind of success that they can sell to the public politically, and I think they're sort of trying to bluff Ukraine with the new troops, trying to make them think they (Russia) have more troops than Ukraine can fend off. I don't think Russia will get much in the way of decisive gains though. They might get one or two more towns, something small, but their troops won't last long, and then Ukraine will have an easier time going on the attack again.

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5 hours ago, Lorentz Jr said:

Well, they got Soledar, for whatever that's worth (which isn't much). Ukraine has been pretty well supplied for the last few months though. Hopefully enough ammo to stay alive until the tanks get there.

Biden's promises are stretched out over time, so they are not real deliveries.

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15 hours ago, Alex_Krycek said:

Then why hasn't it worked for Russia this far?

It worked. They gave up attacking Kiev, Kharkov, Kherson because of inability to deliver ammunition fast enough..

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As the Special Operation (AKA war) approaches the one year mark it's interesting how both Putin and Prigozhin are indulging themselves in their to each unique combination of lies and "see what you made me do" blame of others for their mistakes and incompetence.

It would be hilarious if not so tragic for both Ukrainians and the Russians they are responsible for.

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10 minutes ago, J.C.MacSwell said:

As the Special Operation (AKA war) approaches the one year mark it's interesting how both Putin and Prigozhin are indulging themselves in their to each unique combination of lies and "see what you made me do" blame of others for their mistakes and incompetence.

It would be hilarious if not so tragic for both Ukrainians and the Russians they are responsible for.

The witterings of the defeated seeing the writing on the wall.

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3 minutes ago, StringJunky said:

But they do care about getting the credit and Prighozin is whining the regular army is stealing his glory.

I meant sociopaths and psychopaths don't care about the casualties of their actions..

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5 minutes ago, Sensei said:

I meant sociopaths and psychopaths don't care about the casualties of their actions..

Sociopath and psychopath are both used to refer to what's clinically known as ASPD, or antisocial personality disorder.  What's disturbing is that the horrible things that happen in war are mostly done by ordinary people who are not in the 1-2% of the population estimated to have ASPD.  Plain old human nature, conditioned in a certain way, can wreak atrocities.

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23 minutes ago, Sensei said:

I meant sociopaths and psychopaths don't care about the casualties of their actions..

Right, ok.

16 minutes ago, TheVat said:

 

Sociopath and psychopath are both used to refer to what's clinically known as ASPD, or antisocial personality disorder.  What's disturbing is that the horrible things that happen in war are mostly done by ordinary people who are not in the 1-2% of the population estimated to have ASPD.  Plain old human nature, conditioned in a certain way, can wreak atrocities.

It looks like to me that's what happens if you haven't been trained to fight and just given weapons, then thrown in the deep end.

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1 hour ago, TheVat said:

Plain old human nature, conditioned in a certain way, can wreak atrocities.

Once you've convinced people to believe in absurdities it's not hard getting them next to commit atrocities. 

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