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Revert back to red/black coloured cabling for BS1363


Erina
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Revert back to red/black coloured cabling for BS1363  

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  1. 1. Would it be safer to revert back to red/black wiring for the standard BS1363 plug ?

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For myself I never understood the relationship of Brown and Blue wires in the BS1363 plug, which Britain adopted from the EU standard.

It may cost money, may also infuriate some, but I feel that Red for live, and Black for neutral makes more sense.

Would it not make more sense to switch back to those colours, is it not more instinctive ?

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30 minutes ago, Erina said:

For myself I never understood the relationship of Brown and Blue wires in the BS1363 plug, which Britain adopted from the EU standard.

It may cost money, may also infuriate some, but I feel that Red for live, and Black for neutral makes more sense.

Would it not make more sense to switch back to those colours, is it not more instinctive ?

Reading online seems like chosen to harmonize for safety purposes and that those particular colors were selected due to color blindness concerns.

Could still do it of course. Think UK plugs are already unique with the fuses so may not be that big a deal in terms of cost/Market size.

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1 minute ago, Endy0816 said:

Reading online seems like chosen to harmonize for safety purposes and that those particular colors were selected due to color blindness concerns.

Could still do it of course. Think UK plugs are already unique with the fuses so may not be that big a deal in terms of cost/Market size.

Yes there were accidents due to red green colour blindness mixing up the earth and the line.  +1 for the colour blindness issue.

The opportunity was taken to harmonise with the european dirty blue and dirty red/brown when the first change was made.

Pity because it had to be changed again when yellow stripes were added to earth.

Of course the American colour convention is quite different, as is their wiring layout.

 

 

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1 minute ago, studiot said:

Yes there were accidents due to red green colour blindness mixing up the earth and the line.  +1 for the colour blindness issue.

The opportunity was taken to harmonise with the european dirty blue and dirty red/brown when the first change was made.

Pity because it had to be changed again when yellow stripes were added to earth.

Of course the American colour convention is quite different, as is their wiring layout.

Thanks. Yeah, neither red or black is safe here lol. Personally favor worlwide harmonizing based on best practices though would mean introducing many major changes.

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1 minute ago, Endy0816 said:

Thanks. Yeah, neither red or black is safe here lol. Personally favor worlwide harmonizing based on best practices though would mean introducing many major changes.

One of the issues we faced is that new wiring, even if extending or replacing existing, has to be to the new colour code.
 

This is all fine and dandy if all the wiring is new

but

it also means you can have dirty brown connecting onto red, blue connecting onto black and green/yellow connecting on to green.

Not ideal.

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1 hour ago, studiot said:

One of the issues we faced is that new wiring, even if extending or replacing existing, has to be to the new colour code.
 

This is all fine and dandy if all the wiring is new

but

it also means you can have dirty brown connecting onto red, blue connecting onto black and green/yellow connecting on to green.

Not ideal.

I guess I think of it like buying something outright vs renting forever. Initial cost is rough, but eventually you are over the hump.

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Hey, no one voted in the poll !

What about red and white, both instinctively lean toward their use i.e. red is always live, and white is neutral (like between the Irish flag).

There doesn't seem to be a conflict between the two colours. If completely colour blind then I don't think it wise to fit plugs in the first place, but even then, a vertical length wards stripe along the live would give further differentiation.

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