Bond777 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Why feelings and emotions are better for survival than instincts (like in lower animals)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Bond777 said: Why feelings and emotions are better for survival than instincts (like in lower animals)? ! Moderator Note Please provide evidence that this premise is true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bond777 Posted May 13, 2021 Author Share Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bond777 said: Why feelings and emotions are better for survival (if they are) than instincts (like in lower animals)? If not, then how the Darvinists explain evolution from instincts to emotions? If advanced A. I. will be developed someday, will it need the feelings for survival and self-protection necessarily? Edited May 13, 2021 by Phi for All fixed quote box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phi for All Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 58 minutes ago, Bond777 said: If not, then how the Darvinists explain evolution from instincts to emotions? What are the differences? Don't you think human emotion has something to do with increased intelligence? It's often argued that instincts would only hamper a really smart person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNow Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Animals also have emotions so this fails no matter how you view it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bond777 Posted May 13, 2021 Author Share Posted May 13, 2021 17 minutes ago, iNow said: Animals also have emotions so this fails no matter how you view it Even fish and insects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNow Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Maybe. We don’t yet know, but it’s moot anyway. Neither fish nor insects are generally classified as animals. Thanks for playing, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zapatos Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 7 hours ago, Bond777 said: If not, then how the Darvinists explain evolution from instincts to emotions? If advanced A. I. will be developed someday, will it need the feelings for survival and self-protection necessarily? Are you saying humans have no instincts? Does someone teach a baby how to suckle? And please don't call people Darwinists. It is a pejorative term used by people to belittle those who accept Evolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNow Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, zapatos said: And please don't call people Darwinists. It is a pejorative term used by people to belittle those who accept Evolution. I dunno. I kinda appreciate being able to so easily tell when I’m interacting with a deluded paste eater who STILL after all these decades continues rejecting the absurdly obvious truth of evolution by natural selection. It keeps things more authentic and efficient that way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zapatos Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 1 minute ago, iNow said: I dunno. I kinda appreciate being able to so easily tell when I’m interacting with a deluded paste eater who STILL after all these decades continues rejecting the absurdly obvious truth of evolution by natural selection. It keeps things more authentic and efficient that way. Hmm. Good point. It really does a good job of identifying them even though they are using the term to identify us. +1 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bond777 Posted May 14, 2021 Author Share Posted May 14, 2021 My question was rather a philosophical one. The feelings and emotions are about subjective experience. But is subjective experience really necessary for a creature to react to surrounding environment in order to survive in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 16 hours ago, Bond777 said: If not, then how the Darvinists explain evolution from instincts to emotions? If advanced A. I. will be developed someday, will it need the feelings for survival and self-protection necessarily? ! Moderator Note It's not either-or You have posted an unsupported premise, made a false dichotomy, and the "Darvinist" (sic) comment has a hint of an agenda. Quote My question was rather a philosophical one. ! Moderator Note This was posted in evolution. So, as this is a minor disaster as a science discussion, I'm locking it. You may repost a question in philosophy, but do better with the framing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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