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52 minutes ago, J.C.MacSwell said:

Can we breath a sigh of relief yet? 

I'm genuinely relieved that the inauguration proceeded without bloodshed

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I think the problem is that Trump is very much a Republican. For many in the GOP, he only just now crossed the line with sedition and insurrection (and for others, he hasn’t crossed it yet. Elected of

In the thread I started, 'Canadian Protests', in Feb 2020, where no actual violence occurred because police chose not to enforce the law, and allowed unlawful behaviour for months, your reply was

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1 hour ago, iNow said:

I'm genuinely relieved that the inauguration proceeded without bloodshed

I agree...but the crazies are still out there and their leader has clearly not abdicated with his threats of a Republican alternative "Patriots Party"...which may not be such a bad thing if it will dilute or divide the political party that has done the most harm to our nation in recent history. 

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13 minutes ago, DrmDoc said:

I agree...but the crazies are still out there and their leader has clearly not abdicated with his threats of a Republican alternative "Patriots Party"...which may not be such a bad thing if it will dilute or divide the political party that has done the most harm to our nation in recent history. 

With McConnell saying he thinks he's guilty of provoking insurrection may mean there is sufficient support to prevent Trump ever taking public office again.Let us note that it is only  some of  the actors of this current Republican administration that caused the problems. Any ruling party needs an effective opposition as a counterweight, or ahead lies tyranny... and that includes the Democrats.

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4 minutes ago, StringJunky said:

With McConnell saying he thinks he's guilty of provoking insurrection may mean there is sufficient support to prevent Trump ever taking public again.Let us note that it is only the some of  the actors of this current Republican administration that caused the problems. Any ruling party needs an effective opposition, or there lies tyranny.

I agree but I think Trump's threat is likely a veiled flexing of his potential political muscle against those Republicans who might support some future punitive action for his clearly seditious efforts against Biden's presidential confirmation.  

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3 hours ago, iNow said:

I'm genuinely relieved that the inauguration proceeded without bloodshed

I can now shift my concern to the likelihood that all the vending machines at work will have been emptied by national guard folks 

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2 hours ago, swansont said:

I can now shift my concern to the likelihood that all the vending machines at work will have been emptied by national guard folks 

You could ask the nice lady who just moved in to the big house across the grounds for a cookie....

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8 hours ago, J.C.MacSwell said:

Can we breath a sigh of relief yet?

I thought it was just me.
The air does smell fresher today, doesn't it ?

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19 minutes ago, MigL said:

I thought it was just me.
The air does smell fresher today, doesn't it ?

Don’t worry. It’ll pass. #killjoy

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15 hours ago, DrmDoc said:

not be such a bad thing if it will dilute or divide the political party that has done the most harm to our nation in recent history. 

Recent... as in since the Civil War, or what?

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43 minutes ago, John Cuthber said:

Recent... as in since the Civil War, or what?

Recent...as in the history made on the steps and in the houses of Congress just a few short weeks ago. It was a insurrection fostered by a false narrative propagated by Republican leadership in both the Legislative and Executive branches of our nation's government.

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10 hours ago, MigL said:

I thought it was just me.
The air does smell fresher today, doesn't it ?

I have to stop binge watching "The Twighlight Zone" before going to bed. You'll never guess who I dreamt was President the last four years.

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17 minutes ago, J.C.MacSwell said:

I have to stop binge watching "The Twighlight Zone" before going to bed. You'll never guess who I dreamt was President the last four years.

Cheney?

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36 minutes ago, geordief said:

Cheney?

D Cheney has had a political career spanning over 40 years, like J Biden.
He was everyone's favorite whipping boy during the G W Bush Presidency, for having too much power as VP, and pulling the strings of his 'marionette' President.

Then along comes D Trump, his VP M Pence, and a good portion of the Republican party, to make G W Bush and D Chaney look like eloquent and stable statesmen in comparison.
Who'd have thunk it ...

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3 minutes ago, dimreepr said:

Is it possible that we're talking about different people?

It has yet to be substantiated that he was "really" in J.C.MacSwell's dream. This may be premature speculation but my "Cheney" was the MigL version.

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36 minutes ago, geordief said:

It has yet to be substantiated that he was "really" in J.C.MacSwell's dream. This may be premature speculation but my "Cheney" was the MigL version.

I can only imagine that

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20 hours ago, DrmDoc said:

I agree but I think Trump's threat is likely a veiled flexing of his potential political muscle against those Republicans who might support some future punitive action for his clearly seditious efforts against Biden's presidential confirmation.  

But anyone in the Republican party who really understands Trump also knows that Trump would expect to be the major candidate for that new party.  If you strip him of the ability to run for federal office again, you would remove his interest in forming the new party.  

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