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Race Vs Racism Vs Evolution

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Hi 2 all non-fool[open-minded] people.


We proved that we aren't allowed deny any saying while we haven't had any source/reason for our denying

Source/Reason = Experience or Knowledge/Study

Otherwise we aren't anything but the fool!



We have a narration about Races in the Torah and we aren't allowed deny that while research and find any opposing source against that!



20 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:
21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.
24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
26 And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.


But we researched and found an opposing source!




By authentic traditions, it is related from ‘Abd al-‘Azim that Imam ‘Ali al-Naqi said that Nuh lived for two thousand five hundred years. One day while he was sleeping on the Ark, a strong wind blew and uncovered him. Ham and Yafith saw this and started laughing. Sam scolded them and covered Nuh. Nuh woke up and saw the two of them laughing and inquired the reason for that. Sam narrated what had happened. Nuh raised his hands towards the heavens and said, “O God, change the seed of Ham and al-Yasa‘ so that they beget dark-skinned children.” Nuh told them: “God has made your[both] children the slaves of the children of Sam because he did good to me. You both are disinherited and your disinheritance will manifest itself in your children and the signs of notoriety will remain distinguishable in the progeny of Sam until the time the world will last. Therefore, all dark-skinned people are children of Ham and all the Turks, Saqalebeh[Slavs], Gog and Magog are the descendants of Yafith. And others the rest are from Sam[Shem].

And this tells us:


1. All Blacks of the earth


1. Gog

2. Magog

3. Slavs

4. Turks

5. Chineses


1. Jews

2. Arabs

3. Persians

4. Germans

5. Japanese

6. Koreans

7. Everybody but Hamitics and Japhethic....



Our discussion here will be about difference between Knowledge of Races and Racism!


In my analysis/researches/experiences the Race is a start point and it's not insurance for being a good person!

Exactly such as a group of cars that match for a rally,

We all know that the cars of Germany, Italy, Japan, USA are the better than those of Korea, France, England... and these are better than those of Turkey, China... etc...

But it's the Driver that makes a car Champion!

For the same reason we know some people are from the better races and their morality will be lesser than some people who are from the worst races! But according to my own experience, those weak races mostly have very lower IQs than those greaters as you see in their Technologies/Advanced






...if you knew the body of humans how have been created, then you wouldn't condemn anybody! God Has CreatED for the human 40 attributes that each one of them has 10 attributes that each one of them has 1000 attributes! And God Gave someone a few of them, some a bit the more, some abit the more and more up to a bit of people that are us, completely of them! And God ExpectS anyone depending on his own position! And will punish anyone depending on his/her position.


Do you have any opposing source?


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You have threads like this open in Religion and in Philosophy. Religious topic have NO PLACE in mainstream science sections like Evolution, Morphology, and Exobiology. If it has anything to do with religion or religious writings, keep it in the proper section, please.

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