bryozoa Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Humanity is an aggressive species competing for living space. What I find even more offensive than war is the justification the victors often make for intiating war in the first place. Case in point being WWII. National Socialism and by default the entire German people were culpable for a war they didn't want with the Allies'. The Allied strategic carpet bombing of German cities and railroads necessitied the fabrication of reports of German atrocities to deflect attention away from the hardship and chaos the Allies' themselves had caused throughout Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area54 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 32 minutes ago, bryozoa said: Humanity is an aggressive species competing for living space. That observation is simplistic to the point of error. It would be more accurate to state that humanity is a species that has prospered through a crude balance between aggression and cooperation. Competition can be for natural resources, mates, power, etc any, or all of which may, at times, though not always, equate to living space. 32 minutes ago, bryozoa said: What I find even more offensive than war is the justification the victors often make for intiating war in the first place. Case in point being WWII. What do you understand to be the justification for WWII? Why do you ignore the separate reasons/justifications for the Pacific war? 38 minutes ago, bryozoa said: National Socialism and by default the entire German people were culpable for a war they didn't want with the Allies' I'm not clear how you are tying this assertion (German culpability) into an "offensive justification by the victors". 41 minutes ago, bryozoa said: The Allied strategic carpet bombing of German cities and railroads necessitied the fabrication of reports of German atrocities to deflect attention away from the hardship and chaos the Allies' themselves had caused throughout Europe. Which reports of German atrocities do you believe were fabricated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryozoa Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Area54 said: That observation is simplistic to the point of error. It would be more accurate to state that humanity is a species that has prospered through a crude balance between aggression and cooperation. Competition can be for natural resources, mates, power, etc any, or all of which may, at times, though not always, equate to living space. What do you understand to be the justification for WWII? Why do you ignore the separate reasons/justifications for the Pacific war? I'm not clear how you are tying this assertion (German culpability) into an "offensive justification by the victors". Which reports of German atrocities do you believe were fabricated? WWII was a contractual war which Nazi Germany was antagonized into due to the calculated violence directed toward ethnic Germans in the autonomous city state of Danzig. This gave Great Britain Casus belli to use force against Germany and intiate a fratricidal war which Hitler didn't want. History is written by the winners and Allied propaganda is still as effective today as it was over seventy years ago. As for which german atrocities I believe to be fabriciated, I don't see why I should spell it out for you but surely you can guess? All I will say is, mundane delousing technology employed to counter a wave of typhus b in German labour camps has been transmogrified into atrocity propaganda that has almost become a secular religion. Edited June 5, 2020 by bryozoa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 ! Moderator Note And, just no Do not bring this up again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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