Moontanman Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 The engineering that goes into this aircraft is amazing! I've never seen anything fly like this other than a frisbee! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiot Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) Hi Moon , have you been reading Stephen Coonts again? https://www.google.co.uk/search?source=hp&ei=KiSWXY6sBsT3kwWe5YjgBw&q=stephen+counts+saucer&oq=stephen+counts+saucer&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i13l3j0i13i30l3.1016.10036..11042...0.0..0.1034.6056.5j5j4j3j1j1j1j1......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i131j0j0i3j0i22i30j0i22i10i30j33i160j33i21.NM1pFHYAfQg&ved=0ahUKEwiO6c3Kw4DlAhXE-6QKHZ4yAnwQ4dUDCAc&uact=5 Edited October 3, 2019 by studiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moontanman Posted October 3, 2019 Author Share Posted October 3, 2019 5 hours ago, studiot said: Hi Moon , have you been reading Stephen Coonts again? https://www.google.co.uk/search?source=hp&ei=KiSWXY6sBsT3kwWe5YjgBw&q=stephen+counts+saucer&oq=stephen+counts+saucer&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i13l3j0i13i30l3.1016.10036..11042...0.0..0.1034.6056.5j5j4j3j1j1j1j1......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i131j0j0i3j0i22i30j0i22i10i30j33i160j33i21.NM1pFHYAfQg&ved=0ahUKEwiO6c3Kw4DlAhXE-6QKHZ4yAnwQ4dUDCAc&uact=5 I've read some of his stuff, he is a hack, but the flying frisbee seems to represent a scary possibility... Or even a couple of them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.C.MacSwell Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) Interesting, but what's with the no stagnation point claim? It also has a pretty poor aspect ratio, so claims of efficiency are dubious. Pretty cool maneuverability though it is a small model. Looks like the proverbial UFO. Edited October 4, 2019 by J.C.MacSwell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moontanman Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, J.C.MacSwell said: Interesting, but what's with the no stagnation point claim? It also has a pretty poor aspect ratio, so claims of efficiency are dubious. Pretty cool maneuverability though it is a small model. Looks like the proverbial UFO. I honestly didn't mean for this to be compared to a UFO, since this is identified, and I know the title said Flying Saucer but this is about as close to a actual flying "Saucer" I have ever seen. The flying ability was what really caught my eye, I've seen lots of round flying machines but they never performed anything close to this! The US Air Force tried to develop a saucer shaped craft and failed miserably. A bit more development and this would a fiercely dangerous flying machine eve if it was a drone. Hard to shoot down something that can move like that. The wind tunnel tests were impressive to me but I didn't really know any better... Now having said that I have noticed it does seem to tend to move like flying saucers have been said to move in a falling leaf like motion when descending. Just a coincidence I am sure but still wild. If a real full size version of this was developed I think it would give modern fighter jets a run for their money... Ohyeah, did you notice the internal rotating part that serves as a gyroscope to stabilize it? I have been told a hundred times that not matter what spin seems to do for a frisbee it wouldn't have that effect on a flaying disc... I'm surprised it didn't have counter rotating parts... Edited October 4, 2019 by Moontanman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.C.MacSwell Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Moontanman said: I honestly didn't mean for this to be compared to a UFO, since this is identified, and I know the title said Flying Saucer but this is about as close to a actual flying "Saucer" I have ever seen. The flying ability was what really caught my eye, I've seen lots of round flying machines but they never performed anything close to this! The US Air Force tried to develop a saucer shaped craft and failed miserably. A bit more development and this would a fiercely dangerous flying machine eve if it was a drone. Hard to shoot down something that can move like that. The wind tunnel tests were impressive to me but I didn't really know any better... Now having said that I have noticed it does seem to tend to move like flying saucers have been said to move in a falling leaf like motion when descending. Just a coincidence I am sure but still wild. If a real full size version of this was developed I think it would give modern fighter jets a run for their money... Don't forget the cube square law as it relates to this model. The lift goes up with squaring of the scale but the weight, which tends with volume when it does well, goes with getting cubed. So a full size version won't respond the same way...you would have to fast forward the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moontanman Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 1 minute ago, J.C.MacSwell said: Don't forget the cube square law as it relates to this model. The lift goes up with squaring of the scale but the weight, which tends with volume when it does well, goes with getting cubed. So a full size version won't respond the same way...you would have to fast forward the video. I was wondering if the cube square law would screw up a full sized version but even as a small drone it is still impressive. Have you seen those coordinated drone shows they put on it china recently? They were beautiful but when you thought of them in a military way they were ominous... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.C.MacSwell Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Moontanman said: I was wondering if the cube square law would screw up a full sized version but even as a small drone it is still impressive. Have you seen those coordinated drone shows they put on it china recently? They were beautiful but when you thought of them in a military way they were ominous... I haven't. Got a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moontanman Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, J.C.MacSwell said: I haven't. Got a link? 3 minutes ago, J.C.MacSwell said: I haven't. Got a link? Another one in Sacramento! Edited October 4, 2019 by Moontanman oops 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.C.MacSwell Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 That's awesome Moon! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moontanman Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 Just now, J.C.MacSwell said: That's awesome Moon! Sorry about the moose berries, that was an oopsie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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