Teleportation vs time travel

[fredreload]

Teleportation vs time travel both requires the manipulation of space time. Teleportation is like going through space time where time travel is like falling through space time(going in between space time). Is this analogy correct? Or is there other scientific resources relating to this?

[Bufofrog]

Since that is science fiction you can make up any analogy that you want, it is your tale.

Edited August 25, 2019 by Bufofrog

[dimreepr]

1 hour ago, fredreload said:

Teleportation vs time travel both requires the manipulation of space time. Teleportation is like going through space time where time travel is like falling through space time(going in between space time). Is this analogy correct? Or is there other scientific resources relating to this?

Teleportation would be at C and time travel requires faster than C, so magic vs magic, so "Is this analogy correct?" no.

 

[swansont]

3 hours ago, dimreepr said:

Teleportation would be at C and time travel requires faster than C

If it’s sci-fi you can’t conclude that. I could decree that time travel requires 88 mph

[Art Man]

13 hours ago, fredreload said:

Teleportation vs time travel both requires the manipulation of space time. Teleportation is like going through space time where time travel is like falling through space time(going in between space time). Is this analogy correct? Or is there other scientific resources relating to this?

Teleportation as modern scientists can perform it right now works more like a fax machine than moving particular matter to a new location without crossing space. If modern scientists could teleport you, which they can't, your body would be destroyed and a copy of you would appear at the target location. They can teleport single atoms at this time and it works more like a telephone that rearranges matter than it does moving the actual same atom to a new location. To be able to teleport you with the modern scientific model the same matter that your body is made of would need to exist at the target location so that it could be reorganized to copy you. 

Perhaps when science advances to a greater understanding they would be able to teleport a person without destroying them but right now that doesn't appear likely. Point is that teleportation as science can now perform it is based in quantum entanglement and information transfer with no space traveled between sender and reciever, making it the most secure form of messaging because it can't be intercepted.

This all means that teleportation is more the manipulation of quantum entanglement and physical information than it is the manipulation of space and time. Since teleportation is instant there is no time to manipulate.

Time travel is understood as the relative motion of two objects as they exist separately under differing physical circumstances. (or more than two people or objects) Key factors in time travel are speed, distance/space and forces of gravity. Gravity warps space and time is observed as the passing through space at a determined meter or measure. Speed has the same effect on the observer or the object in motion as the effect of gravity in that they can both be measured and observed to warp the passing of time to an equal measure. You can combine speed and gravity and increase the effect on the passing of time to a greater factor than one or the other on its own. Whether a human body can survive the stresses of these forces so that time travel is possible for them has yet to be proven or disproven except in the case of miniscule differentiations like that observed with the ISS occupants.

Edited August 26, 2019 by Art Man

[Mordred]

Quantum entanglement doesn't allow FTL communication. In point of detail quantum communication involves encryption not because the message bypasses space time but because of the correlation functions of the prepared message which the receiver would require via normal communication means to decrypt. If I have an apple and an orange placed one in each bag then give you a bag without knowing which bag contains the apple or orange. Once you open your bag I would know what is in my bag without opening it. Entanglement is much the same you prepare the entangled states by the process that causes the entanglement. That is the prepared states, you don't know which states are which until you measure it but your probability choices of possible states are determined by the particles possible states and the method of preparedness. This probability with the detection apparatus forms the correlation function of the entangled particles. So like the bag of oranges and apples once you measure one particle you know the other particles state. No communication is required for that. Nor is there any hidden variables nor action needed. {action has specific meaning in physics}

[swansont]

8 hours ago, Art Man said:

Since teleportation is instant there is no time to manipulate.

No, you have to transmit the information, so it's limited to being no faster than c.