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Why do they not test high emotional IQ in school?

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Why do schools not test for high emotional IQ.

A high emotional IQ is bad.

A high emotional IQ can lead to crime and killing becuase the person is too emotional and fines he or she cannot control his or her emotional outpust. Say your girlfread left you or you lost your job some one may feel sad or angry where people that score high on emotional IQ have a outpust and cannot control them self thus can lead to crime, killing or assault.

Can lead to unpretective sex thus could get HIV, sleeping around with 10 people a day, and robbery, assault and break ins so on.

 People with high emotional IQ have harder time in school and drop out of school more and get stress out easy becuase they have very hard time with their emotions.

They get stress out easy and do not do well with lot of work. They are too emotional.

 

 

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I cannot see how any of the above statements logically follow from the definition of Emotional Intelligence.  Maybe I have the wrong definition??

According to Wikipedia:  Emotional intelligence (EI), emotional leadership (EL), emotional quotient (EQ) and emotional intelligence quotient (EIQ), is the capability of individuals to recognize their own emotions and those of others, discern between different feelings and label them appropriately, use emotional information to guide thinking ...

Emotional intelligence - Wikipedia

 

It seems to me that a high capability to recognize ones own emotions and discern the emotions of others would be very beneficial to relationships.

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5 hours ago, nec209 said:

A high emotional IQ can lead to crime and killing becuase the person is too emotional and fines he or she cannot control his or her emotional outpust. Say your girlfread left you or you lost your job some one may feel sad or angry where people that score high on emotional IQ have a outpust and cannot control them self thus can lead to crime, killing or assault.

Can lead to unpretective sex thus could get HIV, sleeping around with 10 people a day, and robbery, assault and break ins so on.

 People with high emotional IQ have harder time in school and drop out of school more and get stress out easy becuase they have very hard time with their emotions.

They get stress out easy and do not do well with lot of work. They are too emotional.

Where did you get that information? It really conflicts the actual science results. Studies have shown that people with LOWER EIQ have higher chance of being involved in bullying, are less likely to have good leadership qualities and are more likely to develop drug and alcohol dependence. 

On the sideways topic, I'm more interested as to why do we still use normal IQ test at schools.

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2 minutes ago, pavelcherepan said:

why do we still use normal IQ test at schools.

Where do you think this is happening? Pretty certain it’s not, but can’t comment on other nations. 

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1 hour ago, iNow said:

Where do you think this is happening? Pretty certain it’s not, but can’t comment on other nations. 

I wasn't sure about US but I'm certain that in some countries they still do.

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Which ones and how?

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10 hours ago, nec209 said:

A high emotional IQ can lead to crime and killing

Citation needed

10 hours ago, nec209 said:

Why do schools not test for high emotional IQ.

Perhaps because it has no scientific basis

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20 hours ago, OldChemE said:

I cannot see how any of the above statements logically follow from the definition of Emotional Intelligence.  Maybe I have the wrong definition??

According to Wikipedia:  Emotional intelligence (EI), emotional leadership (EL), emotional quotient (EQ) and emotional intelligence quotient (EIQ), is the capability of individuals to recognize their own emotions and those of others, discern between different feelings and label them appropriately, use emotional information to guide thinking ...

Emotional intelligence - Wikipedia

 

It seems to me that a high capability to recognize ones own emotions and discern the emotions of others would be very beneficial to relationships.

I'm not sure what you mean? Are you saying people that score low on emotional IQ have hard time controlling his or her own emotions where by people that score high on emotional IQ can control his or own emotions better?

People are more emotional when they score low on emotional IQ and less emotional and when they score high on emotional IQ?

 

 

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7 hours ago, nec209 said:

I'm not sure what you mean? Are you saying people that score low on emotional IQ have hard time controlling his or her own emotions where by people that score high on emotional IQ can control his or own emotions better?

It says that people with high EQ can recognise emotions. It says nothing about controlling them. That appears to be your invention. 

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8 hours ago, Strange said:

It says that people with high EQ can recognise emotions. It says nothing about controlling them. That appears to be your invention. 

It's to do with empathy.

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10 hours ago, Strange said:

It says that people with high EQ can recognise emotions. It says nothing about controlling them. That appears to be your invention. 

Highly Emotionally Intelligent People are better able to Recognize and Master(control) their emotions, Strange.

    https://www.talentsmart.com/articles/9-Habits-of-Highly-Emotionally-Intelligent-People-2147446657-p-1.html

   " 

When emotional intelligence first appeared to the masses, it served as the missing link in a peculiar finding: people with average IQs outperform those with the highest IQs 70% of the time. This anomaly threw a massive wrench into what many people had always assumed was the sole source of success—IQ. Decades of research now point to emotional intelligence as the critical factor that sets star performers apart from the rest of the pack.

How much of an impact does emotional intelligence (EQ) have on your professional success? The short answer is: a lot! It’s a powerful way to focus your energy in one direction with a tremendous result. Of all the people we’ve studied at work, we’ve found that 90% of top performers have high EQs. You can be a top performer without emotional intelligence, but the chances are slim.

Emotional intelligence is the “something” in each of us that is a bit intangible. It affects how we manage behavior, navigate social complexities, and make personal decisions that achieve positive results. Emotional intelligence is made up of four core skills that pair up under two primary competencies: personal competence and social competence.

About Emotional Intelligence

Personal competence comprises your self-awareness and self-management skills, which focus more on you individually than on your interactions with other people. Personal competence is your ability to stay aware of your emotions and manage your behavior and tendencies.

  1. Self-Awareness is your ability to accurately perceive your emotions and stay aware of them as they happen.
  2. Self-Management is your ability to use awareness of your emotions to stay flexible and positively direct your behavior.

Social competence is made up of your social awareness and relationship management skills; social competence is your ability to understand other people’s moods, behavior, and motives in order to respond effectively and improve the quality of your relationships.

  1. Social Awareness is your ability to accurately pick up on emotions in other people and understand what is really going on.
  2. Relationship Management is your ability to use awareness of your emotions and the others’ emotions to manage interactions successfully.

Despite the significance of emotional intelligence, its intangible nature makes it very difficult to know which behaviors you should emulate. So I’ve analyzed the data from the million-plus people TalentSmart has tested in order to identify the habits that set high-EQ people apart.

      -----------

2. They have a robust emotional vocabulary. All people experience emotions, but it is a select few who can accurately identify them as they occur. Our research shows that only 36% of people can do this, which is problematic because unlabeled emotions often go misunderstood, which leads to irrational choices and counterproductive actions. People with high EQs master their emotions because they understand them, and they use an extensive vocabulary of feelings to do so. While many people might describe themselves as simply feeling “bad,” emotionally intelligent people can pinpoint whether they feel “irritable,” “frustrated,” “downtrodden,” or “anxious.” The more specific your word choice, the better insight you have into exactly how you are feeling, what caused it, and what you should do about it. "

On 6/15/2019 at 5:41 PM, nec209 said:

A high emotional IQ is bad.

  Not sure where you got that idea. Below are a few Links that you may want to check out if you really want to understand Emotional Intelligence 

https://www.success.com/18-signs-you-have-high-emotional-intelligence/

https://www.inc.com/john-rampton/10-qualities-of-people-with-high-emotional-intelligence.html

https://www.inc.com/justin-bariso/13-things-emotionally-intelligent-people-do.html

    ...and the one I quoted :

https://www.talentsmart.com/articles/9-Habits-of-Highly-Emotionally-Intelligent-People-2147446657-p-1.html

You might possibly have confused something else with a High Emotional IQ, because a High Emotional IQ seems to be more of a benefit than any kind of hindrance.

Edited by et pet

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I think that what you are interested in is anger management, not emotional IQ.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anger_management

"Understanding one's own emotions can be a crucial piece of learning how to deal with anger. Children who wrote down their negative emotions in an "anger diary" actually ended up improving their emotional understanding, which in turn led to less aggression. When it comes to dealing with their emotions, children show the ability to learn best by seeing direct examples of instances that led to certain levels of anger. By seeing the reasons why they got angry, they can in the future try to avoid those actions or be prepared for the feeling they experience if they do find themselves doing something that typically results in them being angry.[19]

There is not sufficient evidence of this needing to be implemented in elementary schools, but this activity is a common tool used in therapies, so it could lead to children writing down their negative feelings and anger and help them to re-evaluate their position and take personal time to cool down instead of lashing out and doing aggressive actions in person."

 

So maybe instead of regular punishment of kid for misbehaving the first should be lesson about anger management. For a start reading of Wikipedia page about anger management. It'll maybe enlighten kid who is easily losing control to notice why and in what circumstances it happens. The next time kid is losing control, will remind content of the article.

 

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43 minutes ago, et pet said:

Highly Emotionally Intelligent People are better able to Recognize and Master(control) their emotions, Strange.

    https://www.talentsmart.com/articles/9-Habits-of-Highly-Emotionally-Intelligent-People-2147446657-p-1.html

I am not too surprised. In fact, the Wikipedia page referenced by OldChemE goes on to say something similar.

 

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On 6/17/2019 at 1:08 AM, Strange said:

It says that people with high EQ can recognise emotions. It says nothing about controlling them. That appears to be your invention. 

People who are very emotional and have hard time controlling emotions, impulse and desires so on. Example some one who got fired from work and got so mad he or she  assaulted the boss. Some one who has gone shopping and have no money and cannot control the urge to steal. Some one cannot control impulse and desires and sleep with 10 people a day and increase risk of HIV and some one who cannot control emotions and yell and scream.

Some people are better at controlling emotions, impulse and desires than other people. Why is that?

If people who score really really low on emotional IQ and this has nothing to do with controlling emotions, impulse and desires than what is it?

Why do some people like to link IQ  with crime and impulse and desires control problem? Unless this is some other IQ thing that has nothing to do with low emotional IQ?

 

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