Royston Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 Please take a look at the following link... http://www.news.com.au/story/0%2C10117%2C15891104-13762%2C00.html Why do they want to know if human brain cells will make a monkey self aware ? I can't really see the advantages in the experiment other than to make PG Tips rethink their ad campaign. What do you think, is this immoral, or can anyone see the benefits of this type of experiment outweighing the ethical implications ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atinymonkey Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 - Well Tarquin, I found that Bollinger rather flat. I say, shall we enslave humanity this afternoon, or stroll down to Grouchos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daecon Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 What, and let all those condemned prisoners go to waste while waiting for their execution? Talk about poor resource management! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royston Posted July 28, 2005 Author Share Posted July 28, 2005 Does nobody care about the poor monkeys, they have feelings too...or they will have. wea wea wea wea (Amityville violin screech). Can anybody tell me the real benefits of this research, and if so does it justify creating and testing on a self aware subject ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkkazier Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 Why do i get the feelign this is how Planet of the Apes started out... On a serious note, i don't see how running tests on a self aware creature can ever be good, no matter the benefits. their has to be another way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royston Posted July 29, 2005 Author Share Posted July 29, 2005 I know it's possible to do product testing...pharmaceuticals / cosmetics et.c I heard a few people participated at my friends uni when they were broke. I think you get paid a hell of a lot for necking a pill and lying in bed for a few days while they see if there are any immediate side effects. I guess if it's a matter of choice then it seems more ethical...however the monkey's concerned certainly have no choice with the tests they'll be subjected to...albeit whether they're harmful or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucidDreamer Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 I won't comment on whether this is ethical or not but I think the research is suppose to give us insight into how sentience and human intelligence developed and how it is created in the human brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royston Posted July 29, 2005 Author Share Posted July 29, 2005 I won't comment on whether this is ethical or not but I think the research is suppose to give us insight into how sentience and human intelligence developed and how it is created in the human brain. I guess the transition from apes to humans has plagued scientists so much for so long, that they feel it's justified to run such experiments...maybe, I'm just guessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyncod Posted July 29, 2005 Share Posted July 29, 2005 It's really not so much about sentience as it is architectural and developmental experiments and the chance of creating a human-monkey is really vanishingly small. And anybody that has a problem with experimenting on sentient beings should have a problem with experimenting on chimpanzees to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtonian Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 I find myself repeating old warnings.To play god may be a nice intellectual exercise and show how smart we are.But seriously they dont think. We all know what happens /monkey mam has undetected virus/human genes injected into fetus/virus mutates into cross species super bug/monkey bites scientist who sneaks home not wanting to get sacked...develops cough and decides to have holiday in paris/global infection almost all are wiped out. Have we not got enough to worry about heck When the BSE kicks in, in another 10 years together with drug resistant HIV were doomed.....doomed i tell you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daecon Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 I find myself repeating old warnings.To play god may be a nice intellectual exercise and show how smart we are.But seriously they dont think.We all know what happens /monkey mam has undetected virus/human genes injected into fetus/virus mutates into cross species super bug/monkey bites scientist who sneaks home not wanting to get sacked...develops cough and decides to have holiday in paris/global infection almost all are wiped out. I wouldn't worry about it. We all know those stories have happy endings. The girl gets the guy, the evil corrupt scientist/politician get infected and we all laugh at him, and Truth, Justice and The American Way win out over adversity. Then it's made into a feature film and flops at the Box Office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psion Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 A lot of humans would like to be test subjects, but they are strict laws for that. Don't blame science, blame the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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