koti Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 We will be switching from a 43” 720p Pioneer plasma PDP436XDE. The TV is too small for our new place and its only 720p. I payed a small fortune for that damn thing in 2007, time to move on. Looking at getting 65” for under 2K USD. We need to use it primarilly for Netflix, movies from the PC and MS Office work, would like to get a screen which will be less prone to pixel burn than our current Pionneer Plasma. I was looking at the Samsung UE65NU8042 but maybe I could do better? Any siggestions from someone up to date on these things are welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNow Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 I’m not an expert, but these guys are: https://www.cnet.com/topics/tvs/best-tvs/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharonY Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 Rtings also has extensive information specific to TVs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koti Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 2 hours ago, iNow said: I’m not an expert, but these guys are: https://www.cnet.com/topics/tvs/best-tvs/ 18 minutes ago, CharonY said: Rtings also has extensive information specific to TVs. Thankyou both, it looks like I'll go for the SAMSUNG UN65NU8000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringJunky Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Last time I had a tele, they were still CRT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Externet Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 My next TV will must have internet browser capability. Most Samsungs 'smart hub' feature such. That way I can receive channels from any country that do live streaming. Usually tune daily to Italy, France, Argentina, Spain, Japan... but at the moment I use a dedicated old laptop that will keep feeding the signals via HDMI until my TV dies. ----> https://wwitv.com/portal.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensei Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Externet said: My next TV will must have internet browser capability. Most Samsungs 'smart hub' feature such. That way I can receive channels from any country that do live streaming. Usually tune daily to Italy, France, Argentina, Spain, Japan... but at the moment I use a dedicated old laptop that will keep feeding the signals via HDMI until my TV dies. If such device has also camera built-in and voice detector to control it by voice, then it's perfect tool for "1984"... 2 hours ago, Externet said: That way I can receive channels from any country that do live streaming. That way you can be watched all-day-long from second side of the world, without having idea about it (like this happens with laptop with built-in camera, and with built-in microphones, and smartphones and tablets). Edited February 3, 2019 by Sensei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharonY Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 25 minutes ago, Sensei said: If such device has also camera built-in and voice detector to control it by voice, then it's perfect tool for "1984"... That way you can be watched all-day-long from second side of the world, without having idea about it (like this happens with laptop with built-in camera, and with built-in microphones, and smartphones and tablets). Google Home, Alexa, Cortana and Siri are already there. A big disadvantage of smart features is the lack of continuous support in many cases. Sooner or later vulnerabilities won't get patched and allow access to home network. There are also already attempts in the wild to gain control over smart devices to create botnets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensei Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 @CharonY If such device has WiFi, it does not even require plugging it to user ordinary Internet.. imagine that device is updated by custom firmware to search for any open WiFi and using it straight away... Personally I would prefer to allow programmers to be able to write programs for smart TV like any other device. So, for example I could write tool which would tell whether somebody intercepted my, or yours, device or not yet.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koti Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 I was taught by my former boss who is a networking guru/professor that securing the first device in the network chain is the key. I would presume that all home appliances including TV's are vulnerable to attacks but having a well configured and secured access point/switch/router at home would be too much fuss for the attacker to tamper with it, I would presume he/she would look for easier targets out there instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensei Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, koti said: I was taught by my former boss who is a networking guru/professor that securing the first device in the network chain is the key. I would presume that all home appliances including TV's are vulnerable to attacks but having a well configured and secured access point/switch/router at home would be too much fuss for the attacker to tamper with it, I would presume he/she would look for easier targets out there instead. You're thinking about hackers who are blindly attacking random people. If attack is at you personally, there is just needed to intercept DNS servers (e.g. by physically disconnecting your cable net), then replace them by fake-DNS servers, with fake-HTTP servers, and auto-updating software on your devices will download fake-apps and install them on the all your devices.. e.g. a spy may be employed in IT, TV/cable, mobile phone operator, and put some device between you and the real network. The all transmission will go through their servers. After DNS-trick mentioned above, entire installation can be removed without anybody knowing about its existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koti Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 30 minutes ago, Sensei said: You're thinking about hackers who are blindly attacking random people. If attack is at you personally, there is just needed to intercept DNS servers (e.g. by physically disconnecting your cable net), then replace them by fake-DNS servers, with fake-HTTP servers, and auto-updating software on your devices will download fake-apps and install them on the all your devices.. e.g. a spy may be employed in IT, TV/cable, mobile phone operator, and put some device between you and the real network. The all transmission will go through their servers. After DNS-trick mentioned above, entire installation can be removed without anybody knowing about its existence. I sincerely hope I can get to a point in my life in which someone would want to go through such measures to do that to me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensei Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) @koti Mitnick was garbage-diver just to learn first name, surname, eventually address of people who worked at company he wanted to attack.. Then calling them, and telling them BS story tale.. e.g. pretending co-worker (for instance from IT department) from the same company. You would not even know hacker or spy is calling at you by phone.. The first name and surname of co-worker would match the real person from company.. Edited February 3, 2019 by Sensei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koti Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 32 minutes ago, Sensei said: @koti Mitnick was garbage-diver just to learn first name, surname, eventually address of people who worked at company he wanted to attack.. Then calling them, and telling them BS story tale.. e.g. pretending co-worker (for instance from IT department) from the same company. You would not even know hacker or spy is calling at you by phone.. The first name and surname of co-worker would match the real person from company.. Yep, I know...he was my hero when I was in my teens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevim Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 hour ago, koti said: I sincerely hope I can get to a point in my life in which someone would want to go through such measures to do that to me Someone did it to me repeatedly/on off 3/4 years. And I’m nothing special/interesting. You never know the state of other people’s minds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koti Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 2 hours ago, nevim said: Someone did it to me repeatedly/on off 3/4 years. And I’m nothing special/interesting. You never know the state of other people’s minds... If you’re not Jeff Bezos whom you are not, I presume it must have been love/relationship related? I’m neither Jeff Bezos nor do I carry a risk of love related spying so I should be fine. In case of someone actually spying on me the worst can happen is the rest of the world knowing the kind of porn I watch and what torrents I sometimes download, I don’t think thats worth an effort for anyone to hack me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringJunky Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 59 minutes ago, koti said: If you’re not Jeff Bezos whom you are not, I presume it must have been love/relationship related? I’m neither Jeff Bezos nor do I carry a risk of love related spying so I should be fine. In case of someone actually spying on me the worst can happen is the rest of the world knowing the kind of porn I watch and what torrents I sometimes download, I don’t think thats worth an effort for anyone to hack me. Everything you do in your life is valuable to somebody when you multiply that data by millions of people. Information is power. The more a company/government knows about you, the more they can influence your behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevim Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 hour ago, koti said: If you’re not Jeff Bezos whom you are not, I presume it must have been love/relationship related? I’m neither Jeff Bezos nor do I carry a risk of love related spying so I should be fine. In case of someone actually spying on me the worst can happen is the rest of the world knowing the kind of porn I watch and what torrents I sometimes download, I don’t think thats worth an effort for anyone to hack me. I was presumed to be a spy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koti Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 36 minutes ago, StringJunky said: Everything you do in your life is valuable to somebody when you multiply that data by millions of people. Information is power. The more a company/government knows about you, the more they can influence your behaviour. Agreed. Although I’m sure the algorithms figured out by now that I’m too stubborn to be influenced by anything 34 minutes ago, nevim said: I was presumed to be a spy. That actually sounds really cool. You should have played along and asked for loads of money for the information you „have” They couldn’t prosecute you once it would come out you’re not a spy and you got nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevim Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 2 hours ago, koti said: Agreed. Although I’m sure the algorithms figured out by now that I’m too stubborn to be influenced by anything That actually sounds really cool. You should have played along and asked for loads of money for the information you „have” They couldn’t prosecute you once it would come out you’re not a spy and you got nothing. If only. You can’t get money out of people like this. I was lucky enough to escape alive. But I’m now disabled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koti Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 22 minutes ago, nevim said: If only. You can’t get money out of people like this. I was lucky enough to escape alive. But I’m now disabled. Up untill now I was treating this with humour, not anymore. Sory to hear that man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevim Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 hour ago, koti said: Up untill now I was treating this with humour, not anymore. Sory to hear that man. No worries! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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