studiot Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Why do I have to be pestered with this cookie nonsense every time I look on the forum now? Surely accepting the cookies once should be enough. And is anyone going to tell us about the changes to the site. Who knows some of them might actually be useful to users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 There was a software update but I haven’t seen any new features. I haven’t had any cookie notices so I don’t know what’s going on there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringJunky Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, studiot said: Why do I have to be pestered with this cookie nonsense every time I look on the forum now? Surely accepting the cookies once should be enough. And is anyone going to tell us about the changes to the site. Who knows some of them might actually be useful to users. Does your browser clear cookies on exit or not accept them? You need to create an exception if it does either. Annoyingly, it is EU law that acceptance is required. Maybe it's just started complying with this update. Edited January 6, 2019 by StringJunky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endy0816 Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 GDPR :'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensei Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, studiot said: Why do I have to be pestered with this cookie nonsense every time I look on the forum now? ..because of ridiculous regulations made by incompetent politicians in EU forcing web designers to ask user to allow cookies.. ? ...and remembrance of this setting is stored in.. cookies (it's only sensible place to store such things).. If somebody would answer "no, I don't want cookies ever!" would be asked this question "forever", as there is no other place to store such things than cookies (without registration and logging, which... also needs cookies to store session id).. If competent programmers would become politicians they would never make such law, as they would since the beginning see ridiculousness of it.. "Cookies" = "temporary volatile local website data" ps. Yes, I have the same on smartphone browser. I am not registered nor logged on it. On computer I am logged as user. Edited January 6, 2019 by Sensei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, Sensei said: "Cookies" = "temporary volatile local client website data" There is nothing in the definition that says they are temporary or volatile. 5 minutes ago, Sensei said: If competent programmers would become politicians The only group of people that would be more dangerous in that job than current politicians! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensei Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Strange said: There is nothing in the definition that says they are temporary or volatile. How many times did you use cookies from website code.. ? There is possible to set expiration date.. http://php.net/manual/en/function.setcookie.php "expires (...) If set to 0, or omitted, the cookie will expire at the end of the session (when the browser closes). " To have cookie non-temporary or non-volatile programmer has to set ridiculous high expiration date (e.g. in years).. Edited January 6, 2019 by Sensei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cuthber Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 38 minutes ago, Sensei said: because of ridiculous regulations made by incompetent politicians in EU Did you respond to the consultation on it? 33 minutes ago, Sensei said: To have cookie non-temporary or non-volatile programmer has to set ridiculous high expiration date (e.g. in years).. ... which is a trivially simple thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Sensei said: To have cookie non-temporary or non-volatile programmer has to set ridiculous high expiration date (e.g. in years).. Thanks for confirming what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endy0816 Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 No, it really would have been smarter to do something like require browsers to clear cookies by default instead. With how it is now most are going to cave under the endless barrage of cookie policy notices. Might be a script already that will automatically accept but would place the onus on the user. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNow Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Are you aware that nobody here is involved with writing the code? The admins can configure, not script. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endy0816 Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Yes. Ths would be for the user instead, a Greasemonkey script or Chrome's equivalent. Unless Brexit happens or the law changes I think the site itself is legally stuck though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cuthber Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 23 minutes ago, Endy0816 said: Unless Brexit happens It wouldn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MigL Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 I'm in the habit of doing a thorough cleaning of cookies ( and other assorted crap ) everytime I shut down. And I use about four different computers depending on where I am in the house. That means everytime I come back to SFn ( or Modern Military Aviation at Key Publishing Forums, for the last year ), I get the annoying message about cookies. Its a pain in the a*s, but you learn to live with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensei Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, MigL said: I'm in the habit of doing a thorough cleaning of cookies ( and other assorted crap ) every time I shut down. Isn't easier to use e.g. Firefox private window.. ? It's not storing cookies after closing application.. Edited January 6, 2019 by Sensei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endy0816 Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, John Cuthber said: It wouldn't help. That is likely true. Might open up some options though and end result would be the site legally could stop pestering Studiot. 47 minutes ago, MigL said: I'm in the habit of doing a thorough cleaning of cookies ( and other assorted crap ) everytime I shut down. And I use about four different computers depending on where I am in the house. That means everytime I come back to SFn ( or Modern Military Aviation at Key Publishing Forums, for the last year ), I get the annoying message about cookies. Its a pain in the a*s, but you learn to live with it. Yeah, depending on the browser I use I have the same problem. Edited January 6, 2019 by Endy0816 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moontanman Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Cookies? No one said there would be cookies! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
studiot Posted January 6, 2019 Author Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) Thanks for all the replies, too many to comment on individually, but the thread has provided an opportunity to air different views and experiences. I will pick out a few comments. I presume the survey you referred to was an EU survey not a forum one. Either way this is the first I have heard of it so I didn't respond. That's exactly it " no one told me" +1 Mman. The annoyance has only been happening for a few days. Unfortunately cookies, though they can be used in a benign manner, they are like visitors to my house. Some behave themselves properly, some don't want to follow my house rules and some are simply there for no good. So to avoid the latter I wonder in simply banning cookies is the answer. Edited January 6, 2019 by studiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cuthber Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 8 minutes ago, studiot said: I presume the survey you referred to was an EU survey not a forum one. Either way this is the first I have heard of it so I didn't respond. Most EU legislation is subject to a consultation process before it is enacted.https://ec.europa.eu/info/consultations_en?order_by_status=All&field_core_topics_target_id_entityreference_filter=369 If you don't like the sort of things they do, but you don't even look to see what they are doing... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensei Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 hour ago, John Cuthber said: If you don't like the sort of things they do, but you don't even look to see what they are doing... That's media's job to highlight ludicrous ideas and laws-to-be, gather independent experts opinions and bring them to bigger public attention.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cuthber Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 10 hours ago, Sensei said: That's media's job to highlight ludicrous ideas and laws-to-be, gather independent experts opinions and bring them to bigger public attention.. Like the media (apparently), I don't see GDPR as "ludicrous". What bits of it do you see as a problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 10 hours ago, Sensei said: That's media's job to highlight ludicrous ideas and laws-to-be, gather independent experts opinions and bring them to bigger public attention.. As the media are not even capable of reporting accurately on issues like Brexit, nor challenging the lies of politicians about it, you have implausibly high expectations of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider5678 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 On 1/6/2019 at 5:32 AM, studiot said: And is anyone going to tell us about the changes to the site. 1 I noticed if you hover your mouse over someones name, then it'll show a pop up about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimreepr Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, Raider5678 said: I noticed if you hover your mouse over someones name, then it'll show a pop up about them. not to be rude, but, And? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 37 minutes ago, Raider5678 said: I noticed if you hover your mouse over someones name, then it'll show a pop up about them. I'm fairly sure that has always been there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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