beecee Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 35 minutes ago, Kafei said: 36 minutes ago, Kafei said: As Alex Grey pointed out, it should be earth-shattering news, but just because it isn't, doesn't mean it's false. People are definitely slowly waking up to this stuff. It is slowly being inculcated, no one can deny that. Quote I referenced a quote in my OP that addressed this question quite thoroughly. It's not my fault it was censored by the MODs. My effort here, in fact, is to get it published as it should rightly be published. Alex Grey? Who the hell is that? Oh yeah I see....https://www.alexgrey.com/ Sorry not what I call reputable and again I'm not into drugs as defined. 4 minutes ago, Kafei said: Yes, it's everyone else's fault and everyone else's misunderstandings except of course your own obtuseness and refusal to answer directly. I've never claimed this. People have been able to understand this science quite fine, Jordan Peterson is one example. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT_WjwbSwPU#t=13m48s You are confusing philosophical musings and philosophy with practical empirical science. Quote Only I'm not speaking of speculative "philosophical musings" but actual, repeatable and demonstrable evidence. Science in many and all disciplines have papers based on speculation, eg: multi verse and of course the excellent universe from nothing I gave you before. Real scientists accept that as yet, it is not evidenced based accepted mainstream science. You need to finally accept that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kafei Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 (edited) Alex Grey? Who the hell is that? Oh yeah I see....https://www.alexgrey.com/ Sorry not what I call reputable and again I'm not into drugs as defined. I wasn't necessarily referring to Alex Grey's case, but rather the panel of professionals he was addressing. Alex Grey was just side-note, he's pretty famous, he's done work for bands like Nirvana's "In Utero" album and Tool's Lateralus and 10,000 days. I was just recognizing him as a celebrity, I suppose, by virtue that he's associated with advocating the mystical experience. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jd4PKMUJBI 24 minutes ago, Kafei said: Yes, it's everyone else's fault and everyone else's misunderstandings except of course your own obtuseness and refusal to answer directly. I've never claimed this. People have been able to understand this science quite fine, Jordan Peterson is one example. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT_WjwbSwPU#t=13m48s You are confusing philosophical musings and philosophy with practical empirical science. No, I'm not, that's what you're doing. I'm speaking of concrete evidence which has been established, you're referencing "philosophical musings," whatever that is. Quote Only I'm not speaking of speculative "philosophical musings" but actual, repeatable and demonstrable evidence. Science in many and all disciplines have papers based on speculation, eg: multi verse and of course the excellent universe from nothing I gave you before. Real scientists accept that as yet, it is not evidenced based accepted mainstream science. You need to finally accept that. I've never mentioned speculation at all. This has been your projection, and the multiverse is another one of your assumptions. No physicist has ever proven M-theory or any theory related to a TOE. Edited September 8, 2018 by Kafei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypervalent_iodine Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 ! Moderator Note Your OP has been asked and answered. Since this is also now delving into other territory, consider this closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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