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 discusses a man named Aldo Costa
 who has constructed a ferris wheel
 with 256 (empty, & moveable) wine bottles,
 (middle in Paris).
 
The mechanism appears rather obvious (to me):
 the bottles on half of the wheel (vertically seen, left vs right)
 are (~10 cm) further out radially
 from the axle,
 than the other (half) side.
 
The bottles are pushed up
 at the top (most) & bottom (most parts)
 of the wheel's circumference
 using lever rods (at the bottom)
 & pivots (with guide at the stand's top).
 
Once moved (~10 cm up) each bottle (rotated) stays in position
 because their pivots
 (are not (ball) bearings
 but) have enough friction.
 
So the total torques
 on the left versus right side
 of the ferris wheel
 are not equal,
 & the wheel turns
 (due to more torque on 1 side).
 
I estimate the wheel could generate
 less than 1 kW
 if connected to a generator.
 
The wheel was jammed
 with a crowbar
 to prevent it from turning
 (when not in use).
 
The wheel also stops turning
 if 4 bottles were adjusted.
 
My question is: what is the (exact) reason why
 that wheel turns?
 
I'm NOT interested
 in Eric Krieg's (beliefs, nor) guesswork.
Their was no wind,
 & that thing turns day & night
 (with or) without sunlight.
There were no batteries, cables, chemicals nor pullies.
 
How do they get "10 tons" of steel to (constantly) rotate
 (against friction)?
 
Where exactly is (the hamster in the cage,
 &) the energy coming from?
(Conservation of energy: energy can not be created (nor destroyed).)
 
If you cannot debunk this (ferris wheel) with an exact answer,
 then I am left to conclude
 that the wheel functions
 as the inventor said,
 e.g. as I have explained above.
 
I.e. It is gravity powered.
 
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5 minutes ago, Capiert said:
I estimate the wheel could generate
 less than 1 kW
 if connected to a generator.

It was my understanding that the wheel stalls when this is attempted. Otherwise, Mr Costa would be demonstrating THAT.

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7 minutes ago, Phi for All said:

It was my understanding that the wheel stalls when this is attempted. Otherwise, Mr Costa would be demonstrating THAT.

I don't know. I didn't see that demonstration you mentioned. Do you have any link with time point?

Maybe I should have said, much less than 1 kW?

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3 minutes ago, Capiert said:

I don't know. I didn't see that demonstration you mentioned. Do you have any link with time point?

There was no filmed demonstration, presumably because it didn't work. We had a thread some time ago on perpetual motion and he was mentioned. Somewhere on the web there's some correspondence where Costa admits his current machine failed, but swore a bigger one would work, only he wasn't being allowed to build it (which didn't make sense to me).

I like the crowbar bit. Very PT Barnum.

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On 6 June 2018 at 5:15 AM, Phi for All said:

There was no filmed demonstration, presumably because it didn't work. We had a thread some time ago on perpetual motion and he was mentioned. Somewhere on the web there's some correspondence where Costa admits his current machine failed, but swore a bigger one would work, only he wasn't being allowed to build it (which didn't make sense to me).

I like the crowbar bit. Very PT Barnum.

PT=?

Sorry, rumours don't interest me either

 (unless they can be backed up, & traced).

I.e. That still did NOT answer my (debunk) question:

What makes that "10 Tons" constantly turn?

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13 hours ago, Capiert said:

(unless they can be backed up, & traced).

The fake perpetual motion machine isn't backed up by anything except a fake video.

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What makes that "10 Tons" constantly turn?

Magic. Or invisible pink unicorns. 

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What I don’t understand is people looking at obviously uselees ways of finding energy when there are virtually infinite (st least for practical reasons) sources of energy like solar and hydrogen right at our fingertips to use.

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3 minutes ago, koti said:

What I don’t understand is people looking at obviously uselees ways of finding energy when there are virtually infinite (st least for practical reasons) sources of energy like solar and hydrogen right at our fingertips to use.

I guess you mean "hydroelectric" rather than hydrogen? Or are you thinking of that back-yard fusion reactor...

What I don't understand is why some people will credulously accept fraudulent claims about "free energy" and then reject (on the basis of "reasonable scepticism") scientific explanations of why they won't work.

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16 minutes ago, Strange said:

... back-yard fusion reactor...

I’m not telling, its a secret ;)

Yes, I meant hydroelectric, sory for the con(fusion). We don’t even need that though, harvesting 1 second of the sun’s energy output would power the US for 9 million years. We have a free and (practically) endless power source right in our own back yard. 

16 minutes ago, Strange said:

What I don't understand is why some people will credulously accept fraudulent claims about "free energy" and then reject (on the basis of "reasonable scepticism") scientific explanations of why they won't work.

I understand the reasons why but I’m having a hard time accepting them. I came across one of those riddles on social media the other day (posting it below) and I would estimate that out of thousands of people, not more than 15%-20% of people got the answer right. Most answer $10 or $0 but you also get a lot answers like $30 or $50. This is truly scary.

 

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On ‎2018‎ ‎08‎ ‎17 at 3:56 PM, swansont said:

Thank you.

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A hidden mechanism. A cheat.

Sorry, that still didn't answer my question.

I.e. What is the mechanism?

Independent if hidden or not.

On ‎2018‎ ‎08‎ ‎17 at 4:14 PM, Strange said:

The fake perpetual motion machine isn't backed up by anything except a fake video.

I didn't ask whether it was fake or not.

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Magic. Or invisible pink unicorns. 

Sorry, that also didn't answer my question.

On ‎2018‎ ‎08‎ ‎17 at 4:38 PM, koti said:

What I don’t understand is people looking at obviously useless ways of finding energy when there are virtually infinite (at least for practical reasons) sources of energy like solar and hydrogen right at our fingertips to use.

Yes, it seems the people at this forum do not understand (my question).

Sorry, that did not answer my question.

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12 minutes ago, Capiert said:

I.e. What is the mechanism?

It is hidden so how can we know?

Why not contact the person who created the video, politely point out that you know they are a fraud and ask if they would eb willing to explain how it was done.

Good luck.

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Just now, Strange said:

It is hidden so how can we know?

If the device is disassembled

 & no hidden mechanism is found

 then your assumed guess is useless.

Just now, Strange said:

Why not contact the person who created the video, politely point out that you know they are a fraud

Why should I do something like that

 & lie, doing something that I am not convinced of?

Just now, Strange said:

and ask if they would be willing to explain how it was done.

Your idea is perhaps not new,

 but nobody has succeeded

 (to report the exact mechanism,

 as far as I can see).

Just now, Strange said:

Good luck.

Thanks, but if it is so easy as you say,

 then surely you will have more success than me.

Sorry, that has (also) not answered my question.

(I've stated how it functions

 if the exact mechanism is not otherwise declared.)

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