Miseria_ Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 Simple Enough, Who's smarter? Neils Bhor by far in my opinion, his revoloutionary ideas on quatum mechanics have acctually proved Albert Einstein wrong, and so if Albert Einstein was to acctually accept Quantum Mechanics, then he would have to abandon e=mc^2. (Warning, Intellect may be required!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 Originally posted by Miseria_ Simple Enough, Who's smarter? Neils Bhor by far in my opinion, his revoloutionary ideas on quatum mechanics have acctually proved Albert Einstein wrong, and so if Albert Einstein was to acctually accept Quantum Mechanics, then he would have to abandon e=mc^2. (Warning, Intellect may be required!) Quantum mechanics don't prove relativity wrong. The theories are both generally correct, just not unified. Quantum gravity is a large area of research that is seeking to unify these theories. Furthermore, e=mc^2 applies to all particles, including those on the quantum scale and those without mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPHgravity Posted June 10, 2003 Share Posted June 10, 2003 Dr. Einstein, in my opinion, has everyone beat hands down in the smarts department. I would then place Newton at a far second with Bhor smewhere in the bottom of the starting line-up. Its all relative though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKiri Posted June 11, 2003 Share Posted June 11, 2003 Originally posted by Miseria_ Simple Enough, Who's smarter? Neils Bhor by far in my opinion, his revoloutionary ideas on quatum mechanics have acctually proved Albert Einstein wrong, and so if Albert Einstein was to acctually accept Quantum Mechanics, then he would have to abandon e=mc^2. (Warning, Intellect may be required!) E=mc^2 (or rather it's fuller equation, which I shall not bother to post again) is NOT part of General Relativity (The part of relativity which disagrees with QM). It is part of SPECIAL relativity, and The Standard Model of Quantum Physics assumes that SPECIAL relativity is valid. Your post is complete garbage. See the other thread for another reply on this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fafalone Posted June 11, 2003 Share Posted June 11, 2003 Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri Your post is complete garbage. play nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Edward Posted June 11, 2003 Share Posted June 11, 2003 Bohr came up with the best method(s) of measuring the height of a tall building using a barometer. but anyway, while what Bohr did was revolutionary, QM was rather a mess of ideas until Dirac came along and made it look pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKiri Posted June 11, 2003 Share Posted June 11, 2003 Originally posted by fafalone play nice I did, for one post :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miseria_ Posted June 11, 2003 Author Share Posted June 11, 2003 fair nuff, i was merely interested in other people beliefs. And I ultimately believe that both Quantum mechanics and The theory of Realativity both have to many gaps in them to be fully complete, and that they have a bad habit of contradicting each other. I also beleive that Neils Bhor Deserves more credit for the acheivements he has made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the GardenGnome Posted June 11, 2003 Share Posted June 11, 2003 Einstein did not not agree with Quatum Mechanics, he didnt agree with the Uncertainty Principle and randomness. I think it should be Bohr or Maxwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKiri Posted June 11, 2003 Share Posted June 11, 2003 Originally posted by Miseria_ fair nuff, i was merely interested in other people beliefs. And I ultimately believe that both Quantum mechanics and The theory of Realativity both have to many gaps in them to be fully complete, and that they have a bad habit of contradicting each other. I also beleive that Neils Bhor Deserves more credit for the acheivements he has made. WHICH theory of relativity? Spec Rel works perfectly fine, and that is the one you've quoted before. People, do NOT underestimate Einstein. The Photoelectric effect (explanation of) was his doing. This is a prerequisite for Quantum Physics. Special Relativity is one of the most elegent physical theories in history. General Relativity is a masterwork, which has been proven to be empirically correct on every level except the quantum one, and nearly ALL researches into a Grand Unified Theory are assuming that the flaw lies with the Standard Model of Quantum Mechanics, not with General Relativity. Oh, he also predicted the Einstein-Bose condensates and won the nobel prize. He's not the 'cleverest man ever' as some people seem to postulate. He did however create some of the most important theories in the history of physics. Whilst Bohr made important contributions, his achievements are little compared to the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Edward Posted June 12, 2003 Share Posted June 12, 2003 Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri He's not the 'cleverest man ever' as some people seem to postulate. He did however create some of the most important theories in the history of physics. who do you think is then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKiri Posted June 12, 2003 Share Posted June 12, 2003 Originally posted by Radical Edward who do you think is then? You want me to tell you the most intellegent person in human history? Given that intellegence is qualititative, I'd say it's a stupid question, totally ignoring our lack of information about almost all of the population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Edward Posted June 12, 2003 Share Posted June 12, 2003 Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri You want me to tell you the most intellegent person in human history? Given that intellegence is qualititative, I'd say it's a stupid question, totally ignoring our lack of information about almost all of the population. heh... the most intelligent known person in science then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKiri Posted June 12, 2003 Share Posted June 12, 2003 Originally posted by Radical Edward heh... the most intelligent known person in science then. That's also a stupid question, because the only way to judge them is by their results, which isn't a good indication of 'intellegence' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Edward Posted June 12, 2003 Share Posted June 12, 2003 Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri That's also a stupid question, because the only way to judge them is by their results, which isn't a good indication of 'intellegence' pedant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKiri Posted June 12, 2003 Share Posted June 12, 2003 Originally posted by Radical Edward pedant Don't hate me because I'm right. ps. If we're including Mathematicians, I'd have to go for Leonard Euler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Edward Posted June 12, 2003 Share Posted June 12, 2003 Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri Don't hate me because I'm right. It's not a matter of right really, I think of it more as a way of avoiding endless circumlocutions to get to the intended question asked. But then even the question "who has made the biggest contribution" is a difficult one in a way. Personally a favourite of mine is actually Thomas Young , though not many people have actually heard of the guy. and yeap, Euler was fairly prolific, though I didn't realise how much so until I looked him up just now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKiri Posted June 12, 2003 Share Posted June 12, 2003 Thomas Young: Famous throughout A-level physics as the man who created the Young Modulus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Edward Posted June 12, 2003 Share Posted June 12, 2003 Originally posted by MrL_JaKiri Thomas Young: Famous throughout A-level physics as the man who created the Young Modulus. and even A Level students will have precious little idea about the things Young did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavajoEverclear Posted June 12, 2003 Share Posted June 12, 2003 Einstien is better because he is a Jew. Another interesting fact: people think Einstien never succeed in achieving a unified theory, actually he did-- on his death bed. The government confiscated the information and much enjoys watching everyone squirm and suffer in confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavajoEverclear Posted June 12, 2003 Share Posted June 12, 2003 Another government perpetrate lie: they didn't find anything incredible in Einsteins disected brain------ they actually found severly enlarged nanobioroboticsensor-reciever/transmitor glands--- with traces of radiation that tells us he got the answers from the enlightened spirits of his Jewish anscestry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg1917 Posted June 12, 2003 Share Posted June 12, 2003 I presume your joking? did the government also sneak into my bedroom and steal that 10 quid note i cant find? You know what, come to think of it, it could only have been the US government. an oganisation linked with so many pathetically inept conspiracy theories must be responsible for something right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavajoEverclear Posted June 12, 2003 Share Posted June 12, 2003 actually that probably has more to do with Hogslayers Theory--- socks are clothes hanger larvae---- socks disappear, and you got too many hangers-- its obviously true. So what is you 10 quid a larvae of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg1917 Posted June 12, 2003 Share Posted June 12, 2003 it could be a larvae of several things. pizza specials from the chip shop beside my school, packs of ciggarettes, beer, beer, vodka, beer - they all seem to appear whenever 10 quid notes disappear. just reading over your post, receiving enlightenment from his jewish ancestry is maybe the most ridiculous single claim ever posted on science forums, sarcastic or not. even adams pole shift claims werent as obscure (just). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavajoEverclear Posted June 12, 2003 Share Posted June 12, 2003 uhhhhhhhhhhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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