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Best television series, ever. IMHO.

 

I think a big part of that is how strictly they held to the first few books. I'm usually a "book was better" guy, and HBO finally did the right thing. I can't choose between the series and the books. It's hard to blame the screenplay writers for deviations after book four, since GRRM hadn't finished the books before the series began. But after book four, you're so hooked that plot changes make you grumble instead of scream.

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I think a big part of that is how strictly they held to the first few books. I'm usually a "book was better" guy, and HBO finally did the right thing. I can't choose between the series and the books. It's hard to blame the screenplay writers for deviations after book four, since GRRM hadn't finished the books before the series began. But after book four, you're so hooked that plot changes make you grumble instead of scream.

 

I wonder if the story lines will merge in the end. After all, the Azor Ahai prophecy is undoubtedly foreshadowed in many events during the previous seasons and throughout the books.

 

There's still plenty of questions which appear to be red herrings, but I'm sure they'll have an impact on the finale.

 

For example:

 

What's with the sorcerer in the box? Varys promised Tyrion's revenge would be his because of it. Varys admits hearing a voice in the flames. Kinvara reminded him, alluding she knows what was said.

 

Did Cerio Forel pick up a sword from a fallen Lannister guard? Ned foresaw Arya fighting during her training with clashing steel in the audio. When Arya fled their confrontation with Meryn Trant, there was also audio of clashing steel, even though his wooden practice sword was in fragments? He is from Braavos, as is Jacn H'gar. One in the same? Jac'n was in Kings Landing at the time and a captive to the Night's Watch on her escort to Winterfell.

 

Why did Joffrey threaten to bed Sansa on her wedding night with Tyrion, merely because the Mad King did so? In the books, Aerys had a thing for Joanna Targareyn. Likewise, one of the first things Cersei said to Ned Stark was the Targareyns married brothers and sisters to keep bloodlines pure. Jamie and Cersei are incestuous lovers and parents, born within a year of Joanna's marriage to Tywin. Could they be Targaryens? Widow's Wail (Valerian sword forged from Ice, Ned Starks longsword) and (Mad) Queen/Lover slayer? Jamie Azor Ahai?

 

Bran has greensight and is a powerful warg. John Snow wargs Ghost. Arya warg'd birds at Ned's execution in the Sept of Baylor She also alluded to seeing Ned die to Yoren at the Crossroads, even though he covered her eyes. Rikkon said he saw Ned die from his bed in Winterfell. Sansa has not warg'd. Sansa and Jon never saw eye to eye, as children or after the Battle of the Bastards. Why?

 

Why does Gendry not have a bastard surname, when clearly every other bastard does? Is he Cersei's "black of hair" son that she alluded to in Bran's room in Season 1, yet Maggie the Frog's prophecy claims she would have three children, but the king twenty? She never returned to the crypt and even morbidly pondered Myrcella decomposing after internment.

 

In an interview, GRRM was asked if Dany and Jon Snow were the same age. He replied she's "about nine months younger". After the Howland Reed killed Arthur Dayne, Ned Stark returned his sword to it's rightful house in Starfall. Ashara Dayne (Quaithe?) purportedly cast herself from the tower after miscarrying her child. Dany is Ned Stark's daughter? The Daynes have Targaryn blood. Did she also flee to Essos after Roberts Rebellion knowing he marked Targareyns for death? Though honor bound and loyal to the king, Ned openly defied Robert assassinating Dany. Quaithe certainly has an interest (albeit riddled) in Dany's well being.

 

John Arryn's quote, "the seed is strong" has not borne out. Sweet Robin is neither strong, nor blond of hair. Littlefinger's son, perhaps?

 

Gilly's baby? Born of salt and smoke, under a bleeding star? A prince promised to the Night's King?

 

Stannis still alive? Melissandra might have been right all along. Before Brienne swung her sword, Stannis said "Do your duty". Her duty is to Starks, not Renly, yet she failed both.

 

Why is Beric Dondarian resurrectable, six times? Thoros of Myr and Melissandra have no idea why. No other red priests/esses mention him either. He was loyal to Ned Stark.

 

Why is Bron's house mentioned but not named? Every other noble house is introduced and identified as such. He sang the Rains of Castamere before the Battle of the Blackwater. House Reyne, perhaps?

 

What did Podrick do to those whores, that he was refunded? :wub:

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Yes, thank you, I have been following Game of Thrones.

 

In the news they said this will be the first of the last 2 seasons, and each of these last 2 seasons will be half as long as a usual. Is that correct?

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Yes, thank you, I have been following Game of Thrones.

 

In the news they said this will be the first of the last 2 seasons, and each of these last 2 seasons will be half as long as a usual. Is that correct?

 

Fifteen episodes split between two years. I think seven this year, eight next.

 

There's talk of spin off series.

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The HBO GO app and related cable provider authentication services are down. I was logged in yesterday. For some reason not logged in today / forced logout. Can't log back in without activating device. Activation services are down. Can't watch anything. Irritating. It's not like you didn't know months in advance that activity would spike tonight. Way to beef up your systems, jackoffs.

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Sorted, but we started watching Last Kingdom instead :lol:

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The HBO GO app and related cable provider authentication services are down. I was logged in yesterday. For some reason not logged in today / forced logout. Can't log back in without activating device. Activation services are down. :lol:

 

Bummer

 

Good episode. I'll not spoil it for those haven't seen it yet.

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Winter is Coming, so climate change is not real! :)

No matter if "winter will be coming" or "warming will be coming", overcrowded Earth, will have so many hungry people, who will eat other hungry and/or dead people, sooner or later..

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I wonder if the story lines will merge in the end. After all, the Azor Ahai prophecy is undoubtedly foreshadowed in many events during the previous seasons and throughout the books.

 

There's still plenty of questions which appear to be red herrings, but I'm sure they'll have an impact on the finale.

 

For example:

 

What's with the sorcerer in the box? Varys promised Tyrion's revenge would be his because of it. Varys admits hearing a voice in the flames. Kinvara reminded him, alluding she knows what was said.

 

Did Cerio Forel pick up a sword from a fallen Lannister guard? Ned foresaw Arya fighting during her training with clashing steel in the audio. When Arya fled their confrontation with Meryn Trant, there was also audio of clashing steel, even though his wooden practice sword was in fragments? He is from Braavos, as is Jacn H'gar. One in the same? Jac'n was in Kings Landing at the time and a captive to the Night's Watch on her escort to Winterfell.

 

Why did Joffrey threaten to bed Sansa on her wedding night with Tyrion, merely because the Mad King did so? In the books, Aerys had a thing for Joanna Targareyn. Likewise, one of the first things Cersei said to Ned Stark was the Targareyns married brothers and sisters to keep bloodlines pure. Jamie and Cersei are incestuous lovers and parents, born within a year of Joanna's marriage to Tywin. Could they be Targaryens? Widow's Wail (Valerian sword forged from Ice, Ned Starks longsword) and (Mad) Queen/Lover slayer? Jamie Azor Ahai?

 

Bran has greensight and is a powerful warg. John Snow wargs Ghost. Arya warg'd birds at Ned's execution in the Sept of Baylor She also alluded to seeing Ned die to Yoren at the Crossroads, even though he covered her eyes. Rikkon said he saw Ned die from his bed in Winterfell. Sansa has not warg'd. Sansa and Jon never saw eye to eye, as children or after the Battle of the Bastards. Why?

 

Why does Gendry not have a bastard surname, when clearly every other bastard does? Is he Cersei's "black of hair" son that she alluded to in Bran's room in Season 1, yet Maggie the Frog's prophecy claims she would have three children, but the king twenty? She never returned to the crypt and even morbidly pondered Myrcella decomposing after internment.

 

In an interview, GRRM was asked if Dany and Jon Snow were the same age. He replied she's "about nine months younger". After the Howland Reed killed Arthur Dayne, Ned Stark returned his sword to it's rightful house in Starfall. Ashara Dayne (Quaithe?) purportedly cast herself from the tower after miscarrying her child. Dany is Ned Stark's daughter? The Daynes have Targaryn blood. Did she also flee to Essos after Roberts Rebellion knowing he marked Targareyns for death? Though honor bound and loyal to the king, Ned openly defied Robert assassinating Dany. Quaithe certainly has an interest (albeit riddled) in Dany's well being.

 

John Arryn's quote, "the seed is strong" has not borne out. Sweet Robin is neither strong, nor blond of hair. Littlefinger's son, perhaps?

 

Gilly's baby? Born of salt and smoke, under a bleeding star? A prince promised to the Night's King?

 

Stannis still alive? Melissandra might have been right all along. Before Brienne swung her sword, Stannis said "Do your duty". Her duty is to Starks, not Renly, yet she failed both.

 

Why is Beric Dondarian resurrectable, six times? Thoros of Myr and Melissandra have no idea why. No other red priests/esses mention him either. He was loyal to Ned Stark.

 

Why is Bron's house mentioned but not named? Every other noble house is introduced and identified as such. He sang the Rains of Castamere before the Battle of the Blackwater. House Reyne, perhaps?

 

What did Podrick do to those whores, that he was refunded? :wub:

 

Two things: "The seed is strong" was about Robert's children, not Jon Arryn's. All of his bastards had black hair no matter what their mother's hair color, but all of "his" children with Cersei had blond hair. Robin doesn't really enter into it.

 

Also, Bronn's House never gets brought up because he doesn't have one, as far as we know. He was just a mercenary Tyrion hired, not a member of the nobility.

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