Here is a new study on quantum tunneling

Physicists watch quantum particles tunnel through solid barriers. Here's what they found.

https://www.livescience.com/quantum-tunneling-observed-and-measured.html

So any exposure to violence is bad? Seeing people fight,  parents fighting, neighbor fighting, people fighting at school, violence in movies or TV or violence in video games.

And exposure to this the person is more likely to be violent and get in trouble with violent crimes.

4 hours ago, Ten oz said:

I do not feel you have defined crime yet. There is a huge difference between the behavioral reason and possible genetic precursors for breaking various laws. Serial killers and people who avoid paying their taxes are very different yet both commit crimes. Even with a specific category of crime I see broad differences. Take statutory rape. A 20yrs engaging in such an act with a 17yrs in a locality where 18yrs old is the limit is committing that crime. However in my opinion the motives for doing so, underlying mental issues, threat to the community, etc are different for that 20yr old than say a 55yr old who does the etc same thing. Both are bad but I think one is far worse yet legally they are identical in many place.

I think in the context of this thread we are talking about bigger crimes than crimes that just may be social taboo crimes.

Crimes like robbery, burglary, assault, rape, car jacking, stealing, theft or shoplifting is very  universal and these crime can be put into two groups like property crime and violent crimes.

Crimes like public loitering, drinking in public, littering , parking in no parking zone, gambling, sex and drugs so on are more social taboo crimes that may be legal or not legal in some areas.

But property crimes and violent crimes are universal crimes and are the biggest factor in large prison population and repeat offenders.

One of the posters above said when kid growing up has exposure to family fights, domestic violence and people fighting the kid grows up being violent. Be it the kid learns and thinks this is okay to do or some how it has an effect on the brain and the kid that grows up the brain cannot understand right from wrong. So not sure what is going on here on the brain.

On 8/4/2020 at 7:14 PM, Ten oz said:

You did not make an attempt to define crime. What is or is not a crime varies by locality. That said there are studies that look at the impact exposure to violence (many forms of violence are criminal throughout the world) has on the brain as it develops. Exposing a child to violence does impact brain development, increases adult health risks, and increase the likelihood the child with be violent.

Witnessing domestic violence as a child limits said child's attachment to parents and is associated with lower IQ. HERE

Another study links violence exposure at a young age to inflammatory issues than lead to increased health risks from cardiovascular disease, type-2 diabetes, and dementia, HERE

And of course exposure to violence at a child increase ones likelihood of being incarcerated as an adult. HERE.

 

 

Wow I did not know that.

But is most of the public and court system going to have the knowledge about these studies?

Or are they just going to say they are bad person or devil person?

That is problem when courts are made up of non doctors and Scientists. So How can this be fixed?

20 hours ago, Strange said:

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Moderator Note

This is a science forum. Do you have any evidence that these are important factors in crime? 

 

I’m not sure if they would made up 1% of people in jail or 70% of people in jail.

Unless one can map the person brain to see if there is any brain abnormalities or the brain is just wired different. If it confirmed these people may have very hard time not doing crime or it may be impossible not to do crime.

And again not sure if they would make up 1% or 70% of people in jail.

Same thing with chemical imbalance.

On 7/26/2020 at 8:26 AM, jajrussel said:

Okay, this makes sense. It eliminates the apparent same particle going through both slits simultaneously, and to a degree explains the reason for the magic recombination statement that I remember reading somewhere, and simultaneity isn’t necessary for a wave/s to pass through both slits since everything tends to move at odds to everything else, even if only slightly. The wave diagrams, generally provided present what is apparent simultaneity. Thank you...

Have a look at the experiments carried out when particles are fired at a card with 2 slits , even when just 1 particle is fired at a time you STILL build up an interference pattern on the other side and  this can ONLY happen when 1 particle interferes with another!!

BUT you only fired 1 particle at the card - so where did the other particle come from?

Problem is- when you try to see what happened you do NOT get the interference pattern😲

On 8/4/2020 at 5:37 PM, Area54 said:

I cannot see any connection between the contents of my post and your response to it. I shall, however, respond directly to your post.

• I agree with @dimreepr that speaking of "bad guys" is not helpful.
• I agree with @paulsutton that "Each case should be treated as an individual case", adding that this distinction of treatment should (generally) relate to sentencing, but not to declaration of guilt or innocence.
• I agree with @Markus Hanke that people are " responsible for their actions. Whether or not they should be answerable for them is another matter."
• Your examples, while superficially specific, are actually too general to allow a meaningful answer, other than "it depends".

Well the start of the thread was what can cause crime and the topic of free will well came up.

Members talked about factors growing up and poverty. Like if you got rapped than you more likely to rape some one, you being abused as a kid than you more likely to abuse your kids or being poor more likely to steal.

The problem with US politics is conservative vs liberal. Where in the US conservatives will down play this.

The problem with sociology and psychology is there is no tool to measure free will and it is not well understood. So the US conservatives just downplay it has junk science.

As there no tool that can measure factors like if you got raped has kid you more likely to rape some one and how that plays part on free will. Or if you grow up being abused as kid than you more likely to abuse your kids.  There is no tools or tests so US conservatives just down play all this.

And brain injuries, brain problems or chemical imbalance is even more looked down among US conservatives as just junk science. That with out tools like MRI, CT scan or blood work the US conservatives will just keep down playing it as junk science.

Not good , the US is facing a doctor shortage.

Base on this article the US has now less than million doctors 

https://www.statista.com/topics/1244/physicians/
 

With all the schools closed for the virus it looks like things are going to get much worse with shortage of doctors.

To make things worse they now are sayIng there is less physicists and engineer in the world now.

And now they are saying with out cure or vaccine life will not get back to normal. Well does this mean there is going to be massive shortage of skilled people with the schools being closed?

On 7/28/2020 at 6:15 PM, Area54 said:

I would simply like to understand the point you are making. At present it is not clear. Please state your position clearly, because at present I have little or no idea what it is, other than, apparently, being generally disagreeable. You state society is not to blame, but also imply it is to blame.

Also note, I have expressed no position whatsoever on the thread topic. My couple of posts have been directed solely at attempting to understand your position. So please don't assign me imaginary motives conjured out of your own psyche.

Not sure what you mean that the court will look into if the bad guy that raped some one was raped has a kid him self? And if so spend less jail time than bad guy that raped some one that was not raped him self?

Or poor person that does shoplift spend less jail time than some on that is not poor and done shoplift?

4 hours ago, iNow said:

Their reporting system is less relevant to me than their lifestyle. Close communal living and lack of education or hygiene are frustratingly common across the subcontinent. 

not sure what you mean by communal living. Are you saying most people from India live in communal living?

Some parts of India lack water so that may explain the lack of hygiene.

On 7/30/2020 at 8:44 AM, dimreepr said:

Free will has to be a given in any society, other than a philosophical salon. 

In a well balanced society, things like poverty, up-bringing, mental state etc... is adressed in the courts via mitigation, and ignored by the other two branches of justice.

not sure what you mean by that in bold?

The problem is this thread is turning into a sociology thread like is society, group, culture or bad upbringing, bad parenting or problems like being poor is causing crime. And free will here becomes murky problem as some say I was poor and did not do that or I had these problems did not do that and members blame weak character. 

Some support it and others do not or have mixed views on free will.

Not addressing mental health or brain anatomy problem.

I think the problem with public is they don’t believe in bad brain anatomy problem or a chemical imbalance problem. So support free. And thus why members are avoiding it here or some thing.

Or that we don’t have CT scan, MRI scan or blood work to support bad brain anatomy or chemical imbalance problem and like to  argue no problem so you have free will.

And it becomes poorly understood problem with mental health.

14 hours ago, Markus Hanke said:

I think everyone is always responsible for their actions. Whether or not they should be answerable for them is another matter - it essentially boils down to the question of how much choice someone actually had in a given situation. Someone’s social environment, upbringing, mental disposition etc may place strong constraints on their behavioural patterns, so they may not have been as free to choose their actions as we’d think. But then again, this is very difficult to measure objectively, because on the flip side you have plenty of people from extremely difficult backgrounds who are not prone to criminal behaviour at all. So I don’t know what the answer is, but it can’t be a simple one.

I guess you need tools to show there is brain damage or some thing wrong with their brain  than other people their brain or a chemical imbalance problem.

The problem is the critics that say this is just theory and there is no science proof. Well why because if there is no brain damage and there is nothing wrong with their brain it is the same as other people their brain the brain is not wired wrong and no chemical imbalance than it comes down to other things that may be the cause of crime.

If it is because of social issues and not psychology than people are going to be less empathy to the criminal.

That if there is chemical imbalance or brain is well different it is beyond the  person control and the person needs to take meds to not do crime. 

But I don’t think psychology gone that far to day say this today or psychology is that advance to day to say this so in the end this is  just theories floating around.

I know there is not much information out there and there is lot of talk but not any hardcore science. But the theory why some people do crime and not other people is their brain yes the way their brain is wired and well some other people say chemical imbalance problem that these people have well really hard time to control his or her own self.

And there seem to be this debate among people that some people say low IQ and other people say chemical imbalance. But is there well any agreement among doctors and scientist today?

And well people who are poor may well steal or go around asking people for money at the 711 they are not normally violent or have hard time controlling his or her own emotion and pulled out gun, shoot some one or fight some one because you said some thing or looked at the person the wrong way or road rage or some one cheating on the lover.

If it is the way their brain is because of the way their brain is wired or a chemical imbalance are they really responsible or because of low IQ? 

Unless the person did not take his or her meds to me normal are they responsible for such crimes?  

On 6/14/2020 at 6:43 PM, Strange said:

So the documentary said that people came to the Americas from Siberia, China, Mongolia and the Philippines?

I have never heard those last two mentioned before. I wonder how reliable the information in this documentary was, in that case.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Settlement_of_the_Americas

The part about the Philippines seem really odd. That why I question the documentary.

I think like you said most scientist believe Siberia, China and Mongolia is where they came from.

On 6/12/2020 at 5:21 AM, koti said:

People in general are very confused as to most subjects. I remember being a kid at least breathing, eating and procreation were subjects free of confusion but that too is no longer the case.

I think we need be clear about looks than DNA test.

That if billion people where in a room from different countries and you had no idea from what country they came from and you cannot run DNA test that could you group the people base on looks. And how many groups.

Now culture is other thing and culture changes over time.

On 6/13/2020 at 11:34 AM, Strange said:

There is a lot of variety in Siberia and China. So I don't think you can really say there is a single "look". People also got to the Americas from other places at different times, so the native population would have had a bit of a mixed background.

One common trait that is common in Asia is the epicanthic fold (which gives eyes their distinctive appearance) this is also common among native Americans. 

Really, "it doesn't look like it to me" is about the lowest possible standard to judge something. Using objective evidence is better.

Yea I think that is what he was saying here that some may come from Philippines and from Mongolia.

It makes sense lot of Mongolia people look similar to the natives.

But I'm not sure if 90% main stream media and schools support that theory?

I saw this documentary on native Indians in America’s and it goes on to say they came about 10,000 to 14,000 years ago and most them are Siberian and Chinese .

I find this a bit questionable that they think they came from Russia and China and are people from there.  People from China or Siberian do not look like natives. So why does the documentary say that?

Why do people confuse Race vs. Ethnicity when they talk or post on the internet?

Where the dictionary is really clear that ethnicity is shared cultural characteristics, like language, religion, fashion, way you dress, music, custom, food so on.

Where race referring to physical characteristics on what the person looks like .

where base on this article there is 30 human races in the world.

https://blog.world-mysteries.com/science/how-many-major-races-are-there-in-the-world/
 

But way more ethnicity in the world.

What does it mean when it is saying representing the actual state of the particle by adding up a bunch of functions? This is in reference to eigenstates.

That particle has allowed states called eigenstates. Well it is not that particle is in any one of those states, but you can represent its actual state by combining all of them together. That the part of eigenstates I do not understand.

Where a general state of a particle is a mixture of these eigenstates. This is the part I do not understand.

 Are there going to be better equipment where we can know these things like string theory , extra dimensions and uncertainty principle you never know the particle the speed and position at the same time. You can know the speed but not the position or you know the position but not the speed.  

If we know a particle's speed EXACTLY, then we can't know exactly where it is.  Likewise, if we know exactly where it is, we can't know it's speed.

 Are there going to be better equipment for this?

On 4/11/2020 at 10:24 AM, Mordred said:

I have studied string and M theory and I do not recall any DE or DM explanation specific to the two theories. Though I would not doubt one can find papers that attempt to do so in those theories. 

 As above a dimension is an independent mathematical object such as a variable/group/tensor etc. DM and DE do not require extra dimensions to model them.

Some people make reference to things being in other dimension that humans cannot see and there may or may not be tools to see the dimension. And think much of the dark energy or dark matter may be in there.

On 3/12/2020 at 4:06 AM, Markus Hanke said:

The reasons are of a mathematical nature. When you formulate the theory, there are two basic requirements that need to be fulfilled - it needs to be internally consistent, and it needs to describe the correct particles (with correct properties etc) which we empirically find the in the real world. It turns out that these requirements are fulfilled only if there are more than 4 spacetime dimensions, otherwise the model doesn’t work.

Really shocking base on this video I found. There could be more dimensions of space.  Could this explain the problems they are having with gravity today? And also the Schrödinger's cat, uncertainty principle and double slit experiment?

The short video below.

Why does string theory require extra dimensions of space?

That not really the big problem because if you look at this that is lot of money

How much money is spent on cancer research per year?

https://www.quora.com/How-much-money-is-spent-on-cancer-research-per-year?share=1

That is 2012 stats that still lot of money.

Yet people are still dying today so how much progress really have been made in the past 5 to 10 years.

Looking at 2010 to 2020 really how much progress really been made.

On 3/4/2020 at 8:14 PM, Mordred said:

The first step to understand is that in physics models including string theory is that a dimension is any independent variable or quantity/function that can change in value without changing any other. ( This includes string theory) the extra dimensions correspond to particle degrees of freedom that correspond to their interactions.

 It does not refer to dimension as per another universe etc.

 String theory applies waveform descriptives to the properties we describe as a particle. In this sense it isn't different from QFT. A string is a waveform descriptive.

It follows GR but more so in the SR regime as gravity is so weakly in the quantum regime.

I don't like the idea of the parallel universe to explain the Schrödinger's cat, uncertainty principle and double slit experiment.

So if string theory / M theory or extra dimension or many dimensions hold up better we do not need parallel universe  to explain Schrödinger's cat, uncertainty principle and double slit experiment.

How much money is spent on cancer research every year? The last I hear is in the billions every year?

So why the slow down now? How much progress as been made in the past 5 to 10 years?