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  • Birthday 01/23/1955

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    South Eastern North Carolina
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    I enjoy surf fishing, beach combing, scuba, aquariums, native fish breeding,
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    some statistical analysis but no other higher education.
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    Astrobiology, evoluntionary biology, space travel, nuclear power,
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    I live near the ocean, I am a science junkie and just another bundle of ignorance trying learn.
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  1. I watched Avatar... The Way of the Water last night... or should I say Moby Dick on another planet? Wonderful CGI technology but evidently future humans are so evil the universe should be hoping for an early Nuclear War. What is the plot of the next Avatar based on? Maybe they'll step up and go with something more adult like Between Planets by Heinlein, Ooo Ooo Ooo I know! How about Oliver Twist? Naw too complex. 

    1. MigL

      MigL

      Most expensive cartoon ever made.
      James Cameron needs to go back to making movies that entertain, like Terminator 2 or Aliens.

    2. Moontanman

      Moontanman

      The cgi was great and hints at some wild possibilities, the John Varley trilogy, IMHO a great story but until now impossible to make, would lend itself to this type of cgi quite well. Sci-fi in general would benefit with this technology. But this movie was... not much more than a retelling of Moby Dick and not really well done either.

      The first movie was sweet but just a retelling of Pocahontas, the CGI and the idea of what an alien planet might look like was great but some of the portrayal of the aliens was "sweet" instead of realistic.

      The shifting of the necklaces of the females to hide their "almost" breasts was sweet in the beginning but became distracting and comical as the movie went on.

      The females either should have not had "almost" breasts or they should have shared the modern taboo of not exposing them, would bra tops have been such a problem for cgi? The constant "accidental" covering of the breasts became silly at best as the movie went on. In the second movie it became annoying as hell and just made it more difficult to suspend disbelief of the sci-fi setting of the movie. 

      I thought the idea of a world wide AI controlling the ecosystem was kind of unique and made it interesting but the willy nilly method of the AI intervening seemed contrived to me at best. 

      Let's talk about the over the top evil of the humans and the unobtainium of both movies, the first one was difficult to swallow but not impossible to conceive of. It was easy to assume the "people" of earth stumbled across such a thing and it's value in their technology was enough to justify mining and shipping it to earth. 

      But the stuff obtained from the alien whales? They arrive ten years later and within a year they find an immortality serum in the brains of "alien whales" and have a complex system of obtaining it already set up?  This just beggars the imagination to think they discovered it that quickly.

      Did they set about the slaughter of native animals immediately when they arrived the second time looking for something of value to justify star travel? The method used to obtain this substance would have required a technological base already in place when they landed. No justification for this was even hinted at.

      The Red Planet by Heinlein would have been a much better story and a good way to display the CGI tech. 

      In fact the entire operation seemed to indicate they already knew about the immortality serum before they arrived, screw the unobtainium that allowed for the tech that got them to the planet, lets kill something and see if we can find an immortality serum. 

      I think the whale theme was meant to be a tear jerker for little kids but it detracted from the story line and made suspension of disbelief even more difficult. I write better than that or at least more subtilly. The entire story was about as subtle as a slap in the face with a dead fish.

      Such a wonderful possibility wasted, let us hope this technology can be applied to better movies in the future.  

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