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  1. the point of what 1 represents is here in your reply:

     

    the unit of counting or measurement

     

     

     

    BUT.............

     

     

    what distinguishes 1 from "all known measurement systems" ????

     

     

    where does this 1 start in time and space????

     

     

    where is it found in Euclidean Space ??????

     

     

    what is the "origin" of 1 as per velocity and the speed of light?

     

     

    what is 1 as an initial state?

     

     

    what is 1 relative to???

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    The question is understood. One is

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    The subjective, mystical, arbitrary, numerological meaning you wish to place on the number one is of no interest to "the scientific community". Your proofs are meaningless and depend on particular naming conventions and numbering conventions that cannot be supported as fundamental to the physical applications you are trying to shoe-horn them into.

  2. Critical & Anaretic Degrees

     

    http://www.cafeastro...caldegrees.html

     

    180 degree marks the star constellation of Gemini, the symbol of this zodiac is pi ratio....

     

     

    Saggitarius points to the Galactic Center, Of Suspected Black Hole Region:

     

    http://www.astrology...cleus.asp?orig=

     

     

     

    I can prove this using pi and " standard" numerology now:

     

     

     

     

    Gemini 6 / Saggitarius 12 = 0.5

     

     

    1/0.5 = 2

     

     

    6 / 3.14 = 1.91082802547771

     

     

    1 / 1.91082802547771 = 0.52333333333333

     

    But again what does 1 represent, this is what I am trying to ask the science community but no one seems to understand this simple question....

     

     

    WHAT DOES 1 REPRESENT IN YOUR NUMERATORS???????

     

    The inverse? Ok what is this inverse?

     

     

    This is what my 1 here represent:

     

     

    1 / 5.0042 = 0.199832141

    This is a year 1998 of auxiliary time unit numbers.

    The Galactic Alignment "zone" is 1998 +/- 18 years = 1980 - 2016

     

    http://alignment2012.com/whatisga.htm

     

    Whether the link above is true or not, I don't believe in coincidence...

     

     

     

    BY THE WAY INCREDIBLE ART WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    http://sacredgeometr...f4-145dae8cbbb8

     

     

     

    Arbitrarily assigning meaning... rotating a figure 180o has nothing at all to do with astrology.

     

     

    Again, arbitrarily assigning meaning. Had you asked, I'd have told you why I have used that art as an avatar for a number of years. Sadly, I have lost the original source, I will try to find it. Here is the source for the original artwork. It's hard to make out when it's that small, but the figure behind the meditating man is a representation of the E8 Lie group, which besides being far beyond my ability to understand and remarkably beautiful in its own way, happens to be the basis of the somewhat controversial theory of everything proposed by Garret Lisi. Ultimately, I find the picture visually pleasing, and feel no need to justify my selection of it as an avatar to you for any reason whatsoever.

     

     

     

    Again, you've lost me. None of this has bugger all to do with a 4 x 4 grid of numbers that are arranged in a way so that every column and row and the two diagonals have the same sum. I like playing with numbers. It keeps my fragile, old mind sharp. I especially like doing sudoku puzzles. I would find it absurd if anyone proposed sudoku puzzles are capable of explaining anything meaningful in physics. I see no difference between that absurdity and what you are attempting to do.

     

     

     

    No, if anything I attempted to use number theory to show you that there is nothing divine, mystical, magical, meaningful, or otherwise important about a magic square. It is a number puzzle, nothing more.

     

    EDIT: Found the source for my avatar, or at least the place I first saw it.

     

     

     

  3. Murderator

     

    Is the same as Rapist, to Typist...

     

    Murder is a bad thing, rape is also a bad thing.

     

    Through and Through simple and simple...

     

     

    Moderators

    should not be exempt, this has nothing to do with comments, its the fact people will get offended by this, some just rather not say it...

     

    The definition of a

    Moderators

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderator

     

     

     

    OH BY THE WAY CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT "sound" is to:

     

    Murderator they seem not to know for some odd reason, perhaps I was not clear...

     

     

    !

    Moderator Note

    OK, dude, you need to calm down. Staff gets to choose their user titles, and ecoli chose some word play on the title "Moderator". Your reports have all been discussed, and the ones with merit have been acted upon. The ones without merit have not been ignored, but there has been no action taken because they deserved none.

     

    Criticizing your ideas or your presentation is NOT a personal thing. It's what science does to make sure any evidence presented is sound and trustworthy.

     

    The staff used something I think you may find of intrest here is what they stated:

     

     

    Criticizing your ideas or your presentation is NOT a personal thing. It's what science does to make sure any evidence presented is sound and trustworthy. Which of coarse you made fun of me using the same word sound. I would like to see you tell this staff member what you told me about demensionally sound units and or numbers, like I explained to you and others here whom accused me of not making sense. [/modtip]

     

     

    this was your comment to me, remember????

     

     

    If you were thinking that typing this would clear up any confusion, you're sadly mistaken.

     

    What's a "demonsionally sound values"? Sounds like something that would come out of a guitar being played by the Pick of destiny

     

     

     

    :blink::blink:

     

    I'm not really an E. coli either and I'm assuming you aren't the architect of the Matrix. Don't be so sensitive, I was only joking.

  4. Yes I know, its called too many facts to handle.

     

     

     

    Wow. It's easier to hit the bullseye if you throw the darts one at a time. Throwing them all at once like that is dangerous to the people sitting near the board.

     

    180o rotation of the descending numbers????

    Sounds like astrology to me

    astrology ascension right ascension

     

    http://www.astrology...t-ascension.php

     

     

    Oh by the way, great avator photo! Is that Yoga and the & chakras???? Hymmm

    http://www.mindbodyg...-Beginners.html

     

     

     

     

    ANYWAYS....

     

    What do degrees have in common with numbers, remember, their is no signification to magical squares..... Right? Unless you set ratios as .05 right? or as in .5c "Lorentz transformations???????????????

     

    Here is something to concider about this .5 thing

     

    http://www.glafreniere.com/matter.htm

     

    "E" must be measured in joules, the mass "m" in kilograms and the speed "v" or "c" in meters per second. Note that "c squared" means (1000 * 300000 km/s) ^ 2, about 9 * 10 ^ 16. Suppose a one kilogram meteorite is moving toward the Earth at .01 c (1860 miles or 3000 km per second). It contains .00005 kilogram as m' kinetic energy :

     

    b = .01 m = 1

     

    g = 1 / (1 – b 2 ) 1 / 2 = 1.00005

     

    m' = g m – m = g – 1 = .00005

     

    E = m'c 2

     

    E = .00005 * 9 * 10 16 joules

     

    E = 4.5 * 10 12 joules.

     

     

     

    So I guess then me and Benjamin Franklin have the same "quests."

     

    Franklin says he drew "magic squares or circles" to occupy his mind

    http://www.pasles.or...te/article.html

     

     

    While our leaders play dice with our future and scientist debate on new creative "solutions" hence "the old ones don't work anymore" I guess this is the only entertainment this world can offer me at this time.

     

    But then thinking about it change always causes anxieties for many...

     

     

    Face it, you used number theory, to prove number theory wrong as a concept.

     

     

     

    No, what I did was show that zero has no particular significance in a magic square, and in fact, there is no magic at all involved. It's the same as the shortcut for adding 0+1+2+3...+13+14+15 arranged in a 4 by 4 grid. The lines were just to show the order that the table is filled, and that as long as the order of ascending numbers is a 180o rotation of the descending numbers, you end up with a magic square.

     

    Because you are arbitrarily assigning meaning to the meaningless.

     

     

     

  5. dimensionally-sound equation

    http://www.av8n.com/physics/dimensional-analysis.htm

     

    On another note:

    PLEASE KEEP AWAY FROM ME! I have already reported your very offensive name under your avatar!

    If you were thinking that typing this would clear up any confusion, you're sadly mistaken.

     

    What's a "demonsionally sound values"? Sounds like something that would come out of a guitar being played by the Pick of destiny

     

    PLEASE KEEP AWAY FROM ME! I have already reported your very offensive name under your avatar!

    cool, any high school student can now consider themselves a mathematician.

     

    PLEASE KEEP AWAY FROM ME! I have already reported your very offensive name under your avatar!

    nothing to it:

     

    [math] x = \sqrt{92y^{2} + 1}[/math] for any y

  6. Was it not you that created that wonderful "decipher" of my magical square???

     

    With vector "lines" that showed a type of measure????

     

     

    Interesting, however, this is a topic on number theory, magical squares and etc, why all the fuss about numerology???

     

     

     

     

     

    It's numerology, plain and simple. Take totally unrelated things, do arbitrary mathematics on them until you get an answer that is close enough to your desired outcome and voila! Proof!!!!1!!11

     

    Gee I don't know, you have done a great job to insult all my posts, you tell me.....

    This is complete gibberish.

     

    Are you writing in English?

     

    With all do respect, none have forced anyone on these topics, if they are unclear, you are more than welcome to proceed to something that is...

     

    This may help you in the mean time:

     

    Motion is always relative to something and you get to pick whatever that something is when you are solving a problem or doing a calculation.

     

    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Motion_is_relative_to_what

     

     

     

    Not only are these lines not relevant to anything in this thread (that I can determine), they're not even relevant to each other.

     

    Are you being deliberately obscure in the hopes you'll "win" when we all give up and go do something else?

  7. Maybe this is why you do not understand things:

     

     

     

    Hidden variable theory

     

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidden_variable_theory

     

    Particle Wave... Science still has no idea why this is.

     

     

    I think the relevant thing is this:

     

    Science has no idea what the EFE are relative to, So, they have no idea about the size color and or shape of anything on this planet.

     

    Communication is a design intended for those whom study the "trend."

     

    Everyone can have sex without communication, it is universal, music to is universal, art is universal.

     

    I think it is obvious that the 'speculations" are do to the fact that people seldom want to admit they may be wrong about the things they know of.

     

    Max Plank was scrutinized for his work in math models:

    http://milesmathis.com/planck.html

     

    Envy, Envy, Envy, wow!

     

     

    It is interesting how the same biasses towards numbers is not applicable to money and monetary systems when infact that to is a number theory in itself that even I will never understand....

     

    Nothing personal as long as I know I am wrong I will always search for the correct way.

    What does moving a speculative thread to the Speculations section have to do with people other than the person you quoted responding to your posts? It doesn't make sense.

     

    If this is the way you communicate when you have time to be thoughtful, I can't imagine what a verbal conversation with you is like. I don't really mean to make this personal, but when so many people are telling you that you're not making sense, it seems pretty obvious where the fault lies.

     

     

     

  8. What I "think" this has relation to is the center of mass like pi ratio for example

     

    What I mean about precession can be seen here as an example:

     

    0.104384134 * 9.58 = 1

     

    http://www.calculate...e.com/sci1.html

    0.104384134*9.58 = 1.00000000372<----- you see those zeros? There are not supposed to be there. This is a precession and accuracy problem known as round off errors.

    Precession is defined by a systems inaccuracy and accuracy in calculations. Instead of an average "finding", some mathematics can be precise, "again" independent from the system that measures it. Again this is a perfect example: 0.104384134 * 9.58 = 1 and 0.104384134*9.58 = 1.00000000372, one is precesise the other is not. I found how to do this by the way, I am precise with anything I calculate. To bad this does no apply to "money" otherwise we would all have a dollar extra for every buck we spend!

     

    Round off errors.

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/42980

     

     

     

     

    So, just as zero and 1 both define empty space so does pecession in its explained form here. 1 and -1 are precession they are located in exponents of numbers.

     

    Electrons have no relation to the center of mass, but this may be wrong due to precession calculations and or functions that need an upgrade.

     

    Since the discovery of the h constant we are now far more advance, imagine now how we can be precise!!!!!!!!!!

     

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    One is a number. It represents nothing in and of itself.

     

     

    I don't understand what you mean. Your x and y values are not compatible with the formula you are trying to use. As I have shown, given your x, your y is invalid. What are the units on the two numbers you are using?

     

     

    I do not understand what you mean by precession in an exponential way. Perhaps you are using the wrong word.

     

     

    That's just silly. We've already shown how either x or y in [math] x^{2}- 92 \: y^{2}=1[/math] can equal zero. My understanding of what you are trying to prove is equal to zero. The number of Lamborghinis I own is equal to zero.

     

     

     

    Congratulations, you assembled a string of alphanumeric symbols. What meaning are you trying to convey?

  9. You must not read the entire post here, me and another member have been speaking about the "same" demonsionally sound values I place earlier..... Sorry for the confusion..

     

     

    Ok, I am going to lose my patience in a minute.

     

    Did it not occur to you at some point that we might need to know what x and y stood for, since you had already assigned them values?

     

     

     

     

     

     

    That 1 here represent a cycle of precession demonsionally sound in alpha numerics but not only in this fashion...

    1 represent a cycle for x, the - 1 is a cycle that is quite large....

     

    However, I have not seen anything close to my values given. Would you like to participate using values such as I?

     

     

    Thanks!

    One is a number. It represents nothing in and of itself.

     

     

    I don't understand what you mean. Your x and y values are not compatible with the formula you are trying to use. As I have shown, given your x, your y is invalid. What are the units on the two numbers you are using?

     

     

    I do not understand what you mean by precession in an exponential way. Perhaps you are using the wrong word.

     

     

    That's just silly. We've already shown how either x or y in [math] x^{2}- 92 \: y^{2}=1[/math] can equal zero. My understanding of what you are trying to prove is equal to zero. The number of Lamborghinis I own is equal to zero.

     

     

     

    Congratulations, you assembled a string of alphanumeric symbols. What meaning are you trying to convey?

     

     

     

  10. What does 1 represent though? I am confused on your explanation. Does it represent .5?

    If you're referring to the values of x that would yield imaginary results, it would be anything -1 < x < 1. Both 1 and -1 one would yield answers of 0, if I am doing the math right.

     

    Let x = 0:

    [math] y=\sqrt{\frac{0^{2} - 1}{92}}[/math]

    [math] y=\sqrt{\frac{-1}{92}}[/math]

    [math] y=\frac{\sqrt{-1}}{\sqrt{92}}[/math]

    [math] y=\frac{i}{2\sqrt{23}}[/math]

     

    Let x = -1:

    [math] y=\sqrt{\frac{-1^{2} - 1}{92}}[/math]

    [math] y=\sqrt{\frac{1 - 1}{92}}[/math]

    [math] y=\sqrt{\frac{0}{92}}[/math]

    [math] y=\sqrt{0}[/math]

    [math] y=0[/math]

     

    The same also holds true for x = 1

  11. What does 1 represent to you guys though??

     

    My x and my y values represent the speed of light to a precession as its - exponent..

    Meaning that -1 or +1 = precession in a exponential way...

    Nothing can = 0 from what I know.

     

     

    c/ x17403623434808744+y2712253364740.28 = 1.72231803046111e-14

     

     

    If you're referring to the values of x that would yield imaginary results, it would be anything -1 < x < 1. Both 1 and -1 one would yield answers of 0, if I am doing the math right.

     

    Let x = 0:

    [math] y=\sqrt{\frac{0^{2} - 1}{92}}[/math]

    [math] y=\sqrt{\frac{-1}{92}}[/math]

    [math] y=\frac{\sqrt{-1}}{\sqrt{92}}[/math]

    [math] y=\frac{i}{2\sqrt{23}}[/math]

     

    Let x = -1:

    [math] y=\sqrt{\frac{-1^{2} - 1}{92}}[/math]

    [math] y=\sqrt{\frac{1 - 1}{92}}[/math]

    [math] y=\sqrt{\frac{0}{92}}[/math]

    [math] y=\sqrt{0}[/math]

    [math] y=0[/math]

     

    The same also holds true for x = 1

     

     

     

  12. Y is completely fine:

    http://www3.wolframa...s=29&w=249&h=65

     

    It states in this link that the exact result is denominator of 2..

     

    This here is my proof for the constant of 2

    Given your value for x, your value for y is incorrect.

     

    [math] x^{2}- 92 \: y^{2}=1[/math]

     

    [math]y = \sqrt{\frac{x^{2}-1}{92}}[/math]

     

    [math]y = \sqrt{\frac{17403623434808744 ^{2}-1}{92}}[/math]

     

    [math]y \approx \pm 1814453171489560[/math]

     

    Wolfram Alpha calculation

     

    EDIT: corrected LaTeX notation

     

     

     

  13. You state that The connection is tenuous at best. This here proves that magical squares can be further researched.

     

    About QM operators:

     

    http://hyperphysics....tum/qmoper.html

     

    This states QM operators are in relation to waves.

    I am sure when I say that waves also have in them, circles, sin, cos, and tangents. Also vectors are no different, they create straight lines for their construction. Waves then are used to research topology and etc.

     

     

    In this example I have given on magical squares, the arrangement is meant to have 180 degree symmetry. It has already been stated by another member. This has position in space time, and forms a square, 'general idea' like an identity.

     

     

    The Wave Function a "good example here"" CREATES A SQUARING TOO" in where the "probability" to find the particle is greater in the square.

     

     

    Weather this is true or not about the wave function whom knows, the point is further speaking about this to the science community and stretching our minds to find better methods and approaches to number theory....

     

    I believe in theory that 2 is constant because an exponent can also be represented as a 2x2 matrix,3x3 matrix and etc.

    Magical squares are just that, they exist in the "squaring of empty space" Remember numbers are a concept not to be taken literally.They give an idea and or relation. In this case a matching sequence....

     

     

     

     

     

    I can "try to create one using

     

    On the contrary. Several have listened, only to conclude that your complaints are without merit.

     

     

     

    The Bell Paper you linked to clearly states that the product of the columns is I or -I (the identity operator).

     

     

    You are adding numbers — numbers, not QM operators — in your example. The connection is tenuous at best. These aren't the magic squares you are looking for.

     

     

     

    I see. We're back to center of mass and E=mc^2. I still don't see a connection.

     

     

     

    It's nonsense. That kinda puts a damper on understanding it.

     

     

     

     

    Perhaps you can share that to the Moderator whom place My Post here.... wink.gif

    I think you may be looking for the science dialogue forum two doors down from us. This is the science discussion forum, and often (read as "practically always") involves multiple members who are ALWAYS welcome to chime in on any topic.

     

    HERE IS THE PROOF OF MY MAGICAL SQUARE.

     

     

     

    The reason why "my" square here works is because of this:

     

     

    [sum of all numbers in the squares spaces = 30] / [squares spaces 16] = 1.875= 0.005208333 revolution

     

     

    If the total mass of the electrons in an object is about 1/2000 of the mass of the object, as per other member's have stated, then my finding in my magical square is = to 1/2000 0.005208333 revolution

     

    Then the precession are bases of ten:

     

     

    1/2000 = 0.0005

     

     

    0.005208333/0.0005 = 10.416666

     

     

     

    I was wondering how to do this with a simple rock experiment, but obviously I was misunderstood.

     

    As you can see, no one realized this about "my" magical square. This is why to me talk is cheap, I am providing mathematical proofs, concepts and ideas, = I am doing all the work, while others are doing all the "speculation."

     

    I can do this with anything science has a name for by the way, this is only 1 example of the billions I know.

     

    Now that it is confirmed here that their is a relation to mass, electrons, and 0 as the "center of mass" maybe this can be used as a positioning system far more advanced than the wave function is capable of, I am hoping to see some examples that use values and or numbers in the them by other members whom have commented on this Post.

     

    I will wait for now.

     

     

    I have a question, and I'll put it in it's most generalized form.

     

    Does any of this have anything to do with anything?

     

     

  14. Yes you are correct with this: [math] x^{2}- 92 \: y^{2}=1[/math]

     

     

    Ok, here are two dimensionally sound values of my personal "try" at this.

    These units are "sound" with Cosmic Rays, Beta, and Gamma. So that:

     

    Cosmic rays * [beta .866*gamma .5 c]

     

    x= 17403623434808744

     

    y=2712253364740.28

     

    NOTE PLEASE. This does not mean that I have done this correctly, it was my "personal" simple attempt in the challenge for:

     

    A person who can solve x2 − 92y2 = 1 in less than a year is a mathematician.

     

     

    Brahmaguptahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmagupta's_formula

     

    I think I did pretty good though...

     

     

     

    Is that [math] x^{2}- 92 \: y^{2}=1[/math]?

     

    If so given values of [math]x[/math] we can always construct values for [math]y[/math].

     

    Actually anyone can do this, just show us how "you" can prove this to be = h as discrete values of energy = 1 or even just 1 in general.

     

    I already provided an example and would like others to participate using "numerical representations"

     

    Thanks!

    cool, any high school student can now consider themselves a mathematician.

  15. As usual here, when one replies someone else answers, I have complained about this, but obviously no one here listens.

     

     

    Talk is talk, walk your walk.... Please disprove this in some type of math, and or "MAGICAL SQUARE" representation while keeping 0= 1

    I am not impressed with the you this you that anymore excuses excuses.

     

     

    The point that I am trying to make here is the "why" behind, 2 being a constant, and 0.5*c = 1/2 c.

    This is basically the point, that point is that 0=1 the center of mass E=mc squared.

     

    What is so hard to understand about this???

    You are all smarter then me, I think I may be teaching people things in the background....

     

     

     

    Well, disprove this in some type of math " whom ever you are" , using a "MAGICAL SQUARE" representation while keeping 0= 1

     

    CAN YOU DO THIS?????

     

     

    Yes, really. Googling for magic square quantum (or similar) to find sites that have those words is not sufficient. Your link to Bell's theorem ignores the fact that the "magic square" in that paper is a product, not a sum, and has actual QM significance. The link to the marketing page just has "magic of numbers" in it as matching text, and nothing to do with magic squares or QM.

     

    I will also note that you posted these links after the fact. Your OP makes no connection whatsoever to QM,so an observation to that effect is not inappropriate. While a more fleshed-out, constructive criticism might have been better, you really need to stop complaining about being criticized and do a better job of making your point clear.

     

    A person who can solve x2 − 92y2 = 1 in less than a year is a mathematician.

     

     

     

    Brahmagupta

    http://en.wikipedia....iki/Brahmagupta

     

     

     

     

    So I guess 1 = the quantum of action???????

     

    The "newly" discovered quantum of action?????????????????????? WOW!

     

     

    This has nothing to due with quantum theory, and should be in speculations.

  16. The argument here is keeping the entire magical square "here" intact. Meaning that another square should be used to disprove the one here in my OP....

     

     

     

    This will stop comments such as numerology and etc.....These are excuses, not proofs....

    I am looking forward for numerology to be the basis of this topic, when in fact it is not even close.....

     

    I assure you....

     

     

    You did a great job already, its a shame you feel you need to bow out.

     

    Thanks!

     

     

     

     

     

    Architekt- I don't understand the connection between some of the links you posted and the magic square. Would you care to elaborate? Also, a lot of the links are to downloadable pdfs. Is there any way you could host them on a free image hosting service like photobucket and then include the image in your post rather than requiring readers to download a file?

     

    I cannot comment on Bell's theorem as I don't feel like I understand it or how you feel it is connected to magic squares.

     

    I don't think in this case that 1 represents anything, it could just as easily have been 2, 497, or any other integer.

     

    The lines are just the order in which the table is filled. The inverse square law is a physical law describing certain phenomenon, such as gravity, where the measured property is inversely proportional to the square of the distance. It is not applicable to a table of numbers.

     

    EDIT: You edited your post as I was responding. I honestly don't see what significance you are placing in this arrangement of numbers, but I'm not one for numerology either, so perhaps it's best if I bow out now.

  17. thanks for your reply, NICE MODEL!

     

    The issue is what does this 1 represent and what is it relative to????

     

     

    I have read much about Bells Theorem, But am still very scratchy on the technical side of science "formulas."

     

     

    Now, looking at your model, (which is better than mine) I am noticing that the 'lines" seems to refer to something like an inverse square law, do you agree?

     

    I see this on the image to the left hand side. The symmetry you speak of is what I am referring to as this inverse square law in relation to seconds / seconds, like a squaring of time in where 2 is constant as in a "squared number." This is my guess only here.

     

     

    This is only an idea that I have about how squared numbers when placed in a magical squares makes zero = 1. just as you stated...

     

    Again, you stated this "if you want to get rid of the zero, add 1 to every value and the "magic" remains."

    The issue is what does this 1 represent and what is it relative to???? And mostly what is the magic?

     

    I have no idea.....

     

     

    But here is an idea about the 2 of which stays constant:

     

     

     

    12+13+14+15 = 54

     

     

    1+2+3 = 6

     

     

    54/6 = 9

     

     

     

    6^2 = 36

     

     

    9^2 = 81

     

     

    36/81 = 0.44444444444444

     

    1/0.44444444444444 = 2.25000000000002

     

    1/2.25000000000002 = 0.44444444444444

     

     

     

    0.44444444444444^2 = 0.19753086419753

     

     

    1/0.19753086419753 = 5.06250000000002

     

    But here I see much jumping in and out in increments of 2, but then they change after the numerator 4.

    My guess is because the 2 stays constant. Could this be how quantum mechanical issues get resolved?

     

     

     

    1/0.4444444444444 = 2.25000000000023

     

     

    2/0.4444444444444 = 4.50000000000045

     

     

    3/0.4444444444444 = 6.75000000000068

     

     

    4/0.4444444444444 = 9.0000000000009

     

     

     

    5/0.4444444444444 = 11.25000000000111

     

     

    6/0.4444444444444 = 13.50000000000135

     

     

    7/0.4444444444444 = 15.75000000000157

     

     

    8/0.4444444444444 = 18.0000000000018

     

     

    9/0.4444444444444 = 20.25000000000203

     

     

    10/0.4444444444444 = 22.50000000000225

     

    Nothing special here. If you want to get rid of the zero, add 1 to every value and the "magic" remains.

     

     

     

    In fact, there's nothing magical at all about this arrangements of numbers. I don't know the proper terminology to explain this correctly, but perhaps I can get my point across this way.

    The arrangement is meant to have 180o symmetry.

    00 + 15 = 01 + 14 = 02 + 13 = 03 + 12=

    04 + 11 = 05 + 10 = 06 + 09 = 07 + 08

     

    The red arrows represent the first of each pair above, and the blue arrows represent the second. I think, and someone should be able to prove mathematically, but it is beyond my ability to do so, that as long as the red and blue arrows are 1800 rotations, any particular arrow patterns will work to make a "magic square". Note that I made two groups of arrows where one would have sufficed in order to make my point more clear.

     

    MagicSquare.jpg

  18. REALLY?

     

    THE MAGIC SQUARES AND ---->BELL'S THEOREM

     

    http://users.wpi.edu...ns/MSQUARE5.pdf

     

    Looks like you may be wrong Sir....I think it is best, to let the Staff Decide, if this should be moved to Speculations, provided that I have links here that support this. However, if this does get moved to Speculations, then so should Bell's Theorem...

     

    Thanks for your concern...

     

     

     

     

    phenomenon in quantum game theory

    http://en.wikipedia....seudo-telepathy

     

     

     

    Magic, Mystery, and

    Matrix

    http://www.sns.ias.e.../papers/mmm.pdf

     

     

     

     

    Centre for Quantum Technologies

     

     

    http://www.quantumla...symposium09.php

     

     

     

     

    Magic Numbers in Market Research | Newsletters | Versta Research

     

    http://www.verstares...t-research.html

     

     

     

     

    Centered Square Number

     

    http://mathworld.wol...uareNumber.html

     

    This has nothing to due with quantum theory, and should be in speculations.

  19. 0 14 13 3

     

    11 5 6 8

     

    7 9 10 4

     

    12 2 1 15

     

     

     

    Note: need help with creating a "latex" grid for the numbers....

     

    If numbers are true forms for generalizing something used by science, can magical squares also generalize the idea of zero?

    In my opinion, I think they can really help the science world to discover more areas of research!

     

    I have notice that in some magical squares 0 can be used as a number. Why I do not know as of yet, and what does 0 generalize I also do nor know as of yet...

     

     

    Infact this one here shows that 0 " appears" to have some value.

     

    Of coarse adding the numbers across or diagonally = 30 including the zero.

     

    I am wondering what the science world can gain, if these magical squares can be of help..

     

    Hope you enjoy this!

  20. Thanks for your time and typing this in an way that is much more understanding to me. I will take your advice so thanks on this, I will stick around....

     

     

    Ok, I have read through that thread and this is my evaluation:

     

    Generally the members here are very knowledgeable about the topics they discuss, some because of interest, many because of graduate studies, and many because they work in the field they are discussing. Because they are very knowledgeable they quickly identify problems that come up in people's posts. If they think you are wrong they will tell you. If they are unsure what you are saying they will ask questions. And because people are people, sometimes they get frustrated and appear less friendly.

     

    I suspect that you have a lot of potential in science but little formal education. Because you are curious you ask a lot of questions. Because you have little formal education many of your questions cannot be answered as they were asked. This results in people telling you if they think you are wrong and asking you questions if they are unsure what you are saying. And you being a person, sometimes you get frustrated and appear less friendly.

     

    Because of the difference in education levels it is my opinion that conversations between you and many of the other members of this site are not going to be fruitful. I'm afraid you are in over your head. If you hang around and listen in (like I do a lot) you will likely learn much. Ask questions when you'd like, but if people claim they don't understand what you are talking about, it is probably because what you are saying doesn't make sense the way you said it. You would probably be better off investigating it further yourself and trying again later when you know the material better.

     

    I believe you are mistaken that people are using the identity of others in responding to you. I think what you were saying wasn't clear to any of them and so they all responded in the same manner. I admit that what you said wasn't clear to me either.

     

    Please don't take any of this as an attack on you personally. I think your interest in science is commendable but you are trying to participate at a level that is above your head. It is my hope that you stick around and that eventually you will be able to help people learn in the future as much as you can learn now.

     

    One of the things you'll find around here is that people speak their minds. It may not be pleasant all the time but it is usually not personal. That is just the way conversation goes at this level. It generally works better if you try not to take offense.

     

     

     

  21. Never said that they were connected, but that doesn't mean that its not possible, maybe I communicated the possibility wrong and will work on this more later as I become aware of science terms.

     

     

     

     

    thanks...

     

     

     

    You could find out more about the details, but in the absence of that: yes. If you're asking, it's because you don't know. It's great that you're asking. But it doesn't put you in a position to make a pronouncement on the answers you are given.

     

    The mass of an electron, or of all the electrons, is indeed independent of its/their position.

     

     

     

    Because nobody could figure out what you were talking about. You were insisting that there was a connection, rather than asking if there was one. That makes a lot of difference in how people respond to you.

     

     

     

  22. Well it sure feels like it lately....Thanks for the link.....

    The user title system is automatic, based on postcount, and has existed on SFN for ten years. Nobody chose to declare you a meson to punish you.

     

    http://www.sciencefo...04-user-titles/

     

     

     

     

    well lets hope this does not happen otherwise you will have problems in this forum.....

    Yeah I can't wait for my designation to be God... :rolleyes:

  23. yes I have been told this already, but this still does not change the fact on whom I replied to.. I replied to someone named Zapatos...

    I though they were looking at the mess of my other post....

     

    Uhhh forget this, now I am confused on whom is who.....

     

     

    No, really, it's not.

     

     

     

     

    User title badges are automatically incremented at certain thresholds of numbers of posts. Pretty much everybody here with >50 posts has been a meson.

     

     

     

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