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  1. I don't know if mainstream is the right word but religious institutions are not for me. Too many people have been bogged down/dragged down by dogmatism and insistence on the rituals of religion. I want to worship an intelligence that can create a Universe with my tiny part in it. I don't think that there needs to be a priest as a middleman.
  2. Fascinating topic. Do they smell the breath of the person and are the more sensitive dogs selected and then trained in an action when they smell outliers, e.g. to paw at the person?
  3. I think that you know that I believe in a soul and that the soul, by its actions which affect others then reaches spiritual evolution through life until the final reward, or punishment. I am a Theist with personal opinions outside the mainstream. Another opinion, no-one is wholly atheistic or totally a believer. Even Richard Dawkins is probably about 99% atheistic. Interesting topic.
  4. That is a brave worldview, to have no fear or doubt. I just live between fear and hope. You must have gone round this block many times as I have. To stop yourself from getting bored just plug into your heavy metal and forget everything.
  5. I didn't answer this because I didn't know what extant meant. Now that I know, I am not sure that psychological/physiological phenomena are emergent processes (epiphenomenological). I think it is a good theoretical framework to explain how thoughts and actions arise but events like long term potentiation (memory) occur. I am quite interested in Penrose and Hameroff's theory of consciousness http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24070914 where the role of a soul in providing qualia (single unified thoughts, e.g. "Oh, good! Ice cream") allows for a soul to be involved in the processs of conscious behaviour by influencing neuronal outputs in the brain. That was my main aim. I was hoping that Science would be able to explain, or not explain, out of body experiences and then means would be encouraged to measure a "proto-soul". Sorry to answer for DrmDoc, he can certainly answer for himself. But I thought that animals are purely instinctive beings with a consciousness without the ability to rise above their instincts or to negate what their instincts tell them. We have: 1. Complex language; 2. thoughts that can reflect on the thinking process; 3. A unified sense of self/ego for the most of humanity, although there are anomalies. I am not trying to patronise you here or to be pedantic and I apologise if I sound that way. There are obviously faith groups who believe in metempsychosis, but I don't know anything about this topic. That is the tough question. If a soul is like a rewriteable CD and carries the right and wrong actions of a human being and then prepares to evolve to an afterlife soul that is enlightened, then, to a certain segment of the world population, the answer would be yes. It is the battlefield of the soul that provides the domain of faith. However, there are also agnostic atheists who want to believe in a "soul". Actually, to be honest, I only exchanged comments with one, but he seemed to believe in a soul-driven existence without faith involved. I don't really know the answer. What is the alternative? Mind-body states interacting with each other? From what I have read, scientists have identified parts of the brain in great detail for doing "a", "b" or "c". However, what is the cause to the effect? Just sensory information? There are more questions than answers for me personally.
  6. From that paper Moontanman, This seems to bring out hope for some sort of life form. Our cells have a protective useful fat-based (phospholipid membrane). In methane, it is possible that acrylonitrile forms membrane-like structures like bubbles (liposomes) that they called azotosomes at such low temperatures (-180 Celsius or so). the simulations could show a potential cell membrane, which could allow protection for cell reactions, which are useful for life to form. So, the search for life could be much wider than we previously thought. Was that the main aim for the O.P.?
  7. I have stated my thoughts several times. If you read them Tampitump, come back and let's continue in a civil and friendly way. If you find my views incomprehensible then fine! They are what they are.
  8. Moontanman, this evidence about something unusual on Titan is six years old. Is there any update? http://www.nasa.gov/topics/solarsystem/features/titan20100603.html Artistic rendering of Titan's surface. Awe inspiring!
  9. I always thought Boric acid powder embedded in flour dough and placed as doughballs everywhere would do the trick, unless my heart medicines are making me hallucinate and imagine things which have never existed. Get back to you on this... I didn't imagine it! Here it is: http://tipnut.com/how-to-get-rid-of-cockroaches-roach-ball-recipe/
  10. Exactly so. I deliberately referred to cardiac arrest because I don't think anyone in the whole of humanity has returned to life after brain functions have collapsed.
  11. Hi,Memammal, I needed a break from the intense atmosphere here for a couple of days. However, I was not trying to ignore you. I think I will end up repeating what I have been saying all along which is a personal belief, based on my limited understanding and reasoning and also following my education. I have doubts, I have asked myself questions which I cannot answer. As far as I can ascertain, the Abrahamic God Yahweh, Ela/Allah are the same. It was the God that called Moses to duty. I am not going to argue that one religion gave rise to the later two. Let people believe what they want to, as a fundamental human right. IMO, I disagree with the idea of an interfering God. However, I do believe in the illusion of freewill which provides a sufficient condition for a choice which then has consequences which are specific to the choice (this sounds more and more like Harry Potter, I know). IMO, God made the Universe as a single act in which everything was predetermined. My prayers which get answered or not, all predetermined. The creation of evil people to show others what is good, predetermined. This is my personal opinion. http://www.islamweb.net/en/article/113432/ Besides, even if most of these things weren't due to religion, religion still does not help things. They are debunked beliefs, based on debunked books, with debunked principles. You have to split hairs to find any teachings in them that are even useful or positive to modern civilization. Even the good parts are nothing special and don't offer any teachings that we don't already know or couldn't have derived from some other source or just through living and learning. Let's say you inherit a desert island which has a small population, like Diego Garcia and you are the boss. What are you as a human, showing human behaviour (which preceded religious behaviour) going to do on that island to sustain peace and order. Then, if you have a revelation from a higher, more perfect authority, what would you do? You would put the equivalent of the ten commandments in place, right? Now if there was a war between your island and a neighbouring island, which laws would you put in place to allow humane behaviour? Of course you see the point. You seem angry at religion but it is a human right to have a belief - even in a same-religion group of people there will be a whole spectrum of beliefs. Please don't blame all for the actions of a few. MigL, thank you man. I am isolated in having to be a spokesman for religion, when even I believe that priesthood/rabbihood and imamhood are totally unnecessary when a human needs to commune with God by himself/herself. I am deeply concerned how religious institutions become so easily corruptible and responsible for misguided beliefs in my opinion.
  12. I am quite upset. I had hoped that Near Death Experiences (where patients in hospitals have been resuscitated following cardiac arrest) would provide enough evidence to show that there is an ego/soul/self that leaves the body after heart stoppage and then returns during resuscitation. Unfortunately, there is a very small number of anecdotal accounts and the evidence is that these experiences occur in the brain. First the anecdotal evidence: http://iands.org/resources/media-resources/front-page-news/1060-aware-study-initial-results-are-published.html The sample number is one, and the evidence is not strong, but, if these findings are replicated across the world, then it seems to indicate a "self" with some sensory capacity leaving the body. However, Science says: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/real-outof-body-experiences/# and: This particular "evidence" comes from a website calling itself the scientifically elegant "sploid gizmo" so I don't account for its veracity. http://sploid.gizmodo.com/scientists-unlock-mystery-of-woman-who-sees-herself-out-1538196076 I hope that others who believe in a spirit or soul can add to this particular study and that the Science can be critically evaluated. I am deliberately posting in Speculations due to the nature of the material.
  13. That paper was from 2008 buddy. Hardly a relevant new topic for the Science News thread. If you can update scientific news or comments please come back and elucidate or extend your arguments.
  14. Yes it is happening. Two of my friends (one a political activist on the "Left" side of the political spectrum) and another (former Ministry of Defence IT scientist) have complained about hearing voices and then also feeling body pains unaccountably. The voices are designed to frighten - for example, one of them is told the exact amount of his electricity bill to the nearest penny before he opens his letter. Another is teased about his marriage or asked to be a better Christian etc...As far as I can ascertain, the two men are sane and have not undergone treatment for mental health issues. They have told me that this is a post MK Ultra experiment on large proportions of the public which is covered by Black Ops. However, if this is happening (as they say) at an accelerated scale worldwide, then this has to stop. Human rights include a right not to be tortured.
  15. Enya? You are kidding Stringy? Normally I would listen to something that would rock hard - Guns N Roses, Gun,Thunder, UFO, Metallica, Dream Theater...But Enya? What happened? Even on a dark day I would never play this stuff. . If there are Enya fans out there I apologise to both of you.
  16. Moontanman, these are the best answers I can give from my knowledge and my knowledge is definitely lacking. Our society has evolved to become different although the murder rates around the world suggest that human nature/behaviour has not changed. I cannot apologise for what God said or why. But at least I am trying to be bloody honest friend. I think that we are now at the point here t which my answers are exhausted and we will go round and round to a standstill. I cannot answer fr God because I don't have the viewpoint of a Creator. I have the limited view and limited knowledge of a creation. Religious people have a different view of God than atheists do, it is a certainty because we are not tied to the material but the spiritual. When I looked into the face of my children when they were born, I did not think "ah, sentient meat without a soul" I saw a soul and a spark in their eyes. The love I felt for them did not come from a temporary chemical imbalance, I felt it in my gut to my soul. I am sorry I could not answer your questions friend. Maybe I have to read a bit more.
  17. I am assuming that the paper is restricted to photosynthetic bacteria making carbohydrates and other macromolecules (proteins, fats) in bacterial form that turns methane into hydrogen and carbohydrate. they mention Earth bacteria as analogues and extend the argument. Algae are not mentioned clearly - I assumed that one. Sorry.
  18. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4284464/ This could be the biosignature which, if identified, could change the history of our planet - low carbon dioxide, ammonia and hydrogen together as a ratio could indicate a form of life, especially if the gas composition fluctuates, as methane is consumed by alien photosynthetic bacteria or algae. So, if I read it correctly, we would need a rocky planet, with similar mineral composition to the Earth and the presence of simple organisms could utilise the light from their close Sun-like star to turn methane into atmospheric hydrogen. and biomass in the form of carbohydrate. Just one word: WOW!
  19. I am giving up metal and rock and now listening to dub and gentle tunes

    1. jimmydasaint

      jimmydasaint

      Ha! Don't worry, just a passing phase then back to Blackfoot (amazingly loud live), Skynyrd, AC/DC, UFO and some good, good rockin'.

    2. Moontanman

      Moontanman

      I am an old school audiophile, Infinity speakers, yamaha amp.

    3. jimmydasaint

      jimmydasaint

      You lucky man. On a teacher's wage, a cheap music centre thing is all I can make do with. Bills take up all my time.

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  20. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4284464/ Exciting news guys. With hydrogen gas so widely spread, it may just be possible that living things with a large surface area:volume ratio could diffuse methane across their surface and turn out hydrogen as a by-product. However, bacteria or singe celled organisms would be dominant and not some multicellular floozy waiting to seduce a future Captain Kirk . However, from my sketchy reading, which could be incorrect as I as having a conversation at the same time, the composition of these planets needs to have a mineral content similar to that of Earth. The reason for a thin layer of atmosphere is justified above.
  21. A society that is nascent would presumably require some direction. A prophet figure would be the channel of Divine revelation to the masses in was it could be understood. I am pretty sure that there were many "prophets" claiming Divine knowledge at the same time as the Bible was revealed. those that were false would confuse the message. At the time, the punishments were not as enlightened as those handed out today. Just my opinion. If you read religion carefully, God is served by serving humanity. If that concept has been messed up, it is due to the short-sightedness of believers. Thank you for that reasonable opinion mate. Each society needs rules. Tacitus writing about First Century A.D. Germany mentioned the rules that the largest tribes had to moderate extremes of behaviour. Most of them advocated death for those that showed any deviancy from the acceptable, verbally articulated norm. When religious authorities do the same, they are criticised but remember that they also have to regulate societies and unite them by a common belief system. Some religious and non-religious people are despicable. I cannot comment on something or somebody whose words I have never heard. If I had to summarise my views, I would state: 1. Religion suffered from having a privileged class called priests. Individual peccadilloes became justified under the flag of religion unjustly. 2. A study of Rome in the times of Caligula and Tiberius will tell you that excesses of deviancy have always existed in society. human nature tends to be cruel. 3. Institutionalisation of religion has led to perversion of the original message in some cases. 4. Science and religion should not be totally opposed to each other. Science is a way of finding objective truth and should be embraced by religion. However Science needs to be objective and follow the conclusions of the Science to a logical end and not to support atheistic motif. 5. Human societies have always needed rules and the rules sometimes (or most of the times) have led to the death of those who showed extremes of behaviour. All the above are my personal opinions as a follower of the Abrahamic God.
  22. Andrew, we are drawing a conclusion about Popes or religious authorities misusing power in the name of religion. Secular rulers have also misused power throughout history. I will try to find out a couple of names later and edit them in. The Popes, Catholic priests, other Abrahamic faiths etc... have always had people who twisted an ideal or an absolute idea and have justified their twisted logic. Where they have used this twisted logic to kill those who did not share their religion, e.g. witches, this is not a religious absolute, it is a form of extremist logic. In the hands of the powerful, it is a poison to society and a divisive influence. However, let's posit that God wished a people to prosper as a society. To allow society to be unified and act as a cogent unit, there had to be a control to excesses. These absolutes required to punish those that committed excesses. People would then live in a moderate environment, something like the Aristotlean golden mean. Rulers who were corrupt and sought to increase their power by rising to power increased their corruption as a consequence. A person who had to lie, bribe and cheat to rise to the top has to reclaim his money somehow and then religion becomes a mask for corruption. As far as the 10 Commandments, for a primitive society of farmers, that is going to form an early civilisation, I believe that you are being over-fussy with the commandments. Are they good enough to form a society - yes they are. I have reproduced them below, for the sake of brevity:
  23. Frankly Moontanman, I am surprised you di not mention some of the other Popes who behaved like depraved animals. I was horrified to read about the seriously disgusting actions that they performed whilst in leadership. Was it religious belief that allowed them paedophilia, bestiality and other corrupt actions? That is my central point, and you know it. You did pick on some of the worst examples of human beings if we can call them that. If you had a choice to punish their actions,what would you do? In 2016, come on, what would you do to a paedophile and defiler of innocent human beings? Be honest here. I would have them imprisoned for life. These guys misused religion for personal means. Thank you for your thoughts and condolences on my troubles. I think I have held things in and then stopped exercising leading to my present lamentable demise. However, this is typical of Northern British people who tend to be so tight-assed with their problems that coal becomes diamond in their trousers....
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