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  1. There is hardly any information on copper II borate on the web. Wikipedia has just a picture of the compound. I'm interested in making it... it's my goal to make all possible combination of copper based chemicals. Can someone help me out?

     

    Here's what I've done so far. I've got a solution of copper II sulfate and mixed it with a solution of sodium borate (borax). This produces sodium sulfate in solution while copper II borate (or tetraborate?) ppt. Am I correct in this?

     

    Is there another way of making copper II borate? (ie. boric acid and copper carbonate??)

    Any help would be appreciated. thanks in advance.

     

     

  2. Does anyone have any experience making copper II acetate? I can think of two ways.

    the first way is to react copper II carbonate with white distilled vinegar but that is going to require alot of vinegar.

    the second way is to react ammonia solution with copper sulfate and then add some sodium hydroxide followed by

    vinegar. Does anyone have other suggestion that might give a good yield?

  3. To VetteLover

     

    thanks alot for your suggestion. I have barium chlorate so I'll try that this coming weekend.

     

     

    Jamit37,

     

    Here is a fool-proof way to get your copper chlorate solution:

     

    Order a pound of barium chlorate from a fireworks supplier; the stuff is cheap, and is carried by ANY fireworks supplier worth their, ahem, salt. While you're at it, unless you have some laying around, grab some copper sulfate too. This will come as the pentahydrate, though it will not be advertised as such. Your reaction will rely on the fact that barium sulfate is practically insoluble in water; in fact, to my knowledge, it is the only barium salt one can ingest without fear of death. It is used in barium enemas for this reason.

     

    Here is your procedure:

     

    Dissolve both salts in distilled water, such that the mass ratio of the two will be 1.218 parts barium chlorate to one part copper sulfate pentahydrate. When both are completely in solution, add the barium chlorate to the copper sulfate, and watch the barium sulfate immediately precipitate out of solution, as you add the two parts together. The barium salt being the heavier (it's not called "barium" for naught), it will settle to the bottom nicely. Pour off, or filter, as your tastes demand, and you will have a nice, pure copper chlorate solution. The salt will be the hydrated form, but you did not mention if that was an issue or not. EIther way, it will be an absolutely rabid oxidizer. This has worked for me, and I've employed it for the sole reason that barium chlorate is easily obtainable from fireworks suppliers, but the copper chlorate is next to unobtainium....

     

    Good luck, stay safe, and be well

     

    Z06

  4. I was wondering how you can make this chemical. I heard from the "benzoic" topic that copper chlorate is unstable. So I want to make sure before moving forward.

    My thinking was to mix a solution of potassium chlorate and copper sulfate to produce copper chlorate and insoluble potassium sulfate. Am I headed in the right direction?

    Suggestions would be welcomed!

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