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Good points, John. And Yes, we shouldnt blame Monsanto for the terminator concept. Makes perfect sense.

People,

Gotta know the scoop on this, and this forum is trusted as a good source of opinions/feedback.

One idea- organic foods may be impossible to produce economically in some climates, with their inherant problems with pests, fungi, etc. Also, of course, is the concept that organics contain no pesticide residue. This residue which may be on non organics, of course, is deemed "safe" by the FDA. Anyone know off hand what the ppb/ppt allowable limits are for these residues? Are these limits truly safe, as far as we know?

I heard that the average person contains about 5000 different metals/toxins/organics in their body/blood. This comes from everyday interaction with the environment, including a brief visit to a restaurant, car show, sitting in traffic, etc etc. Why are we so dang paranoid about ppt residue?

(sorry for late reply/follow up- ben to busy)

Thaks, people, for the replies. Good to know proteins are not harmful. Im just trying to get more educated about the gmo concept. One good article (scientific source, credible) said overall, the net effect of gMO's is positive to the environment, and to humans. I just struggle daily with al the bunk which dominated the general public's perception/affirmations/contradictions/hypocrisy of GMO's.

For example, if youre a Organic only fanatic, you should embrace gmo's, since gmo's favor the use of occasional increase of herbicides, but LESS pesticides, and pesticides are by far more toxic to the ecosystem. a Respectable ecology research firm in the UK found a net positive effect.

Im eating gmo food, like any other food. Also, organic/non organic- no matter for me.

Thanks, charon. Good to now these proteins are harmless. But, how do the producers of GMO's manage to arrange the corn plant to actually produce the protein? How does the bacterium live in the corn plant and produce the protein. Im missing something here........

heard that engineered corn/soy now has been made so those plants/fruits produce their own "pesticides". Sounds like Star Trek. Can it be, people? Of course, this could start some histeria on us consuming these pesticides. Gotta be bunk.

so far, could only find this:

http://www.hoaxorfact.com/Health/gmo-corn-contains-harmful-insecticide-and-is-sold-unlabeled-facts-analysis.html

I have been cloning trees for years. Grafting too. Some grafts are hard to do. gees- have been trying to do a mango for 2 years now- fail every time except for once in August- 1 out of 4 bark grafts worked. repeated over and over, and couldnt repeat that one sucess. man, I was LUCKY!

BUT, cloning- hehe, Have pretty good luck with that. Above poster mentioned cloning pines. Softwoods are easy, people. try cloning hardwood trees! talk about tough (no pun). Did many lemons, and olives too (yes, theyre hardwoods). When you can clone/root hardwood trees, you have come far, Grasshopper. Rootdone seems to help, in theory. Use a plastic bag over the pot, hang from a shade tree. Wait 2-4 months. be patient. June to September.

Not true cloning is not commercialized- Olives, its the p[referred method these days. faster fruiting vs grafting. BUT, grafted rootstock has stronger root system. Also, "wild" root system less vulnerable to pests.

Thanks, people. Good perspectives. yes, the added benefits of a more "complete" food source like a fruit picked from a tree is to be considered. Maybe he (the doc) was thinking about high FRUCTOSE corn syrups in all the trash food on the market. Not sure what HFCS is . Concentrated fructose??

Apparently, believe it or not, cane sugar is getting $$ for food manufacturers- they have switched to the way cheaper HFCS. Dont know exactly where cane sugar is still a "must" (breakfast cereals?). So, we now are getting junk fructose, supposedly, in our fruit juices, and all the other poisons sold at the super market......(?)

and that 60minutes video was very good. Wow. I didnt know.

good point, ring. I take his comment as it is worse for your insulin "spike", or islets of Langerham "shock" to produce insulin. So, if like you say, fructose IS absorbed quicker, would make sense, right? Im kinda disappointed, as I was always a fan of more 'natural source sugar vs cane sugar refined at a factory assembly line.......

people,

Think this is true, or just suspect at this time? I mean, geez- fructose as in sugar found in an apple?? Worse at producing insulin than cane sugar??

I can't think of any reason why EDTA would affect this stuff

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latrotoxin

however EDTA is poisonous .

 

Take the bites to a doctor.

Right. why would edta be effective for spider bites? Is there "loads", as you say, of metal in a spider's venom?? Sheesh........cmon. Besides, never would send a chemical even to a fellow member for personal use.

But John, edta is used in some foods as an additive- not that poisonous, I think.

People,

I use about a liter of high purity nitric/week. This is not ACS, but take ACS, redistill it, thats what Im after. Some applications, I could re-redistill it again, to achieve sub ppb levels of impurities. Man, costs for commercially available trace grade is $$$$ these days.

So, anyone know of/experience a practical, lab scale capacity glass distiller? Quartz? kevlar? I understand glass should be OK since nitric doesnt leech out silica or boron, right?

Yes, I am starting to look online, but feedback from fellow members is always a plus.

Thanks!

If you are going to adjust the pH of the material later then it won't matter much if you start with the di sodium or tetra sodium salt.

Did it John! Right- ended up there was so much NaOH to dump in there, didnt really have to worry about it. They wanted pH way up there. Thanks for the encouragemnent!

People,

Ethylenedinitrillo tetracetic acid disodium salt- I have loads of it but needing a small quantity of the tetrasodium. Can I just add some NaOH to convert it to the tetra somehow, or no way?

Say, per gram of disodium, how much NaOH (theoretical 100%. dry) should I need, if doable?

Thanks, as always!!

Oh- say I cant do this- would the disodium be as efective chelator of metals (Mg, Zn, etc) as the tetra? Opinons appreciated.

man, a good book, on subject. Not a scientific journal article, of course, but readable book for general public. Everyone should read this, at least, anyone that is a consumer of plastic products, which means all of us. So sad, what plastic has done to the earth's surface, and even beneath the surface (beneath the ocean surface).

If you put clean water in a glass bottle and leave it, the water becomes alkaline as silicates leach out of the glass.

you mean like pure DI? Didnt know that, John. If so, probably not much to worry about, especially since the solution is not buffered- woyuldnt take much silica to raise pH in non buffered medium.

nothing wrong with beavers- just when man intervenes/manages, we end up with either too many or too few. Its too many in a "managed" environment thats bad. Like too many wolves/alligators reintroduced, etc. Right now, for example, there are too many bison in Yellowstone. "managed" ecosystem. Foresters and ecologists say "the best management is no management".

this morning (yeah, on a Sunday) I restandardized it. Left it a tad strong, but within limits. We';ll see what happens in 2 months or so.

What's the bottle made of?

Glass bottles leach alkali and that would ppt the Al.

 

More fundamentally, what has changed?

Have you moved lab, bought a bottling machine, changed your nitric acid supplier, moved to the Arctic?

There has to be something.

 

Not sure what "leach alkalai" means. The solution is acidic.

 

I know, John- theres got to be an answer other than some mideival reasoning, like the gods are not happy with me as a sinner. Same polyethylene HDPE bottle, same shelf, same bldg, same supplier - but wait- I believe its a different lot from a few yrs ago. I couldcal them to "explain". Doubt they would know, as all tey would say is maybe "havnt had any other complaints".

 

I use ACS grade, too. Not tech grade garbage.

People,

Been sellling aluminum for years- a 11,000ppm solution- simple- aluminum nitrate dissolved in a dilute nitric solution. Never a problem. Now, Im finding the solution is not stable for even 3 months. It looses about say, 2% strength/month, give/take. Just checked a stock bottle from december and its down 10% or so to about 10,000ppmAl.

What is going on?? Where is the aluminum dissappearing?? Bottles always tightly capped.

Oh- the way I test it is by classic titration- in ACS Reagents manual, if youre familiar with it. basically, its an EDTA back- titration, with dithizone indicator. very pH sensitive- gotta be 4-5.

More good tip. Thnaks, people. Oh- so far, I havnt been able to get into that house. man, how can i contrive an excuse for that........Hope creatinine has a decent "half life".

thanks. I will advise as to what happens with this detective effort

Woahhhhhh, John- good tip! (I'll have to purchase this bokk, I guess, or try inter library loan(?)) I can do that and test for ammonia easy in my lab! Unless, say, its sooo low in ppm, that is. I can test as ammonium hydroxide (ammonia in aqueous solution, of course). Again, if less than say, 100ppm, may not be detactable by titration.

Got to first do the uv light test. Then, go from there.

found this-

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5827490.html

but seems to difficult for a basic lab like mine. Gotta heat to 650 deg??? Way out of my league. Not sure if this method wouldbe in that book, John.

Hmmm, like a regular black light incandescent bulb from home depot? I have one. .........

People,

Have a piece of laminate wood flooring, was soaked with something- not sure. I suspect urine from dogs, or recent rain deluge seeping into the house (?). I strongly suspect pet urine from tenant. Any way for me to get sample of wood scrap, and test for urine residue? Creatinine? Amines? Tips /advice greatly appreciated.

Evolution , looks like its tied in with philosophy. Very relevant, I say. Is man's brain then, the only one capable of practicing philosophy? I believe it so.