silkworm

What? Sometimes you have to wonder about Primatologists. They do crazy stuff, but that seems a bit out there, even for them. There's a blog names after it: http://pinkchimp.blogspot.com/2005_03_01_pinkchimp_archive.html But I couldn't find any info about it.

I absolutely hear you PfA. And the way I ended up pointing at him was not my intention, he just begged for it and it went across well except for the Indian guy. There was simply no other option. He's slippery, and you have to peg him, and I did. I wish I had the audio, I was screaming at him too when he called Nash a liar. I was so pissed I was shaking and I wasn't going to let him slip out of it, and I didn't. What's really sad, that's not even half of what I have on him, and the pile just keeps getting deeper and deeper.

Since I got a lot of help here, I thought I'd let you guys read my bitchslap of Bill Lucas thru CCTV. http://silkworm.wordpress.com/2006/06/16/the-return-of-lucas-recap-corr-june-15-2006/ Thanks.

HHO gas? I wonder what he means by that. Also, I'm curious how he's decomposing it. It's interesting, but it did air on Fox. Who knows if they checked any of this out?

There's a new meeting on the way, I posted info here. I have Lucas figured out and he won't be a problem, I'm not even sure if he'll be there, but I hope he is.

What I would want on my tombstone is a neon sign that says, "Vacancy"

Right ecoli. I certainly agree. My father, whom is an absolute saint and I love to death, used to battle me on this but then I explained to him that that science has nothing to do with his faith and showed him a few things he's been more than cool. Don't debate him though, you can't. You either have to meet him in theology or you each have to meet in science to argue. If blackhole123 uses science to disprove his father's religion, that God does or does not exist, that's a misrepresentation as well. Also, I don't think his father is a misrepresenter of science, though he's probably had it misrepresented to him. Don't fuel that by claiming that science could test for God. If I were you I'd find out what science is. How it's done, what it's limits are, etc. etc. etc.. and then if he wants to attack it make him meet you there.

Too bad we didn't capture him alive so he would no longer be a mythological character of legendary strength and courage to his supporters. Now he's just another martyr. Anyway, I'm still glad to see it.

Every generation is in transition. Every organism is a link, missing or not. There are many fossils showing this transition in the fossil record. Evolution does not require that the parent species die out, and, anyway, the evolution of man is not in direct lineage with modern apes, we're cousins not ancestors. Yes, apparantly all of the hominid species died out - for one reason or another. It's not required though. Gigantopithicus is the closest thing to a big foot. I don't know the explaination for its extinction. Also, in evolution an entire species does not have to speciate together. A population of this species is what ends up speciating. I hope that points you in the right direction and answers all of your questions (I'm very tired sorry). The best way to understand how this works is to take a basic biological anthropology course.

Although this may appear silly, I do agree with you PfA. Kid's need to know the truth - scientists get laid. There's a problem with the overall values of this nation. Science is constantly demonized and misrepresented in the media. It's constantly showed in films and TV that knowing things isn't cool. And I just saw a story on the national news about some obscure special effects guy dying, when's the last time you saw a story about a nobel laureatte dying (and one died a few days ago, did you see anything about that)? It's simply in the conditioning.

Hey, thanks Herpguy. I don't think that's the specific action (although you nailed the glowing and the need for water) but that's definitely interesting. It wasn't way back in 1999 and they weren't potatoes. but I find it ammusing the same thing was going on 6 years earlier and I had no clue about it.

I don't think it is good practice in any practical sense other than curing debilitating diseases. It must be done for the research in hopes of raising the quality of life by many. Also, although this is not an ethical stance by me, human selection has been known to destroy species, look at my screename and avatar for further info. I don't endorse human GM for every human as a daily vitamin because of that, history, though I do support research.

Actually not too long ago (within the past year) I read that a university GM'd plants to glow when they needed water. However I am horribly unorganized and I don't know what the plant or university was. Perhaps someone else knows, or maybe it will hit me.

Thanks for all the help PfA and swansont. This thing just keeps getting deeper. I still know how to use it to my advantage, I'd just like to see some jail time and financial hardship as well as some accountability.

That is awesome. I'd like to see it designed to where more would not have to be added.

Right, living mutants and deformities are likely, but figuring them out from the ground up will be payoff. We could potentially learn so much from this reasearch that naturally occuring deformities could be eventually be something that occured only in ancient times. It's unethical not to do it, if you put into perspective all of those who suffer and die as a result of not doing research, and the fact that if the research is successful, those who benefit from it will far exceed those who are "created" with deformities. Progress is always the answer, and with everything difficult, sacrificies must be made. The death penalty does not have to be an ethical issue if you look at it from a perspective of protection. The way I see it, if a person murders someone in 2 seperate times and places then that person is dangerous to others and needs to be put to death before more harm is done. Life in prison is not a guarantee against future action, death is. I don't like killing anyone, but the murder's death will likely prevent more deaths in the future (however that is not the topic of this thread, it just coincides with the stem cell, cloning question).

Okay. But say this person has a resume with these credentials and claims these credentials, although this person may not hold an actual position because of it. But also assume that the way this person conducts himself is not in the interest of the places he claims to be from. Good call Tree.

Say there's a quack and that wants to gain credibility as a scientist. And he does two things: 1) He makes up a PhD from a good University. Say Berkeley. 2) He claims a professorship to a university but never had one. Say Harvard. Is it illegal to do so? What action can be taken against you for you to stop? Can either of the universities sue the quack? Is Berkeley's legal options different from Harvard's? What else can happen?

Yes, especially from those from abortion. This concept that doing so will somehow promote abortion is absurd, just simply make it a law that you can't financially compensate the mother for the abortion and all is well. Also, a point should be made that I am an atheist and so I very much value human life. I wish I lived in a world without abortion, and I'm personally a bit bothered by it (especially the later it is). However, I do see it as a necessary remedy for irresponsible behavior that without it would lead to more unwanted children, more abused children, and more crime, including victimization of innocent people who had nothing to do with the irresponsibility of the parents. I however would never vote against it. If there weren't legal means for abortions, attempts would still be made that sometimes do not work and lead to a horrible existence for the child (though I do admit a horrible existence is better than nonexistence), women who have miscarriages would be investigated for murder, and anyone who wanted to have a child as part of a suicide mission would simply have to find the best woman to rape. In the last case, it's unfortunate the future child is being punished, but you can't empower rapists like that. It's gruesome, I don't like it, but it's necessary to offset the irresponsibility of humans to make this a safer world. And if we get helpful material from it that can benefit mankind, it is irresponsible for us not to capatilize on it.

Thanks for the links radical edward, although I never liked the "poor design" argument. If it works, it works. But many of my friends love the poor design argument. ALSO! Some very important information has been brought to my attention regarding "him". Some very damning evidence indeed, that is very neutral in both regards to science and religion and I'm certain the audience will accept it readily. There are no worries about him now, I'll be able to end the meeting at will. I wish I could disclose it, however I can't until after his return. It will be in my pocket ready to trump until then.

They lack DNA? I wonder how he's going to find support of their origin. Also, I make the argument that deep sea life that isn't part of the ecosystem that is based on solar energy and are instead geothermal are alien life, although on the same planet. I've never heard of them not having DNA though. I'm wondering what will come of this.