Kittenpuncher

i guess i have a couple of those tall malt liquor cans or something. but, also ribs

if you were in God's position you would not be able to bear humanity's attempts to emasculate, insult, and demean you, and the gravity of the sheer evil they have committed, most of it a direct attempt to torment you in every way they could, would cripple you with sickness and horror, you would scream and cry, quaking with fear, as you failed everyone you loved who depended on you, their screaming faces would torture you every waking moment of your life, you would have no idea what to do about them except that hopefully you would have the power to destroy this world and everything in it

even God so lamented the creation of man, long before things were nearly as horrible as humans have made them now, clear your doubts; it is not but through his perfection that he allowed this world to continue, for he knows his plan will succeed

i've been through this dilemma before, kid, it's not worth using as a basis for your idealogy, the answer is right before your eyes from the get-go, you are arbitrarily blinded to the truth of it, your mind is not weighing the two sides properly, and that itself is likewise arbitrarily not occuring to you

i know this because i've been through this dilemma and i think this is the only real reason why anyone would be stuck struggling with it, unless they let it take the goodness from their heart

i didn't mean to scare you, it's just that this is how it's been since the mankind was created

so watch what you say, even i wouldn't be able to do what god does, most would probably commit suicide after Adam and Eve gained the knowledge of good and evil. i know people very well, and I can relate to maybe some small puddle of the pain and suffering that god has faced, though his would probably be an ocean that swallows all the ground that man will ever touch

3 hours ago, iNow said:

You should put this in your signature to save time. Applies to so very many of the posts you make. 

no it doesn't but you have already established yourself as a liar very thoroughly so i know that i don't have to tell you this again for you to realize

2 hours ago, Peterkin said:

I hope you don't get nose-bleeds.

there's not even supposed to be oxygen this far up but i don't really understand the whole "thinking im still on earth thing" anyway, leaving me in the dark has been a consistently decadent, sinful pattern for a long, long time, sometimes i think that nobody is innocent of it unless it does me no significant good to know something

yes you did, you lied again

and you didn't refute a single thing that i said whatsoever, so i know you have lied to me and slandered me on this public forum for the 4th and 3rd times, in that order

You know, you lied when you said that my thinking was irrational. Not only that, you pretended that defending religion or proclaiming any sort of faith, and just having a pro-religion point in the first place, makes someone a religious fanatic. That's pretty disgusting, and you can't blind me to how disgusting and slanderous of a lie it is. 

I think you're pretty much a militant fanatic yourself, you must have rolled right out of some crowded discord server after they taught you to insult people by pretending they're insane, like that fallacious stereotype of what a mental hospital would do, which they've already tried to do.

You must feel like a pretty shit-eating sore loser, trying to insult me because I destroyed your argument with what I learned from actual, real life experience.

You get what you deserve, and obviously that's what you're really upset about, primitive

If you are conscience, then you already know, that your actions are your own doing

You're assuming that you understand a thing like "knowing everything" and perfection/omniscience, but wouldn't you also point out that the ideas seem contradictory to you? Saying what you've said, you act like you understand it, whereas on other occasions, wouldn't you realize that you don't?

You don't even realize that there are actually answers to questions like this. Society has you fooled. There are chapters of the Holy Bible where the people would challenge Jesus with questions like this, which they thought were impossible to answer, and in at least one they were trying to castrate him while doing it, because they were sure there was no logical way that the question should be answered. He would amaze them!

And I wondered, quiet a few times, when people would do this sort of thing to Jesus, "what in the hell would you even do, if he couldn't answer that question? Go on a bloodbath killing spree?" And I think they probably would. Maybe they didn't realize how close they came to destroying any semblance of not just faith, but any sort of morality or grip on themselves that they had, in an attempt to prove Jesus wrong about anything at all

This is practically the same sort of question, or close. The godlessness of the people today is not a good thing, and everyone takes it far too lightly, even with people asking these sorts of questions that would easily give birth to a violent, blood-strewn grudge against the only thing that ever taught people how to be righteous and live happily, we need God because he is the one that would tell you not to do the horrible things that many would take your logic and try to blame God for, he is the one that puts a stop to the suffering and agony that comes from the wicked, and it is him who taught people to forgive

People don't realize the gravity of evil that used to go on, when God was punishing and enslaving his people. It's ironic that people point to him doing that and tell people how evil or wrong and sick it was. They're hiding his justifications for doing so, and they are relying on you being completely ignorant about practically the entire old testament and new testament, to turn you into a blind hater of the one thing that is always worthy of love, feeding on your naive arrogance where you haven't considered that you probably won't live past 100 years old, and that everything that surrounds us here is a bunch of stuff that's completely new to humankind, meanwhile, you trash what all of our ancestors believed in and lived happily because of since time began, like that has no meaning to you, and like nobody has ever seen or answered these questions before

What I'm saying, basically, is how it's ironic to point the finger at God for what you decided to do on your own, even though he is always trying to get people to turn from sin, and be wise, happy, and content

Without him, our eyes would be cooked in their sockets, the wind would carry prickly blood dust from the decimation, and nobody would have ever known good beyond attaining the wisdom to just end all life on Earth, because of the pain that life would be

It won't work

Science with it's deception is disgustingly pathetic

Humans tend not to have the good in them to admit that they can see through it

But it's easy, and anyone probably can

You put way too much trust in your simple strategy of brain suckingness anyway

If you did get rid of the Lord, you'd regret it

I know there is evil in this world that would make you scream just to comprehend it

You think you're so blissful to be ignorant of it, but because of that ignorance, you take the one thing that makes anything good for granted, and you bite the hand that feeds

And for what!

To say the least, you would see what kinds of arrogant fools mankind has become, but you'll see that anyway

You may suffer after your first death, but two things bring wisdom more than basically anything else: suffering, and the simple passage of time

I think it's pretty safe to assume that you will find redemption, just like everyone else will

It's a pretty perfect world

The works and laws of men were not intended to do justice, I believe

For years I assumed that man would be willing to instill justice of their own years; that was apparently a deep, glaring naivety at this point. 

Justice is done, but mankind invented their legal systems to disguise the hand of the Lord as he ensures justice, genuinely and perfectly, so that all face a tragic damnation

It baffled me to imagine why they did this; it doesn't seem like it had to be that way

But they did

Whether or not I can rationalize what motivated them to do this is beyond me, but that doesn't change the reality

It's just something you have to deal with

Justice is not subjective; you make this mistake of thinking that it is, but that is because you've simply lost track of what remains objectively true in such a scenario

"Moral subjectiveness" is a dark, fruitless, and lonesome road. I suggest you take the brighter path so you don't simply bring more pain and suffering onto yourself, as well as others. It's a concept that has been twisted into a weapon, one that takes it's life by clearly and directly turning individuals into sociopaths

Hopefully something will open your eyes one day, it's a very difficult thing to accomplish, but when you do, it's too obvious to not see

Thank you, goodbye

Today I thought about what it would be like to have a "one-pack", and I learned that it would probably hurt quite a bit

When it comes to politics, it's handy to keep one key thing in mind, it is the center and the answer to politics as a concern, and that is;

Most people don't even believe the shit that they say

And they are just trying to anger you or make you really uncomfortable and scared of their presumed ability to turn others against you through deception, or perversity/defile you

Oftentimes I simply tell the others that I refuse to involve myself in the affairs of blasphemers always a good creedo to live by and I have the moral high ground in any political discussion through that; seeing as how I refuse to participate

Knock knock 

Who's there?

Weed

Weed who?

Weed rather you not drive by the elementary school in your van that has twenty different love live characters on the side

Haha sorry this is not the right thread

Well God is perfect so he wouldn't do anything as stupid as trying to see if he can move something that he designed to be immovable even by him

Even the universe itself moves duh like if it has borders something could just hit one of the sides and bam. The whole universe moves. So we're back at square one just because that would happen, no matter how many other universes/dell optiplex business computers contain our universe, or whatever

6 hours ago, zapatos said:

Yep, that's it. We discussed it at our weekly meeting and decided on this course of action for obvious reasons. I'm sure you've already heard from our representatives.

Well when I woke up in that mysterious laboratory some of the straps were a little loose, weird how they build such "tools of science" and never considered that this could happen. they didn't have much to say I guess, lots of screaming, they tried to make me feel guilty and I was so offended by that

I got over it you know, "they're just doing whatever they can to survive" is what I figured

I'm sure they regretted that

I didn't read the last three pages

What happened here? It's been derailed so much, if I started this I'd have the hissfit choir coming to suck my brains out and dismember me. So it's only been allowed to be hypocritical as a gross weird jab at me, unless either 1. this whole exchange is all underhanded jabs at me somehow 2. You guys don't care about staying on topic any more out of the mythical goodness said to sometimes appear within the heart of a man

Of course, nobody needs to answer me, or something, you'd might as well continue on, like a serene babbling Brook, and yell at each other some more, lol

On 4/24/2022 at 8:29 AM, dimreepr said:

Lest we forget

God's hand is not an awful one

On 4/16/2022 at 2:56 PM, iNow said:

If you don’t know, then how could you post previously in the affirmative? 

In the affirmative? As in how did I say yes? A couple different reasons. It maybe wanted me to say that. It's always trying to influence my posts and stuff. But I am working on being better able to resist that sort of thing. I got pretty good at resisting it at a few points. Which makes it sort of significant that it's become so difficult, I think. If anything it's probably a very large number of people working together, that causes it.

I'm sorry, for whatever I did, that makes me deserve this. But there are benevolent things in my mind, sometimes. It's weird how much is trying to separate me from them

But those things also tell me that I'm innocent, and they don't try to make me do anything bad, and the things they say make more sense than the relentless brainwashers ever do. 

And usually I'm pretty sure-set about believing that I'm innocent, which the brainwashers don't want at all, even when I'm simply minding my own business

They're not above calling God himself a liar, even, which is outright batshit crazy by like, anyone's standards, I think you'd agree with me on that

I'm still trying to figure that out iNow Xd

On 4/14/2022 at 6:28 AM, Genady said:

I'm curious about a physics of this. Does mind create a field outside your body such that this field has all the detailed information about the mind's state?

There's a number of ways

Most of them are unspeakably dumb

Your idea would be pretty complicated

And the victim would have the upper hand in a potential struggle

Anyway

I was diagnosed with schizophrenia almost ten years ago

The truthfulness of that diagnosis was extremely questionable based on what has happened to me

By the way, there are wikipedia pages for thought withdrawals and thought insertions, if you're wondering

But most of my "symptoms" are pretty hard to find information about

On 4/13/2022 at 7:13 PM, iNow said:

Are you being forced to keep logging in and posting?

Yes

On 4/14/2022 at 3:24 AM, swansont said:

Which is still off-topic for that discussion, since it didn’t center on black politicians 

?? I said a lot of stuff about it, that was just one thing, it was related, part of the topic's question

1 hour ago, MSC said:

How could someone have made you forget stuff or removed entire words from existence? Is that rational? How much of what you think would you class as suspicions vs certainties? 

How would you describe your inner dialogue? On a scale of 1-5, 5 being within your control, 1 not being in your control at all. Do you believe all of your inner dialogical agents have your best interests at heart?

Is challenging and questioning some of your scarier thoughts difficult for you? 

How did you end up homeless and where is your family in all this?

To be frank, You are only 2 years younger than I am, but seem to be going through very similar issues that I myself went through. I was homeless, on the verge of psychosis, doing drugs, angry with everyone and burning bridges left, right and centre. I have about 8 out of 10 ACEs, (Adverse childhood experiences) although I think the questionnaire is in need of updating or may have already made a revised version. Anyway that's just used as a psychiatric tool to evaluate what sort of childhood a person may have had, in regards to suspected PTSD. (DISCLAIMER, I am not a psychiatrist and as such I am not in the position to diagnose anyone with any mental illnesses and you should never assume you know exactly what you may or may not have without consulting with a professional Psychiatrist.)

That said, in your position it is difficult to find that sort of help and you can't therapy away the emotional strain of being homeless. Believe me, I know that.

So first things first. You need stable housing. Would you permit me to make contact with some charities or local government housing officials to see how we could go about getting you a place to stay?

Out of curiosity, and with zero intent to judge, have you at any point in your life recieved a diagnosis of a mental illness, neurological condition or a life long physical disability?

Are you currently taking any drugs and if yes; do you want to quit?

I can help with some of this stuff, without you having to give me any identifying information on you, save town or city of residence. 

You seem like an intelligent and caring person at heart. I think you're probably completely capable of taking the steps you need to take back a firm hold of your life again. 

Now, I can only talk to people and give you pointers. I can't do anything else other than that. The most that we can all do for you is encourage you to take those steps, so that you can reach a point where you are safe enough to truly think and action how you want to make your mark on the world, in a positive way.

 

Basically it's pretty hard to explain to you if you're not the sort that's dealt with things like people reading your mind aloud in public all the time and stuff

In terms of how much control I have over my own thoughts it is generally somewhere between 1 and 2 

Generally the controlling individuals have the utmost of bad intentions however something is preventing it from inciting or allowing acts of violence on my part for now

There is a spirit that I see, I believe that it is the Holy Spirit, and it is perhaps one of two influences in my life with any sort of good intentions

Horribly enough the other presences are trying hard to eliminate it's presence from my life and destroy it in general

I would say no, if it was it doesn't matter, these people are absolutely dedicated to walking all over whatever it is I think and believe, and want to change me into an obviously terrible person

Umm I already tried to answer about my homelessness and my family

I guess I'm not too comfortable with that idea, I appreciate the offer but I don't really expect anyone to help me

I said general three times in that post which reflects the militant effort out towards my overall undoing (in general!)

On 4/12/2022 at 8:50 AM, swansont said:

I will note that in the supreme court discussion you brought up the notion of some people being "race traitors". Which is not something that was under discussion at all in the thread. It's a dubious idea and you didn't do anything to support it with actual facts and data.

It's off-topic for that thread, so it's a hijack, and unsupported, so contrary to the ideals of a science discussion site. It's something that adds to your reputation as one who engages in trolling. It's something that can easily be viewed as an attempt at provoking a contentious discussion. It certainly does not endear you to people who want to engage in discussion without such distractions.

Just something to consider.

 

Well I misspoke in that thread, I meant that people usually throw that idea around about black politicians

Obama was a good example, especially with all of that different conspiracy stuff, a lot of black people I've met said they saw him like that

On 4/12/2022 at 9:17 AM, Phi for All said:

It might have set a poor tone, but it's not the reason you're viewed as a troll.

I don't think you understand the purpose of a science discussion forum. We can't possibly help you with your mental health, other than to help you learn some science through discussion. Constantly bringing up problems we can't help with is frustrating for EVERYONE. 

If you're looking for more internet friends, it's not a good tactic to start out complaining about how you were stalked on the internet and lost all your friends. It's not a good tactic to join a conversation and then make it all about you. It's not a good tactic to base your whole forum style on things we can't possibly know or check on. 

If you actually listened to the feedback you've gotten in various threads, you wouldn't need to make threads like these. You could read the room and realize nobody wants to discuss "the work of the Lord" on a science discussion forum. Unless your life experiences give context to the science discussion you've chosen to join, you don't need to mention it. Focus. Stay on topic. Remember that this is like sitting around a table talking. What you've been doing is jumping up on the table and screaming, "But what about THIS!" 

Honestly I've been slandered so much by you people since I joined, every time I post the only responses I get are people going out of their way to insinuate problems with my posts and being manipulative, trying to insult me and generally holding me to a completely different standard than what applies to everyone else

Like you ignored the fact that he actually asked me to explain all of that, and as a matter of fact, so did he

And you'll probably pretend that he didn't ignore it because it's opportune

I don't see a reason to be here but there's no way to even delete my account so

🤷‍♀️

I think he meant to imply that all of that stemmed from chemicals and stuff in our brains, and that they are superficial things in reality

Even though that's just an enzyme they extracted from the virus?

On 4/12/2022 at 7:34 AM, iNow said:

Incorrect. I see your issues with reading comprehension rearing their ugly head here yet again. 

 

Me: "Each time we recall an experience we engage the narrative portions of our brains and ever so slightly rewrite it until sometimes the entire memory becomes false to the point of fiction."

Area54: "Memory works in peculiar ways. Initially we do not remember what happened, but what we remember is an interpretation of what we think happened. When this memory is revisited it is revised. Repeatedly. Moreover, research has shown that false memories are readily created."

Area54: "Intially we do not remember what happened,"

This is what he said that I was talking about 

20 hours ago, MSC said:

Okay, I'll bite. Who are "they"? 

How often would you say you think things like this? This all sadly sounds very familiar to me. You remind me of my friend Bobby. 

Generally, the government, but also, some people that I've met personally