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8 hours ago, Peterkin said:

How about we respect the person, even if we despise the idea?

we always need to take decisions via/by intellect (not emotions).

and "to despise" is emotional...

13 minutes ago, Phi for All said:

I refuse absolutely. Some ideas should never merit anyone's respect.

but through far in the past of history up to now, not just one time ,but multiple times  we experienced that it has always been even high potential for any idea to show its face as another "reality". 

Even, I think you can find some contexts relevant to this issue among your this website's rules (read forum rules and privacy&policy)

I think you will perfectly find something for yourself that proves this idea was WRONG. 

one another important notation here should be that none asks you to believe or accept the nature of  truth of any idea.. just respect!

4 hours ago, Peterkin said:

All religions - all philosophies, all human ideas - are inventions. They do not occur in nature, and they did not come fully formed into anybody's mind: they evolved with and were developed by people. That's why crows and dolphins don't have any.

it eventually brings us a mandate duty : to respect all of ideas!

to simplify the case by basic examples & and original / real life practices, I can say that almost all of the people nowadays known as 'illuminated' faces ( i.e. everyone who lives nowadays) would most probably accept that a light would NOT OCCUR IN NATURE if we were to correctly follow your this ("wrong" ) idea.

also, such examples can be multiplied ..roughly, todays "illuminated" people were in belief that earth was flat in the past (which is wrong)

in fact, that stated  idea is common paradigm almost all around the people who would like to be known as illuminated faces or modern whereas the universal realities require more sensitive and close examination/vision and (i.e. CORRECT) knowledge. 

....

as result, i think that closer and more sensitive approaches and works will ensure us to learn general trıuths which are universal and not dependent to any personal practises  and / or venue. 

3 hours ago, Peterkin said:

At the time Jesus is chronicled operating in the mortal world, Islam had not yet been invented

this is in fact, not a correct usage of accepted reality amongst Islamic world. Because Islam was in fact available at that time ,when islam had not been available yet.

Because according to common sense amongst muslims, christianity was Islam in those days. 

it seems you confuse something

Islam is not an invention (like I commonly do)  and it has not belonged to Muhammad (s.a.w.) 

4 hours ago, dimreepr said:

The same idea will be understood time and time again, because it makes sense at the time and because it's a simple idea; be nice...

peheh   you blame me with providing simple ideas. 

I could choke you via my strong mathematical formulas ,eh    

(but forget it for a while, I won't do that for now   maybe later I could.

well, 

more than the exact queries asked & discussed under this thread, I came to one or more very interesting point(s) and ask question(s) within the scope of this thread.

--- under the condition that jesus is expected (or being considered so), can we say that christian world was doubtful across something like their status  through the negation of assuming that islam religion would be (ever) wrong selection? (Because, that is a well known paradigm amongst almost all of muslims)

--- is christian world also doubtful across the idea which states that islamic - holy quran should be not considered a book that states corrrect explanations ?

...

1 hour ago, Sirflappington said:

read up on a hypothetical way to travel faster than light in space, and that is to compress the space in front of the spacecraft while at the same time expanding the space behind the craft. They proposed this through the use of gravity to bend space while shielding the passenger and the interior of the craft from the effects of the gravity. My question is, does this actually make it possible to move faster than light relative to the passenger?

I think that that was perfectly possible. but will not provide the details.

3 hours ago, dimreepr said:

The less informed you are, the better the joke...

 

13 minutes ago, joigus said:

No sex implied.  It was a joke-quiz. Both the joke and the quiz are pretty lame. It's easy if you google. The thing is whether you can retrieve it from your long-term memory without looking at the real logo.

but catode and anode stimulates me to think so. sorry really if this is my failure. 

meanwhile, it perfectly seems like I have been degreeded in this joke sequence

5 minutes ago, dimreepr said:

Is that a joke?

mmm both yes and no    

1 hour ago, joigus said:

Which one is the right cathode-anode polarity?

I think non -sexual ideas seems better  or unisex pahaha. 

therefore ,both or none of these is correct  

with high volume of cheerings,

best cheers

2 minutes ago, dimreepr said:

What makes you think that tomorrow will enlighten you?

ahaha ... that is not as that difficult,in fact. (though, I know many blind people !)

simply:

do not think and feel the difference between you and (assuming you have white skin) and non - white people. 

try to minimize self ideas. 

be objective. 

etc

6 minutes ago, dimreepr said:

Knowledge is only understood when we exceed our teacher's; they don't just give you a doctorate.... 

mm,well.

I think I am contemporary one regarding the issue you mention. 

I do not rely on the degrees we / you / anyone obtain. I prefer to check personal characters instead. 

Some unclear but important clue of results say that US will collapse in next 20-50 years. (Do not please ask the details ,I can remove this a piece of information)

20 minutes ago, dimreepr said:

Did you teach yourself any of this?

in education sciences, no. 

but in science ,yes. 

(I would say "yes" in also education sciences , but these are rather general contexts. so, no. )

2 minutes ago, dimreepr said:

The sentence speaks for itself

ok. trying to correlate the topic , I can say that although some "behviours" might have a significantly " very low ratio of " relevance with the body skin (e.g. shrinking lips. also may rise to the type of voice and thus , style of expresion might be affected. )

but with this; no ... this is natural action first and none will feel himself/herself comfortable to act as in the role of whom he/she would potentially tries to , instead acting in her/his natural model.

trying to relate the two sentences you provided, I can suggest some educational contexts such as : "humanist approch" and some contexts in "social learning" 

also checking "cognitive model" might be good. 

4 minutes ago, dimreepr said:

The only thing you haven't been taught, is what you teach yourself. 😉

mmm, are you mentioning something in medical sciences , "consciousness" ,which we broadly assess in biophysics?

or something in religious sciences ,such as: the existence of God, how to find him ,etc?

I am sure ,I am  aware on what to concentrate on

25 minutes ago, dimreepr said:

Yes, human destiny is defined by human history; "if we don't learn from the past, we're doomed to repeat it."

that is ok. but ..

25 minutes ago, dimreepr said:

Care to elaborate?

yes , normally; yes we are being taught ...but not everything are geing provided from all of the external world. 

and not everything also being taught by education. (we do not learn everything , some types of information / instructions are ready already by the time we born) 

I mean we already know something when we born.

4 hours ago, dimreepr said:

No one is born a racist, but sometimes they're taught to hate...

does this sentence contain also something relevant to human destiny?

by the way, I disagree this idea.

17 minutes ago, Phi for All said:

Or is this to say your climate has changed and the people are having big problems adapting to it?

to me ,yes, exactly. 

at somewehere , we have not seen almost any raining. somewhere, yes such heavy rains and at unexpected time that floodings occured. Some people say that we will live some problems in planting and obtaining agricultural foods ,because the occuring time of rains are also not at expected times.

I am almost sure that somethings are changing and I fear this will happen to partially world wide. 

20 minutes ago, Phi for All said:

"Too strange" indicates a problem that can't be allowed to stand, so I'm going to guess that your climate has changed drastically and people are wondering what can be done about it

I try to predict the future times, but unfortunately have no optimistic / positive ideas in my hand in this regard.

12 hours ago, Alex Mercer said:

Do you ever feel like people who are non white trying to fit in a western country feel like they have to put on a fake act of trying to be "white".

no. too much stupid or meaningless to me.

I'm a non white person and I couldn't imagine myself working in an office or being in a meeting where professional white people are discussing things or even worse having an opinion expressed in front of them.

meaningless.

But lucky the internet exists and seems to bring us all together to get a taste of what people can be like.

Some of my feelings towards this is instilled in me through my father who always talks about how this is a "white mans" world and we have to live like them in order to survive in this modern world.

stupid/illogical idea.

 

some other comments:

I had had a very nice friend whose skin was very dark black. Also, to me thinking the existence of significant difference between the acts of "white" and "non white" people/men is also illogical.

hi,

As I am not specialised in this area and the issue is not sufficiently precise,I preferred to open here.

we could not take the expected rains.

I heard SSP disease (but this name was presumably in turkish,do not know about english name)

this was caused by a vaccine and could be out long years after the vaccination and not appearing on everyone.

I also come across an interesting thing, turkish processes a bit chnged but in spite of the smallness of those chnages I think the system is not same with the past (in comparison)

for instance , ethical board does not work thoroughly in implementation of lots of scientific projects.(also,it is not a requirement)(i.e. security issues arising(?))

6 hours ago, geordief said:

some of us are slow learners 

for example ,like you

22 minutes ago, wtf said:

A topological space does not necessarily have a metric. The definition of space is far more general. 

yes , thanks for reminding.