Wheniwasakid

27 minutes ago, zapatos said:

You don't know that. You just think that. I happen to have a vivid memory of the Easter Bunny in my backyard. I can even describe what he was wearing. 

This is a waste of time if you think "the impossible" is "possible". That is not reasonable and you should know that.

Yea well neither do you

4 hours ago, DrmDoc said:

I want to put to rest this notion that our dreams can cause real injuries. Sleep is primarily a passive state of brain/body activity except when the brain is dreaming and when we sleepwalk as a result. Definitively, dreaming is activity our sleeping brain engages as a response to stimuli.  The key descriptive word here is "response", which means something has to happen before some other thing occurs.  Unless your experience involves sleepwalking, your dream and dreams in general cannot be the source of injury because they only occur as responses or reactions to something else.  Your Freddy Kruger dream experience was a response to an injury you likely sustained through physical trauma prior to the onset of your dream.  Dreams are essentially effects rather that causes of trauma, physical or otherwise.  Additionally, to reiterate iNOW's comment, no mechanism for the precision splitting of skin has been shown to exist in the psychosomatic dynamics of our mind/body connection.  Skin splitting could be caused by various maladies that causes dryness and cracking but you've made no mention of having a skin condition 20 years ago.  Memory isn't a fixed medium; it becomes more malleable as time passes.   More than likely, time has altered and embellished your recollection of what occurred when you were a 9 year old 20 years ago.

There's not many things that I remember so clearly so my memory of the event hasn't diminished or changed at all. I know what happened whether it sounds crazy or not. The impossible is possible. You may be the "dream doc" but you dont know everything. No one was involved with the injury I sustained. Neither were any objects. 👍

1 hour ago, Phi for All said:

While it's true there are gaps in our knowledge, this doesn't seem to be one of them. The human brain is constantly scanning for patterns in nature, looking for the familiar as a filter to help us form opinions and decipher the unfamiliar. Dreams are often formed around some justification for a real life event, like the dream of crossing the tracks before an oncoming train that wakes you up, only to find that the tea kettle is whistling. For whatever reasons, in your dream the train whistling fit the pattern of what you were hearing better than the tea kettle, or may have added a bit more motivation to wake up and turn the stove off.

The most likely explanation is that something made the cuts on your arm that night and your brain came up with an elaborate dream to make sense of it and scare you awake so you could deal with the danger (Brother? Fork on the nightstand? Toy taken to bed for comfort? Door jamb scratch coming back from the loo?). We can feel when we're bleeding, usually, even when the cuts are clean. 

Was there a LOT of blood on the sheets from such deep cuts, or do you think the dream woke you up almost immediately after the wounds happened (however they happened)? This might rule out some explanations.

The brain has access to many systems within the body that could make a dream seem like it was visiting a physiological phenomenon upon the dreamer, but only in a limited way. Rashes/inflammations, excretions, exterior skin temperature fluctuations, these are all part of existing systems, and it's not unlikely that a dreaming brain could access them. But there isn't a mechanism in the human body to produce cuts like the ones you describe. What would we use THAT for? 

I'm just going to agree to disagree that my brother did it and leave it at that.

All scars aren't permanent 🤣 where did you come up with that?

1 hour ago, Phi for All said:

I believe whatever caused the wound caused the nightmare. No coincidence at all. It's amazing the way the brain can weave real life into what's happening in dreams.

Understandable. Might explain why the dream was very short. I also used to have deja vu from recollection of my dreams. Unrelated but just shows there's a lot more we dont know.

2 hours ago, zapatos said:

Why would you guess your brain did it? What mechanism of the brain could cause relatively deep wounds to the skin? 

 

Because I haven't found another explanation..  Again, that's why I'm here, looking for answers.

20 minutes ago, DrmDoc said:

I see...now you recall scars?  Did you also awake in a fright and do you recall your parents reaction to your injury?  After nearly four decades of private study in pursuit of understanding the nature of mind, consciousness, and dreaming, I can confidently say that the injury you described was likely caused by some influence within your sleep environment rather than your dream.  Dreaming is how our sleeping brain synthesize or interpret sensory stimuli it perceives during the periods of arousal caused by its metabolic needs amid sleep.  Our brain is the largest consumer, about 20%, of our body's overall energy uptake.  Its persistent metabolic needs in sleep causes arousal, which is why dreaming is a kind of consciousness or wakefulness amid the sleep process.  Our sensory experiences during sleep can precipitate a cascade of neural activity leading to imagery very much like familiar fragrances that vividly invoke a cascade of mental imagery or long forgotten memories.  Cut marks on your body with the precision of a knife was likely produced by something or someone in your sleep environment, which your sleep brain then interpreted as relative to your recent scary movie experience--IMO.

Now I recall? I recall mentioning that I said in the first place. But ok. And yes my parents were made aware

1 hour ago, iNow said:

What do YOU think caused it?

As I mentioned before, I dont know. That's why I'm here. If I had to give my best guess, I would have to say my brain did it. Sounds ridiculous but that's my only answer.

On 11/25/2019 at 7:04 PM, DrmDoc said:

This might be possible, if I may offer an opinion, for any number of reasons not apparent form the perspective of an 8-9 year old 20 years in retrospect.  It's possible that your vivid recollection of what occurred 20 years ago isn't quite what happen.  Time alters our memories and can create false ones that merges imagined experiences with those that are real.  If your experience was real and you actually sustained "3 deep knife marks", scars of that experience would likely be visible somewhere on your body today, 20 years later, if they were truly as "deep" as you say.  However, you've made no mention of such scars, which could suggest that the sleep injury you sustained was likely not as severe as you might have then perceived 20 years ago, which was likely precipitated and enhanced by the persisting fear an 8-9 year old could have experienced after a night of watching "scary movies".   20 years hence, your memory of the experience was embellished by time.  Although, there's strong scientific evidence for the psychosomatic connection between mind and body, which can produce real physical injury, I do not believe this was likely your experience as a 9 year old child particularly without evidence of lingering scarification. I hope this helps.

Well it may not sound reasonable but my recollection is very clear. Also, I didn't mention that the scars lasted a few years and I also didnt mention how deep the wounds were. They were slightly more than superficial but deep enough to leave scar tissue for 2-3years. 

On 11/25/2019 at 2:11 PM, Phi for All said:

What does this mean? Your brother, who was there, who you said liked to torture you, could possibly be the one to cut you, but it's "too coincidental"? It sounds like he had the means, the motive, and the opportunity, and if he did it he had a reason, so it wasn't random chance. What is "too coincidental" about your brother torturing you physically as well as mentally?

And wounds manifested themselves on his arm because of it?! How do you imagine THAT happened? 

I believe it's too coincidental that my brother attacked me on the night of my nightmare. Also, he was a bit deranged, but not psychotic. He definitely didnt do it. 

Which is?

Too coincidental but I suppose its possible

I dont have an explanation. That's why I'm here. I know the brain is more powerful than we know and could've manifested the injuries but it was real. That's all I know

Didn't want to go into much detail of the dream but yes it was freddy Krueger. The wounds were consistent with something very sharp, in order for me to bleed and leave a scar for a few years. Sleepwalking is a possibility I suppose, but very unlikely.

So, when I was around 8-9 years old my older brother tortured me by forcing me to watch scary movies. I still vividly remember the dream I had almost 20 years later. After I awoke from the dream I had 3 deep knife marks on my arm with no explanation of how they got there. I had short nails which I tried scratching myself afterwards to make sure I couldn't have done it to myself, which I couldn't. How is this possible?