Yusef

1 hour ago, Sensei said:

@Yusef

I agree with your premise that the so called "Holy Books" are full of inconsistencies and paradoxes.. They were made by hundreds of people. Everyone added something from themselves. Voluntarily or accidentally......

THEREFORE we should use Algorithm and researching AT ALL!

THEN

IF we have had any wrong in our beliefs, then be convinced/changed

IF we haven't had any wrong in our beliefs, then it will make us Faithful about our beliefs!

 

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The greatest scientists means 12Imams the same 12 stars of woman and Muhammad and Ali the same Sun and Moon said:

☆"The angels open their wings as carpet for steps of the scientists who go toward learning the science"

☆"sleeping of a scientist is better than worshipping of thousands believers"

☆"every angels, trees, fishs, birds, mountains, sky, galaxies etc pray for the scientist"

 

1 hour ago, swansont said:

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Moderator Note

Linking to your closed threads without correcting the behavior that caused the closure is interpreted as an attempt to circumvent the efforts of the moderators. You need to stop doing that.

With regard to this last post, I don't see any connection whatsoever to the topic. You have made no connection between e.g. the  corruption of the gospel (or any of the rest of what you posted) and science. Please stick to the topic that you introduced.

 

 

Worshippers of Paul say:

It's true that Jesus said: father, father, why you forsaken me

Therefore it's true that he called another person except himself

BUT he is the same!!!

<ERROR>

In Digital/Logic, there isn't any "BUT"

 

Worshippers of the first and second say:

It's true that these both and Aisha battled against Ali,

BUT we regard all!!!

<ERROR>

 

Worshippers of Khameneii say:

Those Ahadith are true,

BUT we are truth too!!!

<ERROR>

 

Worshippers of ownselves say:

The big bang was start of creation!

-Who Has Created the big bang!??

-Nobody

<ERROR>

1 hour ago, Sensei said:

....Reverse.

Fools think they know everything, therefor they have simple (short) answers for everything.

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Bravoo my dear scientific brother.

But i guess we both posted our comments at once and you didn't read my last answer

You shouldn't say that with certain!

I meant other thing.

For example Algorithm: [even nondeterministic]

For worshippers of Paul:

<START>

1. Has this gospel been corrupted!?

IF YES,

2. THEREFORE you should doubt about Jesus being god!!

IF NO, go to next step

3. Has within that been written that Jesus says: O' father, why you forsaken me!

IF NO, return back to the number1

IF YES, go next..

4. THEREFORE he called one except himself!

IF YES, go next..

IF NO, return back to the number3.

 

And the processing will be endless

Therefore the CPU will be damaged and hot.

 

For Sunni-muslims the same:

<START>

1. Has the prophet said that "enemies of Ali are idiots and into hell fire?"

IF NO, go to 2

IF YES, go to 3

2. This has been written in your own books! Do you believe in hour own books or not!??

IF YES IF NO.....

3. Was any battle between Abubakr/Umar/Aisha* with Ali!?

IF YES IF NO...

an other endless processing for worshippers of the first beast and the second beast of the Revelation of saint John

 

Or about regime of Iran

<START>

1. Are you govern/rule within coverage of Shi'a-Islam?

IF NO, go 2

IF YES, go 3.

2. THEREFORE cut name of Shi'a in your regime

3. But the system of "Republic" and "Religious" is against doctrine of Shi'a! Plus salaries of team of Shi'a government should be lesser than the simplest worker, take a while you have thousands times more than riches.

 

Republic Vs Kingdom

Again endless processing

 

This stuff was all thing I meant and brought the simplest example of Charting/Algorithm for readers of post

1 hour ago, iNow said:

Your poll is flawed. You’re forcing a choice between two options that don’t adequately cover the most likely possibilities. 

Your name reminds me to "iTunes" haha

Well,

Tell me what other choice would i put for my poll that doesn't be flawed?

Then i follow Algorithm:

LEVEL1>IF the opinion has a source, i will search for any opposing source for that.

THEN

LEVEL2>IF there won't be any different saying,

THEREFORE

LEVEL3>I agree/accept/submit and be convinced/changed as before

Submitting for reason!

But IF

LEVEL4>There be any different saying, i will tell that to you

THEN

You return/connect to the LEVEL1

 

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Hadith of one of the greatest scientists Ali ibn Abi-Talib[S.A.A]: "one of sign of the fool is:

Denying any saying without any reason

Or

Telling any saying without any source"

 

The source I think should be:

1-Knowledge/Study

2-Experience

57 minutes ago, dimreepr said:

Yes and No, mostly it's bollox

My English is very very amateur!

I wrote "Wolkx" to the dictionary and there wasn't any meaning 4that

Your answer is like to the same above

Hi,

I chose the number 2.

How!?

I was detested religion then since 2009 i researched and found the Religion is a tool for connection between the Root of The Science and us.

 

Well,

I was just a scientific person and my skills were including Computers[Programming] and repairing electronic/electrical devices.

Well,

All of similar jobs think like me!

How!?

By Algorithm!

Algorithm says:

IF A, then B.

IF X, then Y.

IF L, then M.

IF ... then ....

IF... then return to ...

END.

 

A Logical person, his discussing/debating is based on Algorithm and absolute short answers

But a fool changes his own previous answers depending on next questions by his own self-centering!

 

Well,

I quoted a narration of Bohlul[r.a] and his debating with a self-centered leader[1300years ago] based on Algorithm.

now look at an other narration from the same..
 

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"...once Bohlul arrived in some people were discussing that Where of the earth is the center!

Bohlul replied them: i know which point is the center of the earth..

And i throw my wand and anywhere it falls down, it will be the same center point of the earth!

Then the people asked him: what evidence do you have for your claim???

He said: it's your own problem! And if don't agree with me, then it's you who has to test my claim and from right go to the easternmost, from left go to the westernmost and see how much meters[dhra'] these both have and you will understand that bith are equal together and my saying was right"

 

Well,

As i told before

Bohlul[r.a] proved FreeWill & two other important concepts

 

Then i understood/realized that the Religion is the same maximum degree of the Science also its messengers are the highest ranked Scientists that maybe thousands years later the scientists will discover what they were said!!

As here proves spherical earth!

 

Well,

Those who condemn you and say you are preaching..

You answer them IF these are preaching THEN all of sayings of today's scientists are preaching too!!

How!?

If i mention you that it will be the better if you let your device's battery be completely drained then connect that to the charger, that it will make your battery's lifetime well!

Well,

Is that preaching???

because the owner of the battery's company is aware what is within the battery and what will be the better for that!

 

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@John Cuthber

I claim that I am king of China

https://www.scienceforums.net/?app=core&module=system&controller=content&do=find&content_class=forums_Topic&content_id=123594&content_commentid=1159688

 

Baning one or closing his topic without letting his answer is not a good behavior for a group of people who are scientific brothers together! Such as religious brothers! Specially in a scientific forum!!!

The member John Cothber and me were debating based on Algorithm/Logic!

I quoted that for debating/discussing We have to reference to one of:

1-Experience,

2-Knowledge

Or both

Otherwise we aren't anything but the fool.

 

He brought an example that he claims is king of china.

Well,

Am i a Chinese!???

Nope.

Have I ever gone to china???

Nope.

Am i a follower of events of the china that maybe he has been the king of china or not!???

Nope.

Therefore i am not allowed to deny his claim!

Well, but if one have one or two of the above, for example he says:

Nope! You aren't!

The onus will be on him to refer a source for his denying!

And he says bcz of i am a chinese man and aware that who is the king of my country!

It about the Experience.

And or he says: "i am a political/businesMan and aware that the king of china is another man!"

Then he in continue can reply: "but I has been the king since few minutes ago and you aren't aware!"

 

Or about the lilliput lands that he claimed and nobody is allowed to deny that without having gone there or having opposite knowledge about that!

 

For example the same size of the universe;

We aren't allowed deny that while we haven't ever gone around that and see its correctness or not!

I debate/discuss by Algorithm and it's not against the science!

38 minutes ago, Raniyah said:

In my opinion, Despite the religion, every one see the  god when he/she starts to believe his religious leader from bottom of heart.

Bravoo for saying a thing without certain!

 

15 hours ago, John Cuthber said:

And I can claim to be the king of China.

Well,

I have no any problem for your claim!!

Bcz i don't know who is king of those scorpion/everything eaters.. you or any other.. and don't want to know and it's not important for me.

And don't need to any evidence from you.

 

15 hours ago, John Cuthber said:

That happens a lot.

Most religions say things that are wrong.
https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/biblical-contradictions/
 

Are wrong????

Or you guess "are wrong"!!

I don't aware what wrong there are within other religions and don't want to know until they claim a thing against my Religion, Shi'a-Islam.

Then i research and start the same Algorithm i mentioned in the previous post.

 

15 hours ago, John Cuthber said:

Two problems.

The one making the extraordinary claim has to provide the extraordinary evidence.
And that's you. *I don't have to "prove" that you are wrong, you have to prove that you are right.

As you yourself mentioned, It is your own problem!

And one who makes the extraordinary claim, it's not important for him that one/others agree/believe/accept his claim or not.

And doesn't force others to agreement or not.

 

15 hours ago, John Cuthber said:

No

That essentially never happens.
Religion never accepts that it is wrong- not even when you point out hundreds of problems in the scriptures (see above).
You talk of two groups who have different views on their faith.

 

Yea of course.

Bcz the Religion is the One! As God Is The One!

And those differences are bcz of some people have added/removed something to/from the scriptures.

 

15 hours ago, John Cuthber said:

1-They can't both be right.

2-Did either of them, as you say get" convinced and changed,"?

3-Or are they just killing each other over it?

Bravoo!

1-Therefore the onus is on us to research/seek for the truer!

 

2-Didn't i convince/change in my belief about that topic that i claimed the antichrist is the same satellite orbiting!? I agreed my wrong and won't continue that claim anymore.

 

3-Those are the fools.

I quoted from our Religion that even majority of people of the paradise are fools!

The Foll means = close-minded people who think there isn't any truth over themselves

EVEN IF THEY ARE REALLY THE BESTEST!

23 hours ago, John Cuthber said:

I can't.

They are dead.

Yea.

But they claimed they had experience about conversation/meeting with God The Root of The All and The Science.

 

And we can't deny their meetings until one come and claim things against things they have said.

Then we just can start our researching about both claims and seek for the truer.

 

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Why would I care about the big endians and the little endians arguing about their invisible friend?

I or my Religion hasn't forced you to think about that.

What is the subject of the topic!??

What narration i have quoted!??

Either accept/agree/believe,

Or

Deny/disagree/...

 

But IF you deny that, you have to bring/provide a source for your denying

THEN

Either we will be convinced and changed,

OR

We will have an other opposite source against your source and

THEN

Either you will be convinced/changed

OR

You will bring/provide an opposite saying against ours [with source]..

Again and again and times and again until the debate will be ended well

1 hour ago, John Cuthber said:

You just called all the prophets fools.
I agree with that assessment, but I imagine you didn't mean to do it.

Bravoo!

It seems to be a true debate!

Yea, you thought and understood this signs are matched on the prophets[pbu th]

How!?

Bcz they told people things without any source.

Well,

But i mentioned to other topics that we should bring our sources from:

1-Knowledges

2-Experiences

Otherwise we aren't anything but the fool.

Well,

Ask themselves[prophets] about their sources!

Ask them!

I answered this question before. U can look at other topics i brought link2link

4 hours ago, joigus said:

You assume too much. Shi'a and Sunni Muslims disagree about 'the roots': Who are the rightful heirs of Mohammed, and whether Al Bukhari was right about him and his doings, and probably many more things. I'm sure you know much more about it than most of us here do. It's a 'sources' problem (both about the authenticity of books and/or translations, and about the line of authority) very much like what was for Christians several hundred years ago in Europe between the many Protestant offshoots, and Catholics, and Jews. That led to unimaginable bloodshed between Christians and Jews. We know. Actually, we know much better than you guys do. We've killed each other, we've hated each other for so many more years. Most of us seem to have taken home the lesson. You, unfortunately, haven't.

That's a very big part of the problem, guys. A part of your community seems unable to take home some lessons from your brethren religions that are much older than yours. Jewish and Christians being at each other's throats for centuries. You're still obsessed with a couple of lines in a several-centuries-old book. That's, allow me to say, pathetic. Both in the most ludicrous sense, and in the most tragic one.

Take a look at Mandaeans, Yasidis, etc., and how they've become victims of unspeakable violence in recent years in the Middle East, just because they follow the rituals that their ancestors did. Probably with the same amount of doubt that you do yours. But also take a look at how some Muslims brothers die at the hands of each other because of a difference of opinion. And ask yourself: Is the interpretation of some lines on an ancient book worth the suffering that we see in the world?

The suffering of a child is not worth ten thousand lines of a holy book.

Bvavoo!

First of all you are talking about Al-Bukhari etc what are Sunni's sources..

Second of owl the sentence you have Bolden

"We know much better than you guys do"

It's about the sign of the fool that I explained[quoted] in other topics.

And they have no source for their claims.

Ask themselves.

Also ask me about my own belief means Shi'a with source.

Bring anything you want to deny my belief such as that other topic

3 hours ago, iNow said:

Did you have a point buried in there somewhere?

I notice you quoted me prior to typing this, despite the fact that it does not seem to apply in any rational way to my words. 

Do u know Cnistiano Nonanno the soccer player of Nean Mannin and his fviend means Tuner Messi soccer pnayer of Bnazin!? LoL hahahaaa

1 hour ago, iNow said:

You’ve said many ridiculous and asinine things here, and this comment is no exception. 

It's a sign of a fool person that:

* tells anything to anyone without any source,

* or denies anything from anyone without any source.

Source:

Foolishness Vs Logic

@dimreeprdimreepr discuss with source/Knowledge/reason/experience

47 minutes ago, Sensei said:

Yusef, this is a scientific forum for quantum physicists and scientists from other disciplines... Mostly natural science and computer science disciplines..

...if you would come here and e.g. ask about the difference between pi-meson and phi-meson, that would be example of serious, interesting, fruitful, discussion... appropriate to the level of knowledge of members of this forum..

 

But you have no idea what is pi-meson, nor phi-meson, never heard about them, and how to create them.. You have no idea that they pass through your body every day either.. and what is their connection with cancer..

 

..and then you hear from the doctor "You have cancer!".. your's response is "God's will!"... If you would be smart enough, and learned quantum physics, you would know how cancer is created in human body, and you would not have to mis-refer to "God's will causing your cancer"..

Iran has program to create nuclear weapons. Therefor you are cut off from knowledge and contacts with western scientists.. Therefor there is high probability that you will contaminate Iranian lands with waste from nuclear weapon tests and the number of people having cancers will significantly increase (after decades after tests!).. You (i.e. Iranian people) will say "God's will that I have cancer". When the truth will be that you got cancers because of nuclear contamination caused by your political leaders decisions made decades earlier..

The political leaders of the USA and the USSR contaminated their lands and their citizens.. even on purpose, not pure incompetence.. e.g. ordering soldiers to be in area close to test explosion.. to later measure effects of contamination during dozen of years of their life..

Fivst ov ov this is a Subforum "Religions" and I created this topic here.

Second of off, i mentioned and introduced our Doctrines means "Shi'a-Islam" that is upon the "FreeWill" and you still talk with me about the wrong belief of Sunni-Islam against me who am a Shi'a!! LoL

 

Thitd av ao, i detest this Taghut/Abbasid regime of iran by "Religion-Centering" i mentioned before:

Republic Vs Kingdom

 

Fourth of owl, do you know i'm now in the hospital for my father has been under Corona-Virus and we family all are Coronaing and i have been healed why I acted the commandments of the Religion and never have eaten any chemical tablet... but my family[Simpsons] are all Self-Centered and have been ill

 

And i discussed/debated about the greatest scientists of the history in the previous posts i linked link 2 link

Just i introduce them to you. I don't invite anyone to my minds but introduction

 

11 hours ago, John Cuthber said:

Yusef,

After reading it I didn't really know anything that I didn't know before.

What point did you think the post served?

Neany!??

But i should assume nobody is aware about things such as differences between Shi'a and Sunni

And i should introduce basic info to others to open their minds to realize the better..

As we understood how should we discuss/debate with each other beyond endless conversation:

Introducing a series of thoughts Vs Invite and insisting on that

Hi,

Before reading this narration you should know something:

*AbuHanifa is Imam of majority of Sunni-muslims,

*Imam Ja'far As-Sadeq[S.A.A] is the 6th Imam of the 12Imams of Shi'a-Muslims

[The same 12 stars of the woman of the Revelation of John[pbuh]]

*Bohlul[r.a] was whom the Caliph Harun-ArRashid commanded him to command soldiers to kill the 7th Imam, Moses Al-Kadhem[S.A.A] but he made himself crazy and didn't kill him

Also he was one of the 4000 students of the Imam[S.A.A]

Sunnies reject the FreeWill,

But Shi'a believe in FreeWill + Bada'

 

Well, let's go to the narration

 

Once Bahlul heard Imam Abu Hanifah(who lived in Kufa) telling his disciples that, "I have heard three things from Imam Jafar-As-Sadiq(A.S) which I think are wrong." The disciples asked what those things were. Imam Abu Hanifah said:

"First of all, Imam Jafar-As-Sadiq(A.S) says that Allah cannot be seen. But it is wrong. If a thing does exist, then it must be seen. Secondly, he says that Satan will be punished in Hell. But it is absurd. Because Satan was created from fire; how can fire do any harm to a thing or person made of fire? Thirdly, he says that a man's action is done by the will and power, and that he is responsible for it. But it is wrong because all the actions of man are done by Allah's will and power, and Allah is, actually, responsible for it."

The disciples applaud had just begun when Bahlul took a lump of clay and sent it hurling towards Abu Hanifah. It hit him on the forehead. He cried in anguish and pain. The disciples caught Bahlul and Abu Hanifah took him to the judge. The judge heard the complaint and asked Bahlul whether the allegation was true.

Bahlul: "O Judge! Imam Abu Hanifah alleges that he is suffering from a searing pain in his head because of the clay which hit him. But I think he is lying. I can not believe him until I see the pain."

Abu Hanifah: "You really are crazy! How can I show you the pain? Has any body ever seen a pain?"

Bahlul: "But, O Judge, he was just teaching his disciples that if a thing does exist, then it must be seen. As he cannot show the pain, I submit that according to his own belief, he is not suffering from any pain at all."

Abu Hanifah: "Oh! my head is splitting because of the pain."

Bahlul: Oh Judge, there is another matter which I just remember. He was telling his disicples that as Satan is made of fire, the fire of Hell can not do him any harm. Now man is made of clay, as Quran says, and it was a lump of clay which hit him, I wonder how he can claim that a lump of clay did harm to a man made of clay.

Abu Hanifah: "O Judge! Bahlul wants to go scot-free by his verbosity. Please take my revenge from him."

Bahlul: "O Judge, I think Imam Abu Hanifah has very wrongfully brought me to this court. He was just teaching his disciples that all the actions of man are done by Allah and Allah is responsible for those actions. Now, why did he bring me here? If he really is suffering from the effect of that lump of clay, he should file suit against Allah who did hit him with that clay. Why a poor harmless person like me should be brought to the court. What all I am supposed to do was in fact done by Allah?"

The Judge acquitted Bahlul.

4 hours ago, joigus said:

This is a sophism. I made no claim. I said you are presenting insufficient arguments. And you are, if at all. And I'm being very lenient at that.

It's you who's making the big claims. Prove them.

In the Hadith that you quote --without external reference to a reliable source in English of the Sayings of the Prophet, so that people can check it--, a donkey, a smoking mountain, etc. are mentioned.

Where are they in the picture?

Where is the satellite?

Do you not agree with the translation from Latin Annuit coeptis as the implorative expression "favor our undertakings"?

Your assertions are completely delirious. The onus is on you.

Bring (it on)!

I have to bring those Ahadith here and don't have any obligation anymore.

Because i didn't claim that i'm sure 100% that the Dollar/Satellite are the Antichrist.

I just have to prove the similarities between them.

Here u r:

2 hours ago, Ghideon said:

 

and

There is quite a difference between the satellite and all satellites? Also: not all satellites have a dish at all. Why do you say "One-eyed" and "the dish" and then use examples of for instance Eurostar 3000* series that have "many eyes" = many dishes? 

Regarding the satellites; you have presented no similarities. Also note that my posts have sources showing how your claims regarding satellite similarities are incorrect. You have no sources backing up your claimed similarities.

 

*) Hotbird and Eutelsat for instance, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurostar_E3000
Picture is from Airbus, https://www.airbus.com/space/telecommunications-satellites/eurostar-series.html

 

Bravooo Mr Gideon!

It's a true debate!

And I understood that the similarities i brought, one of them[one-eyed satellite] was incorrect as you yourself mentiond!

Thanks!

And be sure that i am a scientific person and I love these 3 countries more than my own country:

Japan, Germany, USA

And i regard their technologies including the same satellite orbiting that have made us aware for

Knowledges,

GPSs

Etc.

Such as National Geographic, Religious channels, Science channels, News channels, etc..

May God Bless the scientists and help them the more about the science 

18 hours ago, Ghideon said:

You did not answer my question: which satellite you mean. Assuming you mean the first satellite*, Sputnik One: It had no dish (but four external antennas). 

As @joigus said, ambiguity is a big issue here. Or in this specific case it's best described as the opposite, absolutely nothing fits; there were precisely zero satellites in the 18th century.

 

 

*) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_1

 

All satellites...

Hotbird, Eutelsat, Dogsat, Pigsat,.. Specially GEM TVs of Turkey's series

Algorithm

STEP1

One claimed that there are several similarities between the Antichrist with the Dollar/Satellite

STEP2

The onus is on him to prove any source for his claim

STEP3

He brought two Hadiths that verify that

STEP4

One claimant claimed that that's false!

STEP5

The onus is on him for prove any source to denying his claim!

 

Bring!

3 hours ago, joigus said:

Yes, you do. I missed the donkey, I missed the 'smoking mount' --only clouds--, ...

...

When you started talking about satellites you completely lost me. How an image from the 18th century can be telling us about satellites is beyond me.

First of all test yourself here:

What is my source for debate/discussion!?

And tell us when you are debating/discussing with a claimant who claims a thing,

What reason do you have to deny his claim!??

1. Experience,

2. Study,

And if you have one of the above,

How do you prove that you have researched and have been sure that there isn't any EXPERIENCE or DOCTRINES better than what you found!

 

You wrote some words referred to yourself[Bold words i quoted]

And it shows you have put yourself on the center and compare everything with your own mind! and you show us that a thing is false, just for that reason that that is far from your own minds or your own trusted people.

 

I mentiond before

I wrote my own opinion to open others minds!

And am waiting to hear either:

1. Any opposite saying [with source]

Or

2. Any opposite Experience/Knowledge [with source]

Or both.

 

For example you can say:

I was read an Indian holy book that mentions that the Antichrist is fastened above a mount in India!

Well,

We will have a source that we shouldn't look at the Satellite Transmission as the Antichrist. And look/seek/research other source

Then i also will tell you that my opinion is false bcz of ..... source the Indian was introduced 

13 hours ago, Phi for All said:

My opinion of your guess is very low. I think you see a pattern you want to see.

Humans are dependent on pattern recognition to the point where we often force its use. Prophecy and astrology are examples of this. Vague descriptions are easily assigned, and if they're even close we can convince ourselves of a match. 

No i don't want 2 c any pattern i want 2C.

It was nothing but an opinion for open others minds to thinking.

13 hours ago, Ghideon said:

Which satellite?

Are you sure Low noise block downconverters (LNB) are mounted on a satellite in orbit? (LNBs are for receiving the signal on the ground as far as I know)

 

You and Philadelfia have zoomed on what!!

Yea. It's not important that what position the LNB should be.

It is wonderful that several similarities these both have.

As the dish of the receiver should have a frequency compiler, the transmitter should have too. For enter the frequencies around of area of the dish for transmitting

Hi,

Is Crisida Virus[Covid-19] the same Pestilence has been  predicted in the holy books!?

Quote

 

Shia-Hadith:

ـ « بين يدي القائم موت أحمر ، وموت أبيض ، وجراد في حينه ، وجراد في غير حينه ، أحمر كالدم . فأما الموت الأحمر فبالسيف ، وأما الموت الأبيض فالطاعون » 

المصادر :
الفضل بن شاذان : على ما في غيبة الطوسي .
النعماني : ص ٢٧٧ - ٢٧٨ ب ١٤ ح ٦١ - أخبرنا علي بن الحسين قال : أخبرنا محمد بن يحيى ، عن محمد بن حسان الرازي ، عن محمد بن علي الكوفي ، عن إبراهيم بن أبي البلاد ، عن علي بن محمد بن الأعلم الأزدي ، عن أبيه ، عن جده قال : قال أمير المؤمنين عليه السلام : -
الارشاد : ص ٣٥٩ - كما في النعماني بتفاوت يسير مرسلا عن محمد بن أبي البلاد ، عن علي بن محمد الأزدي ، عن أبيه ، عن جده ، قال : قال أمير المؤمنين عليه السلام : - وفيه ( . . كألوان الدم . . فالسيف ) .

"...at the AkheruzZaman[End Times] there will be two types of the death as from each 7 people, 5 of them will be died and those are:

Red death,

White death.

And the Red is the same death by the Sword, and the White is by the Pestilence."

 

 

Well,

I guess it has a secret within! Why has said 5 of 7!??

Isn't it show that it will be while population of the world be 7 billions!?!

Therefore we understand that it should be the same.

Because of the Sign of "7" we have!

XQz me if my English is week also the keyboard does autospelling somewheve also 

4 hours ago, Bufofrog said:

It is difficult to say, because of the obvious language barrier, but I would say, yes.

But I would say Nope!

How!?

Because about any claimant i tell myself: "Who i am that reject/deny some claimants that I haven't had any:

1. Experience about that,

Nor any

2. Study about that,

Nor any

3. Opposite saying about that,

And even if i have one of the above three, i haven't had any 

4. Researching/Seeking that maybe there be any TRUER of them or not.

 

Therefore tell myself that be shut up and don't deny/reject anything you haven't had one of the 4 i mentioned above.

On 9/10/2019 at 1:44 AM, Phi for All said:

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Wokay,

Youv ave vight

Bcz me 2 don't have patience to watch any video without having explaining..

Multiverse Vs Universe

This clip is comparison between the universe which is discovered by today's scientists

with

The Multiverse which is [not discovered]/introduced by eldest and the highest ranked/degree of the Scientists that maybe thousands years later the scientists will discover what they were said..

Well,

Today's scientists have discovered that the earth compared with the cosmos is such as imagine a finger ring has been fallen on the earth!! And it's the aall and edges of the universe!!!

But those Scientists have introduced us that size of this the universe of them is only the 4th earth! And the 4th earth if compare with the 5th, those are such as the finger ring with the desert Sahara!

And the 5th earth compared with the 6th, are the same finger ring with the Sahara,

And the 6th earth to the 7th the same comparison..

Then the 7th earth with the Rooster, the same comparison..

The Rooster with..... upto the Fish...., Rock...., Dark sea..., Dark air... etc...

These all have the same comparison!!!

And the Thora with the Firs Heaven!! Then 2nd Heaven, then 3rd Heaven... etc!!!

At all before watching the clip i should say that this universe what these scientists have discovered and claim it's the all, it's such as imagine into the electron there are all galaxies such as the same and the scientists within that claim that they have discovered the all LOLLLL

shame on those arrogant fools.

 

Can you deny/reject any claimant without having any opposite claimant or experience!?????

Thanks.

But i guess it [the Dajjal] is also the satellite orbiting,

Source: Shi'a-Hadith:

"..he is one-eyed and rides a donkey that each one of its step is 200mil and goes into seas and comes from deserts and the earth will rotate under his feet and each one of his hair has an independent melody and mixes the truth with the false..."

 

Well,

One-eyed = the dish/LNB of the satellite orbiting

goes/comes seas/deserts = spherical earth

many melodies = many channels

Mixing truth/false = all channels

Others are clear.

 

What's your opinions!?

Hi,

How did the designer design this form!?

Compare this image with the Shi'a-Hadith[1400 years ago]:

".... Who the Dajjal[Anti-Christ] is!?

- Be aware that he is one-eyed that doesn't have the left-eye and his right eye is on his forehead and is shining such as the star of the morning! And along him there is a smoked mount and behind of him there is a white mount that seems be foods and he claims that he is god and all people should be his followers...."

 

Who and why/how designed this image!?!!

Hi to all open-minded people

 

• Republic

Quote

Qur'an: "AlNaso aktharihum la ya'qelun"

The people are mostly ignorants/fools[above 50%]

Quote

History: "God Was Chosen Ali[pbuh] to role Muslims, but the people elected Abubakr[the 1st beast of the Revelation] by republic....

 

• Religious

Quote

Shi'a-Hadith: "any flag[religious government] before rising of Sufiyani[the Dragon of the Revelation] is Taghut and will be worshipped but God Azza Wa Jall"

Tell us your opinions with source like as me.

Watch that and enjoy!

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What is your opinion?