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6. New Approach to Anti-gravity [Split from: A New Area Law in General Relativity, questions.]

Mordred, Let's go back to special relativity. What causes the speed of light to be invariant? What does c have to do with the mechanism that causes spacetime? There is a short list of things that travel at the speed of light, photons, virtual photons and globs. We've ruled out photons because SR works without photons. We can rule out gluons because gluons don't have wavelength to measure distance, and frequency to measure time. We can rule out particles with mass because they don't travel at the speed of light. Virtual photons have wavelength states (ruler), frequency states (time) and momentum states (acceleration). Therefore, virtual photons are a good candidate for a mechanism that causes spacetime. Entanglements. Initially I also thought it was like apples in one bag and oranges in another bag. But they proved, I'll have to find it, that the quantum state can be both until it's measured. That proves there is a connection between entangled photons. I think it's frequency states. Science says I should develop a hypothesis and then perform an experiment. Do you agree? We should perform an experiment to try to determine what is between two entangled particles, what is the entanglement made of. Don't you agree?
7. New Approach to Anti-gravity [Split from: A New Area Law in General Relativity, questions.]

Possibly. But we need to experimentally prove that it does. Alternatively, we need to look for quantum entanglements that can endure the process of blueshifting and redshifting.
8. New Approach to Anti-gravity [Split from: A New Area Law in General Relativity, questions.]

What do you mean? Right. I am arguing that the spacetime field is actually made of a large collection of quantum states (frequency, wavelength, momentum). We can infer that because gravity fields cause time dilation (the frequency states are the mechanism of time), spacetime curvature (because wavelength states are the mechanism of geometry) and acceleration (momentum states). Quantum states are things associated with wave functions (mathematics). But it looks to me like the most like candidate of a physical mechanism to cause gravity has certain characteristics. First, it has quantum states. Second, it travels at the speed of light. The most likely things that fit that category are virtual photons and quantum entanglements. Quantum entanglements, are referred to as "spooky" things that connect two particles in a way such that particle 1 has spin |spin A> and particle 2 has |spin not A> when the choices are spin up and spin down. If a phenomena like entanglement has two quantum states at each end, and they're opposite, what is in between? Probably more quantum states. To recap, I think there are some unknown quantum states between the two end states of a quantum entanglement. I think that space and time are caused by mechanisms that have the speed of light built into them as a characteristic. Third, I want to entangle two photons, because it's pretty routine to do so, and try to blueshift the p1 photon and redshift the p2 photon using a centrifuge system. What I expect is that the "suspected to exist" quantum states of the entanglement will start to arrange themselves from smallest to largest. If an experiment showed that to be true, then one could argue that the smallest unit of the spacetime continuum would be a quantum entanglement between two photons. As near as I can understand, which falls short of a proof, is that the entangled states are connected by the mechanistic version of a phase angle of a virtual photon that could include a polarization of the same phase angle. In other words, two entangled particles would have to be mechanistically connected by a characteristic of a virtual photon (which includes polarization). Polarization is when the oscillating E x B field field of a photon is also rotation along the axis of its Poynting vector. Listening. Thank you. I still suspect that this spooky action at a distance, "measure one particle in a state, and you know the state of the other particle", is being accomplished by a virtual photon mechanism. I am interested in the reading the article. I am attempting to get down to the mechanism that causes gravity. I suspect that a quantum entanglement between two particles is the mechanism. When the two particles are photons, the stress energy tensor relationship is insignificant; however, when the p1 photon are blueshifted and the p2 photon is redshifted, the result will be a curvature of the entanglement between them. Since (as I suspect) the entanglement is really a virtual photon which has quantum states (frequency, wavelength, momentum), the gravitational potential energy between the two entangled photons will be stored within the rearranged order of those states, from smallest to largest. This is unknown to physics today. But maybe in the future, this will be experimentally verified (as all physics facts need to be). "Necessary" is the word you would use if you wanted to generate a curvature field with a gravitational potential energy stored within quantum entangled photons. The quantum entanglement is suspected to be the smallest unit of a spacetime continuum. This has never been experimentally verified before. Okay, watch this. P1 and p2 photons are quantum entangled. P1 has a quantum state, p2 photon has the opposite state. Don't know what the state is unless it's measured. [P1 photon][quantum state] ....... ......... ........ ........ spooky ...... ........ unknown ...... ........ ........ what is it? ...... ....... ...... ........ ........ ....... [opposite quantum state][p2 photon] If you're not wondering if the spooky unknown between the two entangled photons is not more quantum states, then what else could it be?
9. Human / Monkey Hybrids in China

I wish I could comment, but this is a science forum.
10. What is the Purpose of Life ?

Make the world a better place.
11. Hijacks from Nature of the soul (split from: When did God put the soul in humans during evolution?)

Probably not. lol But the truth is, I could talk about religion all day. I love it! It has made life better for me and better for so many people. In fact, In America, we fought a revolution to protect those rights.
12. Hijacks from Nature of the soul (split from: When did God put the soul in humans during evolution?)

Anyone who is interested in the big questions, is warned to stay away from science forums like these. Stuff exists, but we're not allowed to talk about it. Good luck.
13. New Approach to Anti-gravity [Split from: A New Area Law in General Relativity, questions.]

Let's go back to the derivation of special relativity. We're trying to figure out the mechanism that nature uses to measure distance and count time. The clue is that the speed of light is invariant for the train or spaceship, AND the outside observer. That means that some that can travel at the speed of light is measuring distance and counting time. I can think of two thinks that fit that description. Photons and virtual photons. A virtual photon is just a unit of action that has the whole range of frequency and wavelength not excited, no real energy to fill those states. I will suggest it's just a wave function of the form $\psi = e^i(k_x*x + k_y *y + k_z*z - \omega t)$. All of these are available quantum states as they (lots of them) fill all space. The point I'm arguing is that momentum, position, frequency states are essential for the existence of spacetime. If that is true, then a small piece of spacetime would need available quantum states as well. Photons by themselves only have filled quantum states. Photons by themselves have nowhere to store gravitational potential energy. But if they're entangled, the entanglement has available states that can become ordered by centrifuging, and will store gravitational potential energy as a result.
14. New Approach to Anti-gravity [Split from: A New Area Law in General Relativity, questions.]

Technically, the idea is to manipulate a small subset of spacetime, which requires far less energy than the stress energy tensor demands. This assumes that we could experimentally confirm that a quantum entanglement between two photons behaves like a very small subset of spacetime. In one of my most optimistic calculations, we could get a gravitational potential energy of .0003*hf per photon. Doesn't seem like much, but the theory is still being worked on. The acceleration vector points from the redshifted p2 photons to the blueshifted p1 photons. So it would be easy to generate a repulsive acceleration field, or an attraction field like a tractor beam. When I've thought about how my idea could be applied to the alcubierre drive, the photons emit from the back at the speed of light, and the front, at the speed of light. Still trying to understand, but looks like like the field generated is several light seconds long, and could protrude out of spacetime, giving access to superluminal travel. But this is still undefended speculation.
15. New Approach to Anti-gravity [Split from: A New Area Law in General Relativity, questions.]

For Alcubierre drive, you want a large positive gravitational potential behind you, and a large but negative gravitational potential in front, so you can fall through space. But there's more to it. Not sure what to call it. Technically it's curvature generation. Or gravity potential generation. But to make it work, we still have to prove, via experiment, that two entangled photons, when p1 is blueshifted with a centrifuge a sufficient number of times, and the p2 photons are redshifted, centrifuged enough times, that the entangled pair, will store gravitational potential within the quantum states of the entanglement, namely the wavelength and frequency states. Tell me your questions.
16. New Approach to Anti-gravity [Split from: A New Area Law in General Relativity, questions.]

If it's not antigravity, then what shall I call it? What I have is an idea for an experiment that can store gravitational potential energy between two entangled photons p1 and p2. If the p1 photons are moved to vector A, and p2 photons are moved to vector B, there will be a gravitational potential energy between them. Since $\vec{F} = -\frac{\Delta U} {\Delta x}$, a mass m will accelerate in this field. If that's not what you call it, then give me another name. Modified gravity?
17. New Approach to Anti-gravity [Split from: A New Area Law in General Relativity, questions.]

Would it make more sense if I showed a picture of the the derivation of special relativity, and showed how time and distance are intimately related to the speed of light. The mechanism of time and distance has c, the speed of light as one of its properties. I can only think of two things that always travel at c: photons and virtual photons. Can we agree on this? The invariance of the speed of light is a postulate of special relativity, a mathematical tool. I think we should tie it to the virtual photon, as the physical mechanism that makes time and distance physical things, measurable things.
18. New Approach to Anti-gravity [Split from: A New Area Law in General Relativity, questions.]

Once you can duplicate gravity, then you can experiment with shapes, black hole curvature. I was concerned that I was not being articulate. I am prepared to explain my hypothesis. But maybe your belief system prevents you from listening. I can't fix that.
19. New Approach to Anti-gravity [Split from: A New Area Law in General Relativity, questions.]

If you know how time and space are mechanistically implemented by nature, you can figure it out antigravity. If you get good at anti gravity, you can design and build an alcubierre warp drive. Then you can ... travel superluminally.
20. New Approach to Anti-gravity [Split from: A New Area Law in General Relativity, questions.]

Can you explain the mechanism that causes the invariance of the speed of light? If you can't, you're looking at it wrong. If you know how time and space are mechanistically implemented by nature, you can figure out antigravity. If you don't. Then ...
21. New Approach to Anti-gravity [Split from: A New Area Law in General Relativity, questions.]

Antigravity is a prerequisite to interstellar travel. I wish the physics community would pursue it. But since they can't come up with a good hypothesis or an experiment, what choice do I have? Ill help you. DID you notice how I derived a force from a linear frequency term? That is worth looking at. I got the idea from gravitational redshift, gravity's effect on light. It won't work in reverse, unless you figure out what is causing gravity.
22. New Approach to Anti-gravity [Split from: A New Area Law in General Relativity, questions.]

You should study the history of science. It took centuries to figure stuff out.
23. New Approach to Anti-gravity [Split from: A New Area Law in General Relativity, questions.]

Step 1, develop a hypothesis Step 2, perform an experiment Step 3, analyze the results
24. New Approach to Anti-gravity [Split from: A New Area Law in General Relativity, questions.]

What makes you believe that antigravity is not possible?
25. New Approach to Anti-gravity [Split from: A New Area Law in General Relativity, questions.]

In the paper I posted, I described the basics of what it would take to create anti-gravity. You take entangled photons, p1 and p2 photons. You use centrifuges to blueshift the p1 photons, and redshift the p2 photons. When you're finished centrifuging them however millions of times it takes to establish a good strong gravitational potential energy along the entanglement between the p1 and p2 photons, you put (store) the p1 photons at position x = -x0 and p2 photons at position x = +x0. These are two positions along the x-axis. If the experiment is successful, then there will exist a gravitational potential energy between -x0 and +x0 equal to the number of p1/p2 entanglements (threads) = nf (the f stands for final number of surviving threads). The total potential energy will be $\Delta U_T = - n_f h\Delta \nu$, where $\Delta \nu = (\nu_2 - \nu_1)$. The p2 photons are redshifted to $\nu_2$ and the p1 photons are blueshifted to frequency $\nu_1$. The potential energy lets you set up a simple mechanics equation $\Delta U = mg \Delta x$ I would love to be able to get deep into the data analysis of such an experiment. I would love to explain the handwaving better to you. But this is what I can do is explain some of the basics and hope you get the idea, and see that this would be a good experiment to perform. The fact that it hasn't been performed gives you nothing to stand on as far as declaring it won't work. You haven't tried. If I can think of anything else that might make this easier to understand, I'll let you know. You should go and look at the PDF I posted. It explains how the experiment would be performed, as much as possible. Incidentally, there is a derivation that I borrowed from gravitational redshift. It's in section 2.3 Graviational redshift.
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