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  1. On 4/17/2019 at 6:44 PM, peterwlocke said:


    what is this plz explain?

    Recognizable information about Reality.

    On 4/17/2019 at 4:37 AM, wtf said:

    What can "objectively sentient" mean? Is your next door neighbor objectively sentient? How do you know?

    The recognition and the reaction on a scenario which is aligned with the recognition and reaction of the general population (i.e killing another human being is bad) 

  2. 1 hour ago, wtf said:

    The quote I questioned said that one can objectively determine sentience in others. A chatbot could say, "Ok my goodness are you ok? That must hurt." That's not sentience. What the objective criteria? As I mentioned earlier, the first chatbot Eliza caused naive people to tell it their innermost secrets. It was a simplistic chatbot with no intelligence at all beyond the ability to repeat phrases. You say, "My toe hurts." It responds, "Tell me more about your toe." People mistook that for sentience. It's the exact same example you're using.

    If your neighbor says his toe hurts, you'll say, "Oh that's terrible, I hope it gets better" But if your washing machine prints out "My toe hurts," you'll call the repairman. Computer scientist Scott Aaronson calls that meat chauvinism.

    Surely you are not so easily fooled by a chatbot, I hope.

    Maybe you just do not recognize sentience. 

    The AI works with big data. My operations(sentient actions) executed on previously learned and processed big data. 

    I think basic sentience in AI is not that far away(if not already exist). 

  3. 3 minutes ago, dimreepr said:

    We all have a different past, who determined yours?

    Everyone and everything I experienced had some level of impact on me. 

    The understanding of this experience is mine. I think that is my personality. 

  4. 21 minutes ago, Eise said:

    Free will is about your capability to act according to your motives, values, and world view, wherever they come from.

    Somewhere we are forced to act upon those values (language, culture, experience, learned knowledge). We have the freedom of choice, built on this past experiences, to act upon on any way we physically can in any scenario. I think that is Freedom.

    My choices are predetermined, but I have the possibility and potential to impact any moment of my life's timeline. The choice is mine and the result is depending on my knowledge, understanding, awareness and of course the most important: the physical circumstances. What it says that freedom of choice is real and it can be impacted. Can something be predetermined and free at the same time? Predetermined because of the past but free in the present moment? Any thought will be built on past experiences. 

  5. On 4/29/2018 at 2:39 PM, DrmDoc said:

    what is faith and why do you have it?

    Faith is sensing and believing in something, that is yet not possible to prove, but the currently observable and available information for us suggest its existence.  

    I have the faith in a God Eise just called:

    "When you ask him, he explains that all the laws of nature he calls 'God' (So God for him is not the 'historical' Yahweh or Shiva, it is an abstract concept.)"

    It is my free will to let evidence-based faith evolve in me.

    It is part of the way how I exist.  

  6. We are predetermined physically, genetically, culturally, socially, educationally, which gives parts to Our intuition and subconscious, impacting every decision we make. Still, at the moment of decision in a scenario, every option for a possible outcome is available and the path of continuance will be determined by my decision. That is mind-boggling freedom. 

  7. On 4/4/2019 at 6:48 PM, Prometheus said:

    What's people's opinions on this: can AI become sentient?

    Taking the wikipedia definition:

     Sentience is the capacity to feel, perceive or experience subjectively

    Can a fundamentally quantitative system really experience subjectivity?

    Personally, given sentience has evolved at least once on Earth, i don't see why it can't manifest from a different substrate. But that's similar reasoning to given i'm alive at least once, i don't see why i can't live again...

    Hello Prometheus, Hello Everybody.

    I think AI can become objectively sentient. It depends on the capability to recognize positive and negative values and information and be able to execute an impact, based on the recognition of the original information. 


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