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46 minutes ago, MigL said:
What is NOT clever is the total misunderstanding of evolution, as Studiot also points out.
A giraffe did not 'grow' a long neck in response to the difficulty of reaching the top branches.
What actually happened was that giraffes with slightly longer necks have a favorable advantage to reaching the top branches.
They then do better than the others ( with shorter necks ) at the survival game.
Over time, this environmental forcing results in longer, and longer necks better adapted for survival.
Really not that difficult if you think about it.See you're not getting what I'm saying. The giraffe didn't say, ok neck, grow longer and the next generation said the same. Something is communicated to to achieve these adaptations. I wouldn't think the giraffe had much say in the process or at least not concious of it.
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On 7/25/2020 at 6:35 PM, Polykephalous said:
Help me out here because I left school when I was 15 to work in a factory so I had to work things out for myself instead of being told how it is by a teacher or an elder. So my understanding of evolution is that if you pick up ten thousand Africans and drop them in Ireland where no other humans of any colour exist, then you return 100,000 later the general population would have evolved to Blue eyed blonds because as soon as they hit ground zero they would have realised that the climate was really cold and they should only choose lighter skin mates, and the cold would prevent the darker skin men from reproducing because of the cold and being of a darker complexion they couldn't resource food as well as the lighter skin men who had all the girls and could sneak up to a vegetable without scaring it away. Have I got it right?
A giraffe grew a long neck so that it could reach the leafs on the top branches, that is so clever!
Ok, so what ponders me is, take the statement about the giraffe, if the giraffe came to realize if his neck was longer he could teach the leafs on high branches then what lines of communication were/are used (in natural selection) to ensure that would happen. It's as if the giraffe told something with a working, thinking mind and (it?) came up with the plan to achieve this.
I mean don't anybody wonder this too about natural selection where all adaptations to all species have become so?
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It's just that some people can control their desires better than others
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Why do some of you just have to be over scientific when responding to a question? You're not helping at all.
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On 5/22/2019 at 11:06 AM, seriously disabled said:
Everyone should have the right to die by suicide if their lives become very miserable and they are really not happy with everything.
I hate how society thinks it has the right to decide for a person that he should continue living a miserable life rather than choosing to die.
My life is my life. It's nobody business but my own. Therefore I am the exclusive owner of my life and I have the exclusive right to decide what to do with it.
And if I am not happy and living a miserable life then I should have the right to end my life if I choose so.
I so agree with you because nobody knows our undesirable thoughts that consume some to the breaking point.
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I wonder if the movement of time in that it's constant is dependent upon the universe expanding?
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I'd be happy to tell exactly in what my true story is on the subject. I would give my back ground and all the details leading up to my not believing in god 4 years ago when I was 51 years old. But what would it matter to someone who still believes? Imo, people can't make you believe or not believe, it is a personal realization that leads to ones decision.
2 hours ago, seriously disabled said:If there is a loving and Omni-capable God then this world wouldn't be so messed-up and cruel to so many people.
Also look at how there's never any scientific evidence for any God. To believe something without evidence is just silly in my opinion.
And no matter what people say humans are not magical beings which are somehow detached from this world, our biological brains follow the same programmed routines as always.
So agree, one can see things are going terribly wrong here on Earth for the bible's depection of such a loving and just god to have created it and run by him. And imo, it will remain as so until the majority of individuals on earth come to the realization there is no god and now it's up to us humans to have real discussions on how to greatly improve things instead of praying out to a god that cant do anything because he cant hear anything because he dont exist.
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On 5/29/2019 at 4:18 AM, DrP said:
Not a scientific reasoning then, just the feels? - That's the same argument a lot of believers use to justify their belief. "Look at the beauty of the world, listen to your heart and decide, I can't possibly see a world without a god".
You've got to forgive yourself and move on. ;-) There are a lot of good things in Christianity - the ability to forgive others and yourself is one of those things. It is understandable why people believed it for so long like CharonY said:
...so why would you have expected to believe anything else? It was what you were taught. It was pretty normal for people to believe it.
Forgive myself? That's quite comical because forgiving myself doesn't apply as I've done nothing I feel is wrong to myself. And another thing christianity is not the creator/basis for being able to forgive nor any other positive aspect of human interaction with another. It makes me pissed knowing our species hasn't evolved into 100% knowing not to believe in such things that others "make up" with no proof whatsoever.
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1 hour ago, et pet said:
To : dimreeper, DrP, swansont ,
When I Posted : "I have never stopped believing in god and I am well beyond my 30's and 40's!" , I was being 100% Honest in answering the question posed in the OP : "What made you stop believing in God?"!
It would be Literally Impossible for me to "stop believing in" any "God" or any "santa claus" or any "easter bunny" or any "honest politician" or any other non-existent fictional creation simply because I have NEVER STARTED TO BELIEVE in any "God" or any "santa claus" or any "easter bunny" or any "honest politician" or any other non-existent fictional creation IN THE FIRST PLACE!
I thought that I had expressed that correctly and clearly by Posting "god"(all LOWER CASE!), instead of "God"(Capitalized!).
This thread has brought up a couple issues :
1. Why does it seem to be assumed/taken for granted by the Moderator, swansont, that any and all who Post on scienceforums.net must "still believe in God " because they have neither had any reason, nor any ability, to STOP "believing in God"? After all, there must be quite a number of people, like myself, that were never burdened with having to STOP simply because they NEVER STARTED BELIEVING IN THE FIRST PLACE!?
2. Why, if scienceforums.net is a real Science Site, were NO Scientific Methods utilized to determine if the Hypothesis/Assumption that the statement "I have never stopped believing in god and I am well beyond my 30's and 40's!" actually means or is the same as the statement I "still believe in God" was correct?
dimreepr and DrP, I apologize that our discussion was wrongly nixed/interrupted due to what seems to be the failure of any application of Real Scientific Methods on what is supposed to be a Real Science Site!
swanson, you have, once again, clearly shown and exercised your abilities and capabilities...As such, I must concur with the question DrP asked of you in this Thread :
1 hour ago, et pet said:To : dimreeper, DrP, swansont ,
When I Posted : "I have never stopped believing in god and I am well beyond my 30's and 40's!" , I was being 100% Honest in answering the question posed in the OP : "What made you stop believing in God?"!
It would be Literally Impossible for me to "stop believing in" any "God" or any "santa claus" or any "easter bunny" or any "honest politician" or any other non-existent fictional creation simply because I have NEVER STARTED TO BELIEVE in any "God" or any "santa claus" or any "easter bunny" or any "honest politician" or any other non-existent fictional creation IN THE FIRST PLACE!
I thought that I had expressed that correctly and clearly by Posting "god"(all LOWER CASE!), instead of "God"(Capitalized!).
This thread has brought up a couple issues :
1. Why does it seem to be assumed/taken for granted by the Moderator, swansont, that any and all who Post on scienceforums.net must "still believe in God " because they have neither had any reason, nor any ability, to STOP "believing in God"? After all, there must be quite a number of people, like myself, that were never burdened with having to STOP simply because they NEVER STARTED BELIEVING IN THE FIRST PLACE!?
2. Why, if scienceforums.net is a real Science Site, were NO Scientific Methods utilized to determine if the Hypothesis/Assumption that the statement "I have never stopped believing in god and I am well beyond my 30's and 40's!" actually means or is the same as the statement I "still believe in God" was correct?
dimreepr and DrP, I apologize that our discussion was wrongly nixed/interrupted due to what seems to be the failure of any application of Real Scientific Methods on what is supposed to be a Real Science Site!
swanson, you have, once again, clearly shown and exercised your abilities and capabilities...As such, I must concur with the question DrP asked of you in this Thread :
To et pet. Omg ( no pun intended) I think you're a brillant individual in all you said, the way you said it as I too feel the same way all the way down to no capitalization of the subject matter name. I always make damn sure I correct the auto correct for typing on my mobile device when I use that "word" in any application that warrants it. Anyway your rendering is so spot on I had to elaborate.
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4 hours ago, DrP said:
Not a scientific reasoning then, just the feels? - That's the same argument a lot of believers use to justify their belief. "Look at the beauty of the world, listen to your heart and decide, I can't possibly see a world without a god".
You've got to forgive yourself and move on. ;-) There are a lot of good things in Christianity - the ability to forgive others and yourself is one of those things. It is understandable why people believed it for so long like CharonY said:
...so why would you have expected to believe anything else? It was what you were taught. It was pretty normal for people to believe it.
What I realized also is that we don't need to believe there's a god to be good, nor a devil to be bad. All those years I thought it was my belief in god that made me do good and not do bad but I haven't changed in that sense. Anyway I came to my own conclusion there was no god having no input from anyone on the subject. Another thing is when I believed in god I was prejudice somewhat toward other people but now I'm not. I think it's so ignorant for people to pray to god thinking all things will be handled by this (non existent) being and until everyone comes to this realization that no such being exists it's up to us to make this world a better place.
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7 hours ago, DrP said:
Was in my 40s.
I was 51 damn years old when I finally wised up. How I wish I would have been much younger when I realized. So for 51 years of my life I lived a lie. That pisses me off.
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12 hours ago, dimreepr said:
Not to mention arrogant, although I guess you covered that.
Like I said I'm not swayed into making a decision on what another one says, like you in this instance, go ahead and remain ignorant in your thinking cause I can make decisions on my own by what I perceive to be good and in my best interest. How ignorant it is to make a decision based on what others think. For the record you haven't a clue about who I am and what I know. Now run along.
12 hours ago, dimreepr said:Not to mention arrogant, although I guess you covered that.
Immature and dont esentially know squat about life. Now you run along too.
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On 5/9/2019 at 3:05 PM, Intrigued said:
Yourself.
Now why would I post it here only mattering to me when it's already jotted down in my mind?
On 5/9/2019 at 11:50 PM, MandanMaru39 said:This must be not so difficult to understand ,
There are many people from different backgrounds that represent religion .
Religion is mostly represented by people without much knowledge in it .
So it might have become a dull subject simply to spam the boards .
Its not always the case , Anyway religion nowadays is represented by people with very narrow perspectives .
It should be more like
If a god in this universe exist , What would it be like ?
OK , So i have stopped believing in god because people representing it have ruined it .
People, better yet nobody in this world sways my decisions about anything. In what they say or say they feel.
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And Lawrence is 100% correct in my views. When you understand "why" the bible was written you understand why no loving god that's depicted in it can and don't exist .
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Wow have I got some things to say but who will it matter to? Just saying.
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On 3/21/2017 at 6:31 PM, pandabear88 said:
Or does anybody know of the scientific explanations for empath's abilities? By "empath" I mean people who claim to experience the emotions of people near them. The only explanations I've found are "mirror neurons" and "mirror-touch synesthesia", but I want to know if other explanations exist.
Any links to peer reviewed articles, or articles written by reputable authors would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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Well, lol I google searched it and the results pretty much gave truth to this. Water isn't wet until it comes in contact with something else. I just can't wrap my head around that..
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I can tell you this. I'm an introvert, have been all my life, the ones I've had sexual relations with are ones I was attracted to and quite specific as in anyone who don't meet the qualities I desire don't cut it for me. Interestingly, they were each extroverted.
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Someone I work with told me that water is not wet. If this is true that's the simplest way to fully understand this?
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Was that really necessary to post your "we knew that yesterday" comment. And it is exciting for myself and I'm sure it will be for others. I have no formal education on the subject matter either, I'm too like you in that I search and research things of interest. There's things I bet I'm more knowledgeable of that you're not but at the end of the day any science subject that more and more people get interested in is always an exciting prospect even if I'm not pursueing it at the moment.
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2 minutes ago, QuantumT said:
It's just standard biology and evolution. Nothing new or mind-blowing about it.
Surely so! Do you have any education on the subject?
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On 3/10/2019 at 6:09 PM, QuantumT said:
There's nothing inevitable about life. The first living cell was a true miracle. A miracle that included two very complex ingredients and one amazing ability: RNA, the mitochondrion and the ability to split into two identical entities. It baffles me to just think about it.
Many theists think this is a sign of divine intervention, but it really is just crazy crazy luck!Oh my, I feel the same exact way, all life just frigging happened, period, with no help or intervention from a being that had any kind of process to make a plan with any desired outcome.
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Ponder that for a minute. To me that would explain the giantnormous diversity of humans to humans and species to other species. All living things. Especially since we know when DNA copies itself it makes errors..
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Lol, I have not the slightest intention of "testing" the idea. It's merely a thought as I said.
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Natural Selection.... No s###!
in Evolution, Morphology and Exobiology
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First let's get one thing straight
First off, you need not assume I'm a "he" because I'm not.
We can get into all sorts of examples for you to understand what I was asking. But since nobody knows what's communicated as far as all adaptations of all species and to "whom" then I have no choice but to keep wondering.