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On 7/14/2022 at 10:02 AM, Markus Hanke said:

The trouble is that MOND is a non-relativistic theory, so comparing it to standard cosmology is kind of useless. At a minimum you’d have to use one of its relativistic generalisations - TeVeS being the most common and popular. And here’s where the issues start, because TeVeS has some serious problems, both so far as observational data is concerned, and in terms of mathematical consistency. 

And even if you could get it to work properly, you end up with various extra vector and scalar fields that are needed in the model - for which of course there’s no experimental evidence whatsoever. So in the end you just replace Dark Matter and Dark Energy with a bunch of extra unknown fields. It really doesn’t solve anything, on a conceptual level.

Thanks for letting me down easy. Again.

So you read the full study?

Thank you very much for your replies and the links.

But I get the feeling that you didn't bother to read the OP article, and might be unaware of the extensive research put into it. It's not a new attempt based on old data, but a comparison between the two models, based on recently discovered shortcomings (of CDM) and (fixed) computational mistakes.

Here's a few key excerpts.

Comparing CDM and MOND after error correction:

Diagrams:

Conclusion:

The full study:

https://www.mdpi.com/2073-8994/14/7/1331/htm

Note: Being from a not-English-speaking country I might have chosen some wrong words to describe certain things. Sorry about that.

I'm just the messenger, and wanted the opinions of you fine gentlemen.

Sorry for putting this in the wrong section. It sounded like news to me.

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We can model the motions of planets in the Solar System quite accurately using Newton’s laws of physics. But in the early 1970s, scientists noticed that this didn’t work for disc galaxies – stars at their outer edges, far from the gravitational force of all the matter at their centre – were moving much faster than Newton’s theory predicted.

This made physicists propose that an invisible substance called “dark matter” was providing extra gravitational pull, causing the stars to speed up – a theory that’s become hugely popular. However, in a recent review my colleagues and I suggest that observations across a vast range of scales are much better explained in an alternative theory of gravity proposed by Israeli physicist Mordehai Milgrom in 1982 called Milgromian dynamics or Mond – requiring no invisible matter.

Mond’s main postulate is that when gravity becomes very weak, as occurs at the edge of galaxies, it starts behaving differently from Newtonian physics. In this way, it is possible to explain why stars, planets and gas in the outskirts of over 150 galaxies rotate faster than expected based on just their visible mass. But Mond doesn’t merely explain such rotation curves, in many cases, it predicts them.

https://theconversation.com/dark-matter-our-review-suggests-its-time-to-ditch-it-in-favour-of-a-new-theory-of-gravity-186344

So, the question is: Is Mond good enough to gain consensus favor?

The suggestion I like the most, about the nature of DM, is also the most simple, and least mysterious: Ground state hydrogen

https://www.intechopen.com/chapters/71525

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11 hours ago, storyteller said:

 

From what I understand so far about Particle Physics, strong nuclear force is what elementary particles together, such as 3 quarks to form a hadron particle, like a proton or neutron. And as you would know, protons and neutrons make up certain atoms, eg deuterium nuclei, helium nuclei, lithium nuclei, which would have existed before, although hydrogen nuclei don’t have neutron. These atoms with no electrons attached to them (ionized atoms) were formed during the Primordial Nucleosynthesis.

And from what I understand about CMBR in the Big Bang model, the CMBR occurred because electrons bonded with ionized atom nuclei, for the first time, creating electrically neutral atoms, during BB’s Recombination Epoch. The bonding causing the EM radiation, by decoupling photons, as well as leaving heat signatures everywhere in the universe, that we now view as Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation.

So, I don’t think strong nuclear forces have anything to do with CMBR.

I was referring to the split-second after the big bang, when there were only heat, radiation, quarks and electrons. My hypothesis was that the intense heat, present at that moment, turned into gluons. I was wrong. The math don't work. (Although I am not sure it our current math applies to that specific moment.)

But I'm quite sure swansont knows what he's talking about. So I must be wrong.

Due to the enormous distances in space, alien visitors are extremely unlikely. How would they even find us? A lucky coincidence? Nah....
Underground people?! C'mon!
To travel back in time violates the laws of nature.

That only leaves one option. An option that sounds ridiculous, unless we live in a simulation...

That is why option number two got my vote. It seems like woo, but it isn't, in a simulated reality.

Thank you!

Existence, the universe and how nature works, is constantly on my mind. I can't help myself. I just want to learn as much as I possibly can about reality, and I will probably keep wondering about it 'till the day I die.

Sometimes I get an idea, that I've never heard about, and I think 'wow, that makes sense', so I google it to see if it's a well known theory. Sometimes it is, sometimes it's not, and sometimes I get nothing. Not even a repudiation. This is one of those. So here goes:

Could most of the heat from the big bang have turned into the strong nuclear force? (The rest would then be the CBR.)

Thank you, in advance, for taking time to consider my question.

3 minutes ago, beecee said:

No stupid questions. The 2D surface of the balloon represents the 3 spatial and 1 time dimension of spacetime. It is an analogy based on the BB, where all of spacetime was squeezed to within the volume of an atomic nucleus...there is no outside to speak of...no inside, no "before time" and no "before space" as we know them. Remember the BB is not a theory on how the universe/space/time started, it is a theory of the evolution of spacetime from t+10-43 seconds...before that, our models and theories fail us.

Thank you! So the universe, as a whole, has no geometry?

If the universe has the geometrical shape of a balloons surface, a hollow sphere, does it then have a true vacuum in the middle?

Sorry if my question is stupid, but the shape itself is something I've always wondered about. Please don't downrate me.

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Scientists have developed a new kind of cryogenic computer chip capable of functioning at temperatures so cold, it approaches the theoretical limit of absolute zero.

This cryogenic system, called Gooseberry, lays the groundwork for what could be a revolution in quantum computing – enabling a new generation of machines to perform calculations with thousands of qubits or more, whereas today's most advanced devices comprise only dozens.

https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-achieve-transformational-breakthrough-in-scaling-up-quantum-computers

32 minutes ago, StuartLeDrew said:

How did we come from nowhere?

There is quantum fluctuation, there is zero energy universe, there is M-theory and there is conformal cyclic cosmology. Take your pick.

There are plenty of ways to come from nowhere. The universe is not necessarily limited by our need for logic.

1 hour ago, Ghideon said:

Wild guess and questions:

Fan spinning fast sounds like CPU is working hard. Which process is working hard? You may be able to see the program's name in the windows task manager.
Do you have any antivirus software or similar scanning the downloaded data? That software could be degrading when having many connections.

I tried to remove the limit on my bittorrent, while downloading, and it showed the bittorrent client taking up to 50% of the CPU. Another 10% went to my firewall, and up to 10% went to "systeminterrupts".

qBittorrent: 40-50%
Zonealarm: 7-10%
Systeminterrupts: 5-10%

20 minutes ago, StringJunky said:

Can you reduce the uploading amount to the other peers? It sounds like excessive demand on your system trying service too many requests at once. Like Windows Update in its current guise downloads the update files whilst supplying your files to other PC's... it can create too much traffic for the system's specs.

My bittorrent is reduced to max 50, which often gives low DL speed. Any lasting solutions?

6 minutes ago, MigL said:

Maybe you're dyslexic.
And you meant to say "multiple beers"

No. It's the same when I drink water, coffee, red wine, whisky and gin.

I've been having a persistent problem for over a year now. Every time I download something from multiple (40+) peers, my whole system starts lagging fiercely, the cooling fans run berserk and I can hardly control my mouse. It only happens when there are many connections, like in Windows Update or when I download bittorrent files/content (all legal of course!).

I've tried updating my LAN and mouse drivers many times. Doesn't help. I've also googled it countless times, but no help there either.

Is there any system files, that manages connections, that could be corrupt?

I run Windows 10 Home on a Lenovo 81HN V130 i5 laptop.

21 minutes ago, Phi for All said:

Expansion happened EVERYWHERE, all at once. No center, nothing to expand into.

20 minutes ago, Ghideon said:

As far as I know, according to accepted models: On large scales every location will be a center of expansion. All observers will observe distant objects mode away from them. 

Yes, I know. Like the surface of a balloon. But once that balloon was small. Once everything was located in a singularity.
If you look at this simulation of our universe, there is a place in the middle, where the distance to the furthest away stars is equally long in all directions. Right?

On 12/26/2020 at 3:43 PM, Ghideon said:

That seems to be a common misunderstand of the Big Bang model. There was no point in space that Big Bang "happened" ,Big Bang is an event that took place everywhere. 

Isn't there a location in the universe, that everything is moving away from? Sort of an expansion "ground zero"?

18 minutes ago, swansont said:

At this point, we don’t know that their solution brings anything new to the game. What they’ve done is come up with the same answer we already have.  

It looks to me like they have explained complex macro phenomena with a quantum sized starting point. They just scale it up, and it works (they say).

I, for one, am looking very much forward to getting more details!

7 minutes ago, swansont said:

One question that leaps to mind is that they claim this is about waves vs particles, which is QM, but their approach is a GR problem, which is classical. And they don’t give any details about how they solved the problems, beyond “energy fragment” GR uses energy, so this isn’t particularly illuminating 

Perhaps they're attempting a ToE?

12 minutes ago, swansont said:

Or discuss, or evaluate.

10 minutes ago, MigL said:

How does it do with Gravitational waves and Black Holes ?
Both predicted by GR, and verified.

I guess we'll have to wait till more details are made public.

2 hours ago, swansont said:

Are you proposing to explain and defend this idea? Because the article contains insufficient detail to meet the standard of speculations.

The finer details are behind a paywall, so it's not easy to defend.

I'm not sure it it helps, but they do offer a glimpse of the math:

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For the math and physics aficionados, it is defined as A = -⍺/r where ⍺ is intensity and r is the distance function.

The math should cover the definition of "energy that flows".

And their conjecture does rival GR's ability to explain the bending of light and the slight rotation of Mercury's orbit:

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For the precession-of-Mercury problem, we modeled the Sun as an enormous stationary fragment of energy and Mercury as a smaller but still enormous slow-moving fragment of energy. For the bending-of-light problem, the Sun was modeled the same way, but the photon was modeled as a minuscule fragment of energy moving at the speed of light. In both problems, we calculated the trajectories of the moving fragments and got the same answers as those predicted by the theory of general relativity. We were stunned.

Our initial work demonstrated how a new building block is capable of accurately modeling bodies from the enormous to the minuscule. Where particles and waves break down, the fragment of energy building block held strong. The fragment could be a single potentially universal building block from which to model reality mathematically – and update the way people think about the building blocks of the universe.

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Matter is what makes up the universe, but what makes up matter? This question has long been tricky for those who think about it – especially for the physicists. Reflecting recent trends in physics, my colleague Jeffrey Eischen and I have described an updated way to think about matter. We propose that matter is not made of particles or waves, as was long thought, but – more fundamentally – that matter is made of fragments of energy.

https://theconversation.com/fragments-of-energy-not-waves-or-particles-may-be-the-fundamental-building-blocks-of-the-universe-150730