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buzsaw

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  1. I'm not educated in physics, but thinking logically, I agree. In a void, there would be nothing to draw ones arms down, or in any particular position as it's the earth's gravity which pulls them down. It seems that if one's total body began spinning, ones arms would simply position wherever one positioned them since there would be no gravity powerful enough to cause a significant gravitational effect.
  2. Yah, fine, and thanks for the apology, though your relatively insignificant majority, when we're talking billions makes the tally roughly equal, given there could be some plus or minus for either groups. You do make a valid point, however, in that the tally may have been taken from census interviews rather than from church roles. I don't know about that, as how it's done. I do know that the various denominations do have their own count as to the number in their various groups. I have other stuff to do and will get back when I can. Take care.
  3. This, I'm well aware of. You need to please go back to where I said it, read Mokele's statement to which I was responding to see why I posted the question. My point was that Mokele was, imo, erroneously using the croc thing to refute a previous statement of mine, which you also need to read in order to adequately respond to my post. You seem to brush over a few statements and respond out of context with what comes to your mind, misconstruing my point. Again, please read all the context carefully of both me and my counterpart before rushing to judgement. Ditto to above Go read. I did not address whether the flood was proven, but that if there was a flood, conditions before it would have been different. .......And you're yipping yada, my friend, without carefully reading context. I believe darkkazier has made a valid assessment of at least sizeable blocks of this thread. So far it's been a turkey shoot. You and your friends need to challenge me with some more substantive arguments, don't you think?
  4. OK, my friend, now let's you and me stop right here and get one thing straight. Did you, or did you not post in message 86 of this thread the following statement?
  5. Knowledge of the history of our planet, the historical stuff which pertains to humanity on earth, imo, is important knowledge to have. That's why we're all here in these discussions and debates, is it not, to arrive at the truth in that persuit of knowledge, and yes, that includes the knowledge of that dimension of existence which some of us have experiantially evidenced and which we call the supernatural dimension of existence. True science, imo, involves the possibility of much of which has yet to be discovered and understood. True scientists keep their minds open to every avenue of possible existence relative to their fields of study, do they not? Who would've believed three centuries ago that as per the Biblical prophecy of Revelation 11:9 and other similar prophecies that all the nations could at one time observe an event happening in one specific location of the planet. Heck, few laymen thought that was possible back in the '30s when I was born.
  6. Most likely doesn't cut it with stuff I say, and I don't think so with yours either, so that leaves our conjectures about equal, imo, since millions of other endotherms also survived. Big gamers gotem all, every last one, little ones, big ones and all, in every obscure nook & corner of the planet? Them critters must've been DELLLLICIOUS!! ......And these lizzards too, not called dinosaurs either, are they? I'M being intellectually dishonest? .........And most of us creationists don't subscribe to a teensy submicroscopic bit of space, far, far tinnier than the proton of an atom, expanding to become the entire existing universe that we observe! Who's tale is most believable? We all need to observe and decide that for ourselves, realizing, of course, alas, that the secularist rules the science forums and classrooms where the youthful minds are programmed, at least for this moment in time. Go back and reread, my friend. I cited pre-flood atmospheric conditions, et al which, to go into in depth, would require a new topic. Likely that's been discussed before here, but I don't know. At any rate you can find stuff on it on google. PLEASE, PLEASE, cut and paste documentation of my specific lie, Mokele. You can't and you know it!! Put up or shut up, by documenting where you've sufficiently refuted any of my statements, my friend. C'mon, produce the goods! It's your turn for a bonafide refute. I've refuted so much of some of you people's stuff that I'm becoming refutingly weary.
  7. Hi Phi. Ok, I'll drop the word "officially." You still loose. In all due respect, Christianity was not created by the RCC!. It was created by the christ of Christianity and the apostles, as per the Biblical record, regardless of when that record got into the hands of the RCC segment of Christianity. Christianity existed for three centuries before Roman Catholicism's version of the church. I've documented that. If you reject the Biblical record on that, I can't help you, but please don't ask me to stop posting documented facts. The references, btw, for the verses I cited are Acts 2:47 and Acts 11:26 What has that got to do with the creation of Christianity, which had historically been in existence for 300+ years and in the fact that the RCC was instumental in taking some early manuscripts of a 300 year old religion and publishing them? And, btw, the early manuscripts were being read and preached by Christians since the first century when most were first given to the churches, churches which physically existed in many cities those first three centuries. Much of the church, went underground during the dark ages of the RCC bloody inquisitions, purging out all nonofficial churches. In all due respect for your authority here, I do think you need to deal with your own dogged buligerency in this matter. Are you trying to create your own personal bully pulpit here or something? I brought it up because these, including myself are not included in the tally of Protestant Christians, whereas all persons who were ever baptized in the RCC are indeed officially counted in the tally, unless they are officially excommunicated, and that is rare, indeed. . Fine. Scratch that. I concede to your point here. Did I miss something? Please apprise me as to where I said evolution needs a divine hand or that I said it doesn't deny one. Please reread. I did neither, that I'm aware of. I simply asked why any evolutionust would want or need a diety, since many evolutionists are theists as well as deists. As I understand rm and ns, it is strictly a random and natural process, without the intervention of id/intelligent design. Please apprise me if mistaken here. . Fyi, I am not a yec, and I don't subscribe to the 24 hour day until day 5, since there's no Biblical indication that sun, moon and stars determined the length of the first four days, including the day the sun, moon and stars were created, stars here, likely those closest to earth and maybe the Milky Way galexy. The specifics on all this are not given in the scriptures, nor need they be, since it's info we really don't need to know.
  8. Mmm, how does that work...........a true universe being infinite, yet expanding??
  9. Thanks, Severian for the very refreshing and sensible post. Btw, it's not only at SFN. It's a problem in other science boards also, such as Percy's EvC where Percy is ever so strict with creationists, to the point where he runs an exclusive biased club over there, imo. I know, after my active 2 year sojourn over there.
  10. Why is it poor argument, given that uni = one? Imo, one means exactly that.......one. To this old timer, expanding on that so as to come up with one = multiples obviously obfuscates. The sky seems to be the limit with modern mainline science apologetics, while Biblical creationist apologists are held to strict guidelines in the field of science.
  11. .........Or, just maybe as per LTD 1, As per the Biblical record and as per my buzsaw hypothisis, everything, including unbounded space has forever existed in one form or another in the universe!
  12. What I don't understand is why an evolutionist even considers a god? For what? And wouldn't any god need to evolve to exist for the evo?? How does that work??
  13. Oh, so that's how it works? Forum guidelines, as stated apply only to creationists, or am I missreading them? ...Or missreading you?
  14. Let's recap your original statement regarding this, Phi. The Christian religion was, in fact officially created by Jesus the christ of Christianity and his apostles, was it not? We read in the NT that as many as were saved, were added (to the church) and we also read in the NT that they were first called Christians at Antiock I'm going by memory and can look up the references if you'd like. This was all in the first century! 1. Many protestant churches purge those from their rolls who become inactive and many baptized adherants such as myself are not even members of specific churches. 2. No, US Christians aren't the only ones who count, but I was making this observation since this is our nation, a significant one. I'm aware that in some nations the majority is Catholic. Ok, so you're right by a tiny majority. It looks like a more accurate assessment would be that roughly half are RC. Can you name one thing that evolutionists credit Jehovah god of the Bible with having anything to do with designing or creating? My understanding is that the evolutionist adheres strictly to random mutation (rm) and natural selection (ns). Right? What role does this leave Jehovah god of the Biblical record with in creation?
  15. But my point was the problem of all the dinosaurs dying off, every last one, while nearly all of the rest belly crawler reptiles survived. What's wrong with that picture? I believe my hypothesis provides a viable answer. These are still basically belly crawlers. There's flukes in many areas of creation such as the flying squirrels. Evidently there exists a problem with mainstream's theory on this which I'm attempting to deal with here. Show me a single peer-reviewed journal article that would even consider factoring in anything in the Biblical historical record as a possibility. LOL! Isn't it a tad against forum guidelines, accusing a fellow member of lying without sufficient evidence that there was intent to lie? It is indeed meanspirited for you to do so.
  16. Evolution pretty much denies the Biblical creator god, Jehovah as per the Biblical record, the existing one who, according to that record was suppose to have created and designed that which exists. I don't see how you can get around that. In effect, the evolutionist's god is some pseudo god who did nothing and continues to do nothing. LOL!
  17. It would be helpful if you'd use the quote button so readers know who you're responding to. If you're responding to me, I don't think there was a big bang.
  18. 1. uni=one..........one verse. There's only one imo. One has nothing to collide with. 2. If the universe is everything existing, there's no membranes not included in the universe and there's no higher dimension. Everything existing exists within the universe. Imo, this attempt to redefine and obfuscate the word universe is counterproductive to coming to a correct and logical understanding of the universe.
  19. Mmmm, pardon for being nosey, but what nationality are you? Would you mind elaborating a bit on this interest? Bear in mind, of course that I am aware that people apprised on explosives are needed in many industries as well as the military, national defense, et al. Edited to add: Welcome, Evangelante,.....................I think, but do be careful!
  20. Right on, Herme. The Bible was written by about 40 different people, ranging from shepards to kings, and over roughly a 1400 year period, so unlike the Book of Mormon or the Quran, it's not based on the credibility of one man. It is indeed a credible book of the history of the world from beginning to end, the end times being prophesied and so far right on target.
  21. Uh,...... mmm.......well, maybe not what one would say is a deliberate hoax, but methinks ye'all need to factor in more stuff to come to the knowledge of the truth.
  22. ........and in the meanttime' date=' [i']they bury their mistakes.[/i] Scores of thousands die yearly from drug side effects, to the point that on a number of drug containers, among the side effects are death!
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