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Still I don't see the link between astral projection - a phenomena with no scientific evidence - and the claim that Kaku said that mathematics, order and symmetry in the Universe points to a creator?

 

Again, we are quite sure that the OP is based on a hoax. That said, Kaku has spoken of 'god as a mathematican' and so on. We doubt he is really talking about god as understood in mainstream religion.

there is science proof of projection, look up on google, there is a scienctist who did some experiments, he montitord a person who claimed she could astral project at will, he wrote down images and phrases on a sheet of papper, then put it on a shelf near the ceiling, told the lady to project and read the paper, she did and was 100% accurite .

also, look up robert monroe, the founder of the monre insitute, his studies show that when a person listens to a binaral frquency in the theta range, that personusually experiences leaving there body and being extremly aware of them self while it happens

Still I don't see the link between astral projection - a phenomena with no scientific evidence - and the claim that Kaku said that mathematics, order and symmetry in the Universe points to a creator?

 

Again, we are quite sure that the OP is based on a hoax. That said, Kaku has spoken of 'god as a mathematican' and so on. We doubt he is really talking about god as understood in mainstream religion.

there is science proof of projection, look up on google, there is a scienctist who did some experiments, he montitord a person who claimed she could astral project at will, he wrote down images and phrases on a sheet of papper, then put it on a shelf near the ceiling, told the lady to project and read the paper, she did and was 100% accurite .

also, look up robert monroe, the founder of the monre insitute, his studies show that when a person listens to a binaral frquency in the theta range, that personusually experiences leaving there body and being extremly aware of them self while it happens

see, you were so sure there was no proof simply because you lack the knowledge, think about ways to improve yourself, dont stay stuck in your own little bubble clutterd with your current beliefes

 

Yeah, it's awesome isn't it?

 

 

 

No one knows the whole story, but we do know enough to suggest this is how things are. As for the rest we have top people working on it. Top people.

 

 

 

God no, you're not the only one. Just about every religion posits there must be something more. Why? Because there simply must be. Not great reasoning, but it convinces many people. Apparently being a part of a universe that has become self-aware such that it can ponder the fact of its own existence is not amazing enough. Maybe a shift of perspective is needed: you are not in the universe - you are it: as much as any one drop is the ocean. What more do you want - to be more important than 'just' a drop?

yes! everything is connected! i think every thing that exist is here because we made it here, i think this because i have died once and was brought back, while i was dead, my awarness was shifted away from the physical, its like i suddenly rememberd everything, and i just knew, i could merge back into my original self, somehow i just knew that everything that has ever exist simply comes from consciencness, there was this sense that im part of everything and that everything was just a part of me. my experience from death has changed my perspective on a lot of things, i now practice astral projection and meditation daily.i even manage to astral project a few times a week now, each time i do, i learn more, my journeys become more vivid and i begin to remember more of my journey each time.truly amazing.

This does not seem to be tied with special or general relativity. You seem to be talking about psychological perceprtion of time. In physics we like to use clocks and rulers in order to remove this personal perception of time and distance.

do you really not get it?

i made it as simple as possible.

have you visualized what i was talking about?

time dilates itself.....

when einstien said he visualized himself riding a particle of light, everything had to be slowed down, do you relize why that is?

the faster one travels=the more mass it has=the more energy it has=the more time dilates.

mc2, equation in German-born physicist Albert Einstein’s theory ofspecial relativity that shows that the increased relativistic mass (m) of a body comes from the energy of motion of the body—that is, itskinetic energy (E)—divided by the speed of light squared (c2). This equation expresses the fact that mass and energy are the same physical entity and can be changed into each other.

each other.

 

I don't understand.

 

 

Again, I don't understand. 10 feet is 10 feet... that is why we pick universally agreed on units.

 

 

 

 

 

I don't understand your point.

 

 

 

Maybe...

 

it does not matter if its not possible or not to be so huge.

its the principle that matters.

 

 

What principle?

 

It seem you have described a personal perception of time and distance ... this is no good for physics. I think you are misunderstanding the notion of observers and so on.

 

 

I am not sure what to change it to. However, the closest thing I can think of is the question of a rotating disk or the simpler rigid pole.

 

 

 

I think that Einstein used the spinning disk and not an elevator in is 1916 paper on the equivalence principle.

you my friend, are lost, seems like the only ones who can hold this type of convo with me are the well educated.not trying to be rude, but it seems like you "think" you understand relativity, while in reality, that notion is flying way over your head, its nothing to be botherd about though, i totally understand why alot of people have misconceptions when it comes to this, its a very tricky subject to tackle, even some of the brightest graduates have difficulties understanding the universe as it truly is.

but i would love for you to prove me wrong, here is what i propose, take your understanding of relativity, and explain it as a thought experiment, create a scenerio that will show how well you understand something, just as i did.make me understand.

Yes. You can take a small pieces of the pole and look at their linear velocity and confirm this.

 

 

 

No, unless you are trying to think about relativistic mass - so don't and just think in terms of rest mass of uniform pieces of your pole.

 

 

Yes, for a given distance (and by pull you mean force per unit mass on a test object). Just use Newton's gravity to see this.

 

 

Nope. Forget relativistic mass in this context.

 

 

Travels faster with respect to?

 

 

 

 

Correct, no massive particles or object can have a relativistic velocity equal to or greater than the speed of light.

 

 

 

 

 

 

But if the two observers are stationary relative to each other then they will agree on the distance between the Earth and the Sun. You need to give more information.

 

 

You would need to actually specify this to make any conclusions.

 

 

You need to combine the effects of time dilation here. I don't know where the two observers are exactly and if they are moving relative to each other.

 

 

That sounds right.

 

 

 

Not yet... you have not formulated the problem carefully enough.

 

 

This is the no rigid body statement in special relativity. (If we ignore gravity for now)

 

P.S. Didn't someone else ask exactly the same question before?

"Travels faster with respect to?"

each other.

"But if the two observers are stationary relative to each other then they will agree on the distance between the Earth and the Sun. You need to give more information.

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no matter what they agree on, 10 feet from a giant persons perspective is more then the 10 feet from a small persons perspective.

there is no way for light particals to know that they both agreed on a distance...

i think some of you guys are missing my points o.0

it simply does not matter if its possible or not to float in space,

it does not matter if its not possible or not to be so huge.

its the principle that matters.

thats why its a thought experiment..

if u dont like notion of a large observer and a small observer, then by all means changes it to how ever u see fit, it doesnt matter.

Two things here:

 

First the easy one: Being large or small makes no difference to how fast things move and so seems to be irrelevant.

 

The other one is more complicated. Yes, if you swing a long stick (or arm) then the end will move faster. You might think that if you double the length (and so double the length of the circle) then the end of the stick is moving twice as fast. That is close enough for small velocities.

 

But, as you say, nothing can move faster than light. So what happens is that the speed does not increase according to that simple formula (off the top of my head, I'm not sure how you do work out the speed). This was, I think, one of the examples that led Einstein to realise that space-time must be curved.

 

Hopefully, someone else can give a more detailed explanation.

the reason why i used a small observer and a large observer is to show the differences from each ones own perspective, nothing to do about there speed, more of the difference between both of there perception of time and how they experience time differently essentially due to there mass/size.

 

 

Except it appears he never said such a thing. It is a lie made up by some Christian website (there are certain Christians who think it is OK to lie, apparently).

 

 

That would be OK, except there is no such thing as astral projection (remember, this is a science forum),

how are you so sure astral projection is not real? cause you never done it?lmao.

hate to burst your bubble, but what do you think your doing when you dream??

if you want, next time i project, ill visit you, and describe your entire house.doodle some stuff on paper and leave it out in plain view, ill tell you whats on the paper.ill even pull you out your body, will be up to you if you can maintain your self awarness after your out. my money says you wont even be able to become aware of yourself at a higher frequency.

I have no idea what astral projection has to do with anything in this thread.

well, i just explained it, let me break down so you can digest it, original post is about michio saying he is convinced that our universe was designed by a intelligent being.

well, how the hell do you think a intelligent being would be able to create such a thing you ask???read my post, i explained it all.thats how astral projection has everything to do about this post.GG

i was home schooled until i was 16 and did not really get a chance to learn any of this stuff, keep that in mind if you feel this subject is childs play.

before we start, lets do a warm up.

imagine a 10 ft long pole being spun in circles with a motor at a constant speed.

the part of the pole that is closest to the center of the circle is traveling less distance then the part that is further away from the center.

speed is calculated by the time it takes for an object to travel a distance.

so does this mean that the part of the pole which is further away from the center is traveling faster then the part that is closest to the center?

there for, the part that is furthest away from the center, has more mass then the part that is closest to the center?

now, if our planet was larger and had more mass, it would then have a stronger gravitational pull right?

so if our planet were to start orbiting the sun at a faster speed, this would mean that our planet would gain mass, in return, we would feel a stronger gravitational pull?

now, does this all mean that a small piece of mass can become equivalent to a larger piece of mass if the smaller travels fast enough?

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here is were this gets a little deep and i will have explain this in a form of a thought experiment.

here is what i am truly confused about, no solid matter can travel faster then light right?

so imagine in your mind the earth and the sun, make them both stationary.

now imagine there is 2 observers, one observer is the size of a normal human, imagine that observer is just floating in space, above earth, looking towards the sun.

now imagine the second observer is huge.so large that the earth would fit snugly in his palm.

(remember, speed is measured by the time and distance a object travels relative to a observer)

so, the distance between the earth and sun is vastly further away from each other from the smaller observers perspective when compared to the larger observer perspective.

now imagine yourself as the larger observer, swing your arm from the sun to the earth as fast as you can.

how long did it seem to take for your hand to travel the distance from the sun to earth from the larger perspective?

(in my mind, it took like a split second)

now, imagine all this again, except this time, imagine it from the smaller perspective, how long did it take for the larger perspective hand to cover the distance between the sun and earth?

this is where i get confused at, google says it takes about 8 mins for the light from the sun to reach earth. See the problem here?

if you are watching the the large observers hand swing from the small observers perspective, it would be impossible for the large observers hand to cover the distance between the sun and earth in the split second that it took when you observed as the large observer because that would mean his hand traveled faster then light.

what do you guys think happens?

the only thing i can think of is that, from the small perspective, the large hand would have to be moving in slow motion, really, really slowly.This means that the length

of time that elapsed for both observers is not the same.example, (and only a example) in only 1 second passing from the large guys perspective, the small guy experienced weeks passing in that very same time frame.

its like time itself will have to adjust its self so that the speed of light will remain constant from all perspectives.amazing stuff.

You clearly don't know what you don't know or else you wouldn't be asking the question.

haha, and what question am i asking?

im pretty sure that the meaning behind my post was pointing out how strange our universe is, not asking a direct question in any way, except when i asked if any of you found it as weird as i do...but thats not the main point of my post....at all....the fact that you cant even comprehend my meaning is kinda ironic dont ya think>?

We are very complex systems built from simpler smaller peices, and we exhibit 'emergent phenomena' - that is behaviour that is due to all the interactions of there smaller peices and cannot be seen in any individual small peice.

 

Amazing is all I can say.

yes i understand what you mean and believe you are correct, i understand that awarness emerges from the complex pattern of the atoms. but at the same time, no matter how you look at it,

we are still atoms at our very core.

Have you not considered that your current dissatisfaction of what we are is actually caused by your current lack of knowledge on the subject; the more you know, the more you will see.

lol...really......please go else where with your lack of brain cells o.0

wow that is interesting.

ill admit that i never really had true interest in science or spirituality, until now.

i been dabbling in the field of astral projection ever since i had this one out of body experience not to long ago.

i know some of you think that astral projection is just a myth or something, but let me tell you that im 100% sure that astral projection is truly a real thing.

the reason i bring this subject up is because i believe it is related to what dr.michio kaku was saying, ill explain, starting with my own personal experiences.

when i astral project, i can materialize my thoughts.My thoughts become real, they gain physical, solid properties.this can be directly related to the partical that dr.michio was talking about.

this entire universe that we all live in, was created the same way our thoughts manifest themselves while in the astral, there for, the universe was indeed created by a intelligent being.

this stuff they call dark matter and anti matter, is really the astral world, while in the astral, its very hard to interact with physical matter, you will find that you simply pass through solid matter such as walls, doors, earth ect.. the same exact way that this anti matter and dark matter passes through solid matter.

Has anyone here ever truly thought about how we exist, how we are self aware.When i think about this deeply, i realize something thats very strange, atoms.

we are all made up of atoms, tiny ball like atoms.hypothetically speaking, if you were to separate and isolate a single atom, would you have the reason to believe that this atom is conscience and is aware of its self? Probaly not. how ever, if enough of these atoms come together, in just the right way, they create a being that is intelligent and self aware, humans.when i think of it like this, it all seems to insane to be reality. But yet, here we are.

so essentially, we are all just trillions upon trillions of these tiny little things we call a atom, that is what i am, that is what you are, that is what everything else is as well.

i dont understand how this is possible.

i cant be the only here that thinks there has to be more to all then this, am i?

we have to be missing something, or maybe im just the one missing something l m a o.