Right, it is not cut and dry, The original statement was not cut and dry. It left room for many variables, which I see as assumptions. My statement was "you cannot prove to anyone" when I should have said, you cannot prove to everyone. And even if everyone at the party sees the demonstration and understands it, does not make HOLES objectively real. You have gotten every subjective opinion that exists, and that is not enough to claim objectivity. I guess this is philosophical clipclap to some, but to others, it's a more precise way of discussing actuality. I thought that is why we are all here. SO I assumed his comment was sarcastic, and it was. Everyone's version of subjectivity is basically a form of sarcasm.
You don't have to explain it to me. You have to explain it to a child with autism. Lets say that the only people in the universe were you and an autistic child. You could not prove anything to anyone in the universe. IM making a larger point that maybe you dont consider to be a point. Im not sure. I want to understand.
Einstein created all sorts of equations that prove his ideas of relativity, special and general. Do you think everyone can examine them long enough to understand the objective reality created by them? I am a person of at least average intelligence. Einstein cannot prove his theories to me. IF he cant explain them without math, than I cant understand them.
Ive watched Feynman gives lectures about probability and quarks, using math. To him, he was finding proof. It did not exist for me at all.