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PhD Medicinal/Organic Chemistry; BA Biology
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  1. In Topic: People who believe in god are broken

    9 May 2012 - 12:43 AM

    View Postquestionposter, on 7 May 2012 - 10:13 PM, said:


    Your religious right?

    Religious right? I don't even know what that means any more.

    Just the thought of the use/misuse of this term makes me cringe as if someone scrapped their fingernails on a chalk board.

    Can you please define this term for me in your intended context?

    PS: I voted for Obama and about 90% sure I will again.

    View Postquestionposter, on 7 May 2012 - 10:13 PM, said:

    You believe god exists, but do you obviously do not advocate violence.

    I absolutely do advocate violence strongly, but only as a last resort.
    Feet, if a viable alternative to the situation at hand, are much more efficient and safer for all parties.

    View Postquestionposter, on 7 May 2012 - 10:13 PM, said:

    Do you study science as well?
    Do you think science is the language of the devil?

    Science is a beautiful language of God.
    Lies and closed mindedness are languages of the the devil.


    Colossians 1 New International Version (NIV)16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

    View Postquestionposter, on 7 May 2012 - 10:13 PM, said:

    Do you believe you cannot sit on furniture which women have menstruated on?


    No, but the furniture should be tagged as "unclean" and put into storage for 7 days, after which time the tag can be removed, the furniture cleaned with detergent and used again as normal. :P

    Seriously, what the....??

    View Postquestionposter, on 7 May 2012 - 10:13 PM, said:

    Do you believe people who have cheated on other people deserve to be stoned to death?


    No more so than any other sinner. Including me.
  2. In Topic: People who believe in god are broken

    9 May 2012 - 12:14 AM

    View Postmooeypoo, on 8 May 2012 - 05:07 AM, said:

    The signal in the clouds was intercepted, and the moo was dispatched!
    ~mooey

    Thanks for the clarification Mooeyoo!
  3. In Topic: People who believe in god are broken

    7 May 2012 - 10:55 PM

    View PostMoontanman, on 7 May 2012 - 10:11 PM, said:

    No, the reality of the situation is that Noah's Ark is easily shown to be a fairy tale with no basis in reality.


    This is an example the need to be careful how you interpret what you read, think, hear, say, etc.

    1. a giant flood is lore in many cultlures
    2. Was the whole earth flooded or some area flooded?
    a.
    Earth as in planet Earth = kadur ha'arets (כדור הארץ)
    earth as in soil = adamah (אדמה). For example the soil/earth from which Adam was made.
    earth as in land or territory = erets (ארץ)
    hebrew words for earth

    b. For example:
    -God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah and Lot's daughters said "there's not a man in the earth #776 Strong's Concordance (erets) to come in unto us" (Genesis 19:31) Not every man in the world was killed ... only those in the area of the destruction.

    -Exodus 9:33 "the rain was not poured upon the earth" #776 Strong's Concordance (erets)... Of course we understand it is just speaking about a certain area in Egypt.

    -Genesis 7, "Noah's flood": the flood covered "the earth", the Hebrew word used in the original writing by Moses was #776 Strong's Concordance "erets", meaning "the land" (see above). The flood cover a particular region, not the whole earth.

    This is a problem a BROKEN translation and our BROKEN interpretation of the translation. Not with the story itself.
  4. In Topic: People who believe in god are broken

    7 May 2012 - 10:34 PM

    View Postquestionposter, on 4 May 2012 - 12:16 AM, said:

    Couldn't you just shoot the guy in the leg or call the police and merely threaten him?


    You ever 'TRY' to shoot a target in the leg (relatively narrow, below the horizontal plane of the shooter's arm/pistol and for a real person often rapidly shifting position)?
    As opposed to the preferred, much more stable, large center of mass (ie, the chest).
    Besides, people with holes in their leg can still kill you.

    That always makes for interesting cinema and TV.
    No cop academy, no paramilitary, military or self defense class would EVER teach that.

    After demanding the offender to drop his weapon fails, you aim for center of mass and shoot to kill. That is assuming that you can't use your best defensive weapon, your feet.

    Maybe that's broken too, if so, broken is the way it is.

    View Posttar, on 4 May 2012 - 01:00 AM, said:

    Just to notice, that when looked at, with my particular skew, scientists are actually MORE likely to "please" God by just listening to his words, than religous people are likely to please him by putting 2000 year old words in his mouth.

    Why can't we, don't we, do both?

    There is a risk that you're bordering on stereotyping.
    I'm not accusing, nor assuming you have crossed that line, but I do see the risk; perhaps because of my sensitivity to being stereotype myself....
    Being both scientist and Christian, I get it from both side at least weekly depending on the present company.

    View PostdoG, on 3 May 2012 - 11:36 PM, said:

    Hmmmm. Editted your post huh? You said that you disagreed that 'all' people were broken and no one made that claim.

    Chill. No deceit was intended in the edit.
  5. In Topic: People who believe in god are broken

    7 May 2012 - 10:08 PM

    View Posttar, on 3 May 2012 - 05:43 AM, said:

    doG,
    and the Bible is pretty boring reading for a non-believer. I tried to read it, after I read the Koran twice, following Sept.11th, when I was trying to understand how such evil had come from a "religion of peace", but it was too boring, I couldn't read it through.

    The first half of the Koran is at least interesting. I think Mohammed dictated that part. He was a good writer. And a persuasive thinker. The second half is mostly repitition and strikes me as a different style. I think the scribes wrote most of that themselves. Or Mohammed was suffering from writer's block.


    Regarding the Quran,, perhaps this is what you may have been looking for (I know that I was after 9/11)?
    It definitely does state that Christians and Jews are to be greeted with peace.

    "Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians -- whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor shall they grieve" (2:62, 5:69).

    "...and nearest among them in love to the believers will you find those who say, 'We are Christians,' because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant" (5:82).

    "O you who believe! Be helpers of God -- as Jesus the son of Mary said to the Disciples, 'Who will be my helpers in (the work of) God?' Said the disciples, 'We are God's helpers!' (61:14).



    Also, regarding how Christians and Jews should treat Muslims and others...


    Leviticus 19:33-34: “When a stranger sojourns with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong. You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.”

    Exodus 22:21: “You shall not wrong a sojourner or oppress him, for you were sojourners in the land of Egypt.”

    Deut 24:14 Do not take advantage of a hired worker who is poor and needy, whether that worker is a fellow Israelite or a foreigner residing in one of your towns. 15 Pay them their wages each day before sunset, because they are poor and are counting on it. Otherwise they may cry to the Lord against you, and you will be guilty of sin.
    17 Do not deprive the foreigner or the fatherless of justice, or take the cloak of the widow as a pledge. 18 Remember that you were slaves in Egypt and the Lord your God redeemed you from there. That is why I command you to do this.
    19 When you are harvesting in your field and you overlook a sheaf, do not go back to get it. Leave it for the foreigner, the fatherless and the widow, so that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your hands. 20 When you beat the olives from your trees, do not go over the branches a second time. Leave what remains for the foreigner, the fatherless and the widow. 21 When you harvest the grapes in your vineyard, do not go over the vines again. Leave what remains for the foreigner, the fatherless and the widow. 22 Remember that you were slaves in Egypt. That is why I command you to do this.

    Luke 6:27-31. Jesus says:

    “But I say to you who here, love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you. To one who strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also, and from one who takes away your cloak do not withhold your tunic either. Give to everyone who begs from you, and from one who takes away your goods do not demand them back. And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them.”

    It is so sad how this has been twisted and misinterpreted for selfish gain and hatred, and anger's sake. :(

    These words are NOT BROKEN

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