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  1. it would have to be quite dynamic then huh. you know first people were saying that jupiter doesn't have any solid objects because the pressure is so great that nothing can be just it's solid form, but then today other was saying that well on the other hand ,, it WOULD be solid, it would be under so much pressure that although it would be technically a "liquid" on the charts, it would be very solid compared to any of our solids on the surface of the earth, it would be very very very solid. ,,, The SUN is quite a bit bigger,, it must be quite a bit of pressure in there. perhaps likewise the mass in the sun would be, despite it's "gaseous" form,, a very very very solid bit of gas. ??? Anyway I don't suppose anyone is trying to track the suns surface gravity, in the way they track the magnetism?? I would be interested to see such discussions. I would spend all of my scifi energy on it.
  2. right ,, so we do not have such a "graph" for the sun correct??
  3. I follow you, I promise. The gravity "hole" in the Indian Ocean is not the result of mountains or trenches or any other "crust" formation. Although these things do result in variations in the amount of mass nearby, I am talking about something else. In the mantle are measured (I guess by sound from earthquakes and such) to be these "giant structures" of "increased density". , , There appears to be a large plume of magma that had erupted from the mantle into the crust resulting in the anomoly in the Indian Ocean. Perhaps a better way to make my suggestion would be to talk about the "Great Red Spot" on Jupiter. What is that?? Does it have different gravity? Could such a formation exist in the Sun???? What would that be like?? ANd,, Jupiter is SO ENORMOUS ,, could there not likewise be such "storms" deeper within Jupiter which although connected to other parts of Jupiter do no necessarily "reveal" themselves to us? I forget about this other star, but there are a number of stars with varying brightness, although there are multiple possible explanations. However, this was a study proper that analyzed the spectroscopy of the data and apparently it appeared as though there was indeed a "non-mixing" of the elements of this particular star, so that on one side burned the color of one particular material, while on the other side burned the color of another one. In this case, the density of SUCH A HUGE OBJECT ,,, A STAR ,,,, must vary in a way that is not necessarily stable in it's gravity correct?? Given enough time, the whole thing should settle down to an energy-less mass perfectly sorted by gravity, but perhaps this just really takes a long time? So long, in fact,, that we might be able to imagine that within the sun, there are also "structures" that exist similar to our own uneven mantle mass distribution?? Huge formations (perhaps storms like the one on Jupiter's outer visible atmosphere) that are simply yet unable to mix into the rest of the Sun's mass, despite their instability against the Suns gravity?? Perhaps so huge that instruments might even be able to detect a gravitational variance that it might cause?
  4. The Earth, and to my basic uneducated knowledge, actually all of the planets and other bodies are uneven in mass distribution. The Earth has a famous "low gravity bubble" in the Indian Ocean. LIkewise uneven gravity is an attribute of other planets. Previously in life I was explained to that the interior of the Earth, as well as the Sun, were so fluid that they were virtually perfectly evenly distributed for mass. In the last 20 years or so it has become common knowledge that for the earth and other planets this is not true, although scientists do not have perfect confidence in how to understand the observations they have made that show that indeed there is a "lumpy" interior to objects like the earth, as well as uneven gravity. Could this apply to the Sun as well? Could the Sun be "lumpy" on the inside?? True, the Sun is incredibly fluid, being so much plasma, but it is also incredibly massive. Recently I saw an article posted about a recent publication of a study, where a star far away in a fairly recent observation appeared to have more than one brightness, which was discussed to be possibly a result of uneven distribution of the isotopes of hydrogen ,, basically one part would be very much one isotope, leading to one color/brightness, while on the other side would be a different dominant isotope resulting in a different color/brightness. And ,, if this is true, , would it be plausible that the Sun's gravity is also (like all of the other measured bodies in human history) not perfectly consistent?? After all ,, to my understanding we do not have any data that supports the idea that there ARE objects in existence that DO have perfectly consistent gravity ????
  5. I won't be able to fully respond all at once. -I think that not always have hydrocarbon reserves been so deep. I think that seepage is not clearly stated at all times. there are various seepage types and quantities. There are hydrocarbons in minnesota's water from south dakotas reserves. I think that hydrocarbons directly from the seepage may not be necessary for an environment to be affected by the seepage. I think that there is not one place on earth that is truly isolated from the rest of earth. I recommend reading about oceanic seepage to benthic productivity, although there is very little. I have some resources which are interesting, but as time marches on the amount of data required to make a claim increases, and the available data becomes more questionable. I would like to argue : think about what people say compared to what is true, and how mostly shop talk is wrong. - I like how most of the hydrocarbons remain, but seepage is dynamic. actually pretty much all reserves seep, which is how we found them. I like how we pump water into the reserve and see bacterial blooms which worry prospectors that the reserve will be eaten. -I would love to argue with you about whether there were micro-organisms in shallower reserves. I would like to hear about the credibility of your sources suggesting that there is not and was not life in them. - It is interesting how many trillions of barrels of oil we have removed from the subterrean, and yet how microseepage might be expected to drain the reserve...
  6. claim: the recent discovery of microbial populations in deep hydrocarbon reserves should support the claim that there were microbial populations in shallow reserves. claim: The density and quality of hydrocarbons within a reserve affects the type and volume of microbial activity (although it is something I've considered that after getting what we can from a reserve, there might be a short term bloom given the newly found relaxed environment. hydrocarbons of high complexity can be broken again and again for energy) claim: Harvesting fossil fuels dramatically alters the subterranean environment, and therefore the biologic activity. claim: This affect in turn affects the surface. Hydrocarbon seepage is reduced with reduced reserve pressure. discussion: WE farmed and deforested nearly everything. We did a lot of replanting. the vegetation as it is today in nearly every location has changed 100% . Lots of things died on their own or were replaced by invasive species. actually, we can't ever know about invasive species of the time. If it's going on now, I would think it's ok to assume it happened already. discussion: Due to the nature of oil science (get money), it is likely that the kind of data one would use to support these claims isn't available. Not until biological sciences really started producing wild food genetics and such would we have had available data. some independent environmentalist data collector from long ago (or even a bunch of them) would not have been able to collect data that anyone would have found useful. Data collection is huge. discussion: There are so many things happening to the surface due to human activities, many of the effects that may have been from changes in hydrocarbon seepage were likely attributed to something else, such as pollution or infrastructure development. Link list: http://www.cartage.org.lb/en/themes/sciences/earthscience/geology/oilandgas/HydrocarbonMigration/Hydrocarbon/Hydrocarbon.html http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-3-642-05297-2_61#page-1 http://ipec.utulsa.edu/28.d/28_Abs.html http://microbiology.okstate.edu/faculty/mostafa/publications/PetMicrorev.pdf http://www.livescience.com/23126-bacteria-sucked-up-200-000-tons-of-oil-after-bp-spill.html http://microbiology.okstate.edu/faculty/mostafa/publications/PetMicrorev.pdf http://levin.ucsd.edu/publications/Levin%20OMBAR%2005.pdf
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