conway Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 (edited) Am I correct in the following statements on particles. 1. It is that an electron is a particle that behaves like a wave in certain instants within it's "orbit" of the nuclei. 2. A particle in the state of superposition is a wave that in certain instants behaves like a particle, in more than one place. 3. A photon is a wave that at certain instants behaves like a particle in one place at one time. I am short of "nuts and bolts" education in this regard (equations), I can only pose question in philosophical forms, my apologies. Edited June 17, 2015 by conway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swansont Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Am I correct in the following statements on particles. 1. It is that an electron is a particle that behaves like a wave in certain instants within it's "orbit" of the nuclei. 2. A particle in the state of superposition is a wave that in certain instants behaves like a particle, in more than one place. 3. A photon is a wave that at certain instants behaves like a particle in one place at one time. I am short of "nuts and bolts" education in this regard (equations), I can only pose question in philosophical forms, my apologies. Sort of. Quantum particles have characteristics that we would call particle-like and some we would call wave-like. You can put quantum systems in superpositions and that can result in them behaving like they are in more than one place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Here is a good non math site to understand particle and wave properties. http://www.mitp.uni-...yerSymmetry.pdf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conway Posted June 18, 2015 Author Share Posted June 18, 2015 (edited) Thank you for helping me do my research. I will read I ask some more questions as to why "sort of". mmmh...the links do not appear to be working? Edited June 18, 2015 by conway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 (edited) http://profmattstrassler.com/articles-and-posts/the-higgs-particle/the-higgs-faq-2-0/ http://profmattstrassler.com/articles-and-posts/particle-physics-basics/ http://profmattstrassler.com/ He has a series of easy to understand articles. For some reason the previous links didn't copy correct when I posted em on a previous thread. These should work the last link is main page. Particles have both particle and wave properties. Google particle wave duality. Edited June 18, 2015 by Mordred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conway Posted June 18, 2015 Author Share Posted June 18, 2015 (edited) so gluons have their own field, is this the "speculated" case of gravitons? what is the value of the higgs field if not close to zero? I think I see what you mean by "sort of"....please correct me if I am wrong, that is all particles are waves with their lowest intensity being the "state of particle". Is it then correct to say that a given wave is the given field, but the field is not necessary the given wave? Edited June 18, 2015 by conway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 (edited) are gluons and gravitons in the elective field of higgs field? if the higgs fields value is non zero, and not close to it (except at the birth of uni), then what is it's value? sorry, still reading but I could wait to ask more question...... The 4 forces interact via mediator bosons. Electromagnetic is mediated via photons. Gluons for the strong force W Z bosons for the weak force. Graviton is possibly gravity but thus far hasn't been found so theoretical. The Higgs field only provides mass to certain elementary particles. Quarks neutrinos, electrons w z bosons. It's importance is primarily in the initial mass gain during the electroweak symmetry breaking. Beyond that the majority of the mass is due to the binding energy of primarily the strong force, gravity and electromagnetic force. Depending on what is being examined. Individual particles (composite) ie proton neutron is 99% due to strong force. The atom is each particle mass added up that makes up the atom.(atomic mass)gravity involves a large collection of particles (it's the weakest of the four forces.) One of the best two textbooks I've read is Quarks and Leptons and Introductory to particle physics by Griffith. Unfortunately good low level math articles on particle physics is difficult to find. One of the better series that teaches the needed math however is http://arxiv.org/abs/0810.3328 A Simple Introduction to Particle Physics http://arxiv.org/abs/0908.1395 part 2 Keep in mind 99 % of the last two articles Involves differential geometry and lie algebra. (Though done in an instructural manner). If you work through the last two articles thoroughly you will excel at physics particle, cosmology and GR. Far more so than the average poster lol Forgot to add these helpful books. http://arxiv.org/pdf/hep-th/0503203.pdf"Particle Physics and Inflationary Cosmology" by Andrei Linde http://www.wiese.itp.unibe.ch/lectures/universe.pdf:"Particle Physics of the Early universe" by Uwe-Jens Wiese Thermodynamics, Big bang Nucleosynthesis Though the latter two deal more in the cosmology aspects. Edited June 18, 2015 by Mordred 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conway Posted June 18, 2015 Author Share Posted June 18, 2015 what is the importance of photons mediating the electromagnetic force, and electrons (higgs field particles), also relating to the electromagnetic force? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 (edited) how each of the fundamental forces interact can get lengthy for one post. Here is a good series. One key note not all forces interact with all particles. For example the electromagnetic force doesn't interact with neutrinos. Secondly all force carrying bosons have integer spin 1,-1,0,-2,+2. Fermions are considered matter particles bosons are not. Fermions have fractional (non integer spin) Electrons are spin -1/2. Protons have spin +1/2. https://briankoberlein.com/2015/02/25/the-four-horsemen/ https://briankoberlein.com/2015/02/27/dance-of-the-hag/ https://briankoberlein.com/2015/02/28/forge-of-heaven/ https://briankoberlein.com/2015/03/01/light-of-other-days/ https://briankoberlein.com/2015/02/26/cradle-to-grave/ The Higgs boson is spin zero. It's only role is granting mass to certain Particles. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson Edited June 18, 2015 by Mordred 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensei Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Electrons are spin -1/2. Protons have spin +1/2. Not exactly. Electron can have spin +1/2 or -1/2... Spin-up and spin-down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordred Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Doh right lol good catch. Answered late at night lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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