[homie12]

I can see you all have a sense of humor. Ending a topic with a question then locking it. Darn thats like being in a round room and being told to sit in the corner

And sense we are in the specualtion forum. We must move dark matter and dark energy over here. Because an opinion being popular is no proof of its reality. Also one doesnt have to want to be different to realize, being well adjusted to a profoundly sick society is no proof of health. thamks for all the insight.

Are we here to learn something new or reinforce what we think we already know

after reviewing back through related themes and paths I have been in, I have to know,,, How old are you kids?

[timo]

I have the feeling that the amount of people who locked your thread with a question is smaller than "all" - possibly even as low as one.

[John Cuthber]

Possibly as low as zero.
As far as I can see he has started 2 threads and they are both still open (thus far).
http://www.sciencefo...146#entry656146

http://www.sciencefo...144#entry656144

It seems the OP can't count to zero.

[swansont]

homie12, on 5 February 2012 - 12:20 PM, said:

I can see you all have a sense of humor. Ending a topic with a question then locking it.

In the two threads you've started you've raised issues with absolutely no supporting material, and your other posts show a lack of comprehension of what thread hijacking is (please review the rules) That's not exactly an auspicious beginning. To which topic do you refer?

homie12, on 5 February 2012 - 12:20 PM, said:

I have to know,,, How old are you kids?

You first.

[John Cuthber]

I don't know about the others but I'm 46. Perhaps the most interesting facet of that is that it's in my profile where homie12 could have looked if he had the sense.
On a related note I wonder if the "12" in his name is his age, shoe size , IQ or what.

[StringJunky]

homie12, on 5 February 2012 - 12:20 PM, said:

And sense we are in the specualtion forum. We must move dark matter and dark energy over here. Because an opinion being popular is no proof of its reality. Also one doesnt have to want to be different to realize, being well adjusted to a profoundly sick society is no proof of health. thamks for all the insight.

Are we here to learn something new or reinforce what we think we already know

after reviewing back through related themes and paths I have been in, I have to know,,, How old are you kids?

Dark Matter and Energy have been hypothesised by qualified scientists who have years of training and the requisite math's ability to contemplate the problems left in science that these two ideas are trying to solve...not some guy sitting at his pc suddenly having a "eureka" moment and feeling a compelling need to share it with the world. There's a big difference, in terms of effort and eventual consensus, between a peer-reviewed idea and a back-of-the-envelope one. This is why the latter ends up in Speculation.

The overall tone of your posts will ensure you a short stay here if you persist with it. May I suggest you shut your mouth for a while and just follow the flow of the forum and see how it operates and, hopefully, it will make sense to you why things are so?

This post has been edited by StringJunky: 5 February 2012 - 01:22 PM

[homie12]

well its nice of you 3 to be the ones taking cheap shots. I probably deserved it. So let me work on my communication skills here. As I am new I will get better. I was refering to the age thing because I guess some of you have been texting on this site for a while. and yes some even call yourselves experts. I will have to watch your style and maybe gain some new experience. By the way what importance are blanket statements such as qualified scientists with years of training and are you assuming that im sitting behind a pc with a eureka moment or who were you refering to? well i managed to stick to this topic thats a start yes?

swansont, on 5 February 2012 - 12:58 PM, said:

In the two threads you've started you've raised issues with absolutely no supporting material, and your other posts show a lack of comprehension of what thread hijacking is (please review the rules) That's not exactly an auspicious beginning. To which topic do you refer?
im sorry could you be more specific? And yes my comunication skills need a lot of improving. this I wil immediately work on. as i have seen a commitment on the part of most of you to genuine about wnating to discuss factual ideas. and thanks for your responses.



You first.

StringJunky, on 5 February 2012 - 01:11 PM, said:

Dark Matter and Energy have been hypothesised by qualified scientists who have years of training and the requisite math's ability to contemplate the problems left in science that these two ideas are trying to solve...not some guy sitting at his pc suddenly having a "eureka" moment and feeling a compelling need to share it with the world. There's a big difference, in terms of effort and eventual consensus, between a peer-reviewed idea and a back-of-the-envelope one. This is why the latter ends up in Speculation.

The overall tone of your posts will ensure you a short stay here if you persist with it. May I suggest you shut your mouth for a while and just follow the flow of the forum and see how it operates and, hopefully, it will make sense to you why things are so?

and no you may not suggest to me to shut my mouth. You can however tell me or explain my shortcomings. I do have legitimate questions. Now I will have to learn legitimate ways of stating them. . And i wont suggest nor would i want you to shut your mouth. I would like to know what is in your head so thanks for your responses.

[Appolinaria]

John Cuthber, on 5 February 2012 - 01:09 PM, said:

I don't know about the others but I'm 46. Perhaps the most interesting facet of that is that it's in my profile where homie12 could have looked if he had the sense.
On a related note I wonder if the "12" in his name is his age, shoe size , IQ or what.

Would you speak like that to any human in real life?

[John Cuthber]

Appolinaria, on 12 February 2012 - 06:42 AM, said:

Would you speak like that to any human in real life?

Probably not. I doubt, for example that anyone would have prompted be to do so by asking "I have to know,,, How old are you kids?"
If, in real life, they had complained about someone locking a thread that wasn't locked, then (in spite of the fact that my age is probably fairly obvious from my looks or from checking my profile) gone on to ask how old I was, I might well speak like that.

I wonder if Homie12 does that sort of thing in real life.

This post has been edited by John Cuthber: 12 February 2012 - 10:29 AM

[michel123456]

I have not seen on this Forum a presentation page of Mods & experts. Something like age/profession/PhDs/field of expertise would be informative.

[swansont]

homie12, on 12 February 2012 - 06:05 AM, said:

well its nice of you 3 to be the ones taking cheap shots. I probably deserved it.

Yes, quite. People were responding to your cheap shots. Don't for a minute think that you can show up make an unsubstantiated accusation (which is still unsubstantiated, BTW) and ask a snide question and think that it is not provocation.

michel123456, on 12 February 2012 - 11:26 AM, said:

I have not seen on this Forum a presentation page of Mods & experts. Something like age/profession/PhDs/field of expertise would be informative.

Users are free to mention that in their profile and introduction thread. Some people want a level of anonymity, though, so this cannot be mandatory. In due time, the qualifications of users will become very apparent. Professional scientists will act like professional scientists and crackpots will act like crackpots.

[Appolinaria]

John Cuthber, on 12 February 2012 - 10:26 AM, said:

Probably not. I doubt, for example that anyone would have prompted be to do so by asking "I have to know,,, How old are you kids?"
If, in real life, they had complained about someone locking a thread that wasn't locked, then (in spite of the fact that my age is probably fairly obvious from my looks or from checking my profile) gone on to ask how old I was, I might well speak like that.

I wonder if Homie12 does that sort of thing in real life.

I wasn't aware that he was personally attacking you, John, when he said "how old are you kids?"

But anyway, you don't know who you're making fun of, saying they have an IQ of 12. It's hard to remember when you're accustomed to the anonymity of a forum and the bleakness of the pixels... but there's an actual PERSON behind these posts, believe it or not.

[iNow]

Yes, I would talk to people like this in real life, especially if they were an arrogant ignorant fuckwit like this guy. What's your point, exactly?

Actually... Let me take that back. In real life, I'd probably punch this guy in the throat, but alas... Online I'm restricted to using my words to make a point. C'est la vie.

[John Cuthber]

Appolinaria, on 12 February 2012 - 05:49 PM, said:

I wasn't aware that he was personally attacking you, John, when he said "how old are you kids?"

But anyway, you don't know who you're making fun of, saying they have an IQ of 12. It's hard to remember when you're accustomed to the anonymity of a forum and the bleakness of the pixels... but there's an actual PERSON behind these posts, believe it or not.

Do you plan, at any stage, to criticize the liar who started this thread by making a false allegation, then casting aspersions on our maturity?
The victims of that slur are PEOPLE too.

[michel123456]

John Cuthber, on 5 February 2012 - 01:09 PM, said:

I don't know about the others but I'm 46. Perhaps the most interesting facet of that is that it's in my profile where homie12 could have looked if he had the sense.
On a related note I wonder if the "12" in his name is his age, shoe size , IQ or what.

I am 51, but I manage to change that from time to time.
Hoping that John don't believe I am 123456 years old. Free to believe that's my IQ. That is not my shoe size.

I strongly suggest a presentation note. I know that anonymity is a must over the net, but it would be good to know that a moderator/expert is not a teenager acting like a scientist, but a scientist.
It is very time consuming to go to each interlocutor profile and learn nothing in most of the case.
What does that cost?

Swansont, physicist, PhD from [insert country will do], age [twenties, thirties,will do].

Michel123456, Architect, ISABr Brussels Belgium, 51. oops I am not a Mod...
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John Cuthber, Chemist, England, 72? (my idea from his posts)

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iNow, student?, Texas, 24? (my idea from his posts)

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[dimreepr]

iNow, on 12 February 2012 - 05:58 PM, said:

Yes, I would talk to people like this in real life, especially if they were an arrogant ignorant fuckwit like this guy. What's your point, exactly?

Actually... Let me take that back. In real life, I'd probably punch this guy in the throat, but alas... Online I'm restricted to using my words to make a point. C'est la vie.

[StringJunky]

Homie12 has said as much his attitude needs to change...let's move forward with him in like spirit.

[John Cuthber]

michel123456, on 12 February 2012 - 06:17 PM, said:

I am 51, but I manage to change that from time to time.
Hoping that John don't believe I am 123456 years old. Free to believe that's my IQ. That is not my shoe size.

I strongly suggest a presentation note. I know that anonymity is a must over the net, but it would be good to know that a moderator/expert is not a teenager acting like a scientist, but a scientist.
It is very time consuming to go to each interlocutor profile and learn nothing in most of the case.
What does that cost?

Swansont, physicist, PhD from [insert country will do], age [twenties, thirties,will do].

Michel123456, Architect, ISABr Brussels Belgium, 51. oops I am not a Mod...
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John Cuthber, Chemist, England, 72? (my idea from his posts)

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iNow, student?, Texas, 24? (my idea from his posts)

Nope, sorry. 72 is my IQ.

And I think stringjunky has a point.

[iNow]

michel123456, on 12 February 2012 - 06:17 PM, said:

John Cuthber, Chemist, England, 72? (my idea from his posts)

He shared his age openly in this very thread, and that's not it.

[Moontanman]

I'm only 11... no wait that's the length of my... antenna... yeah that's the ticket...