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Precession of the Mercury without relativity. Rate Topic: -----

#1 NewR 


Lepton
Hello,
here is semi classical formula for gravitational acceleration which perfectly predicts "relativistic" effects like precession of the Mercury.
I have tested it by numerical integration. I can post very simple code of the program if somebody would like to test it.
But I would be thankful if somebody would help to derive a formula of mentioned precession analytically.
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#2 imatfaal 


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#3 NewR 


Lepton
I am sorry this is strange. It works for me the direct link.
But maybe just copy and paste this to your browser.
I have put additional -> so you may see the full url

->http://www.part.lt/img/eb4c24f748f6e9a2797ed354bfbe6051663.png
or
->www.part.lt/img/eb4c24f748f6e9a2797ed354bfbe6051663.png
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#4 NewR 


Lepton
Here is corrected version of the mentioned acceleration.
->http://www.part.lt/img/db0d42e1474f160a32a4c0bcd95deb4a335.png
It gives the same precession by 0.103 arc seconds per revolution
but now it has much more clear meaning.
Also it is simpler. Maybe now somebody will be able to help with analytical derivation of the precession?
Or maybe someone can offer some other interesting cases to test this formula?

// Just copy/paste the link to your browser if direct link do not work.
// Maybe some issues between servers which I do not understand.

This post has been edited by NewR: 17 January 2012 - 04:13 PM

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#5 NewR 


Lepton
Sorry for the troubles with linking.
I have uploaded the picture to another server.
http://img864.images...905/mercury.png
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#6 daniel_dafa 


Lepton

View PostNewR, on 13 January 2012 - 11:28 AM, said:

Hello,
here is semi classical formula for gravitational acceleration which perfectly predicts "relativistic" effects like precession of the Mercury.
I have tested it by numerical integration. I can post very simple code of the program if somebody would like to test it.
But I would be thankful if somebody would help to derive a formula of mentioned precession analytically.


how did you test it, what method of numerical integration and how did you measure the precession once you had the data. I ask because I have been having troubles with a program for the same purpose, I numerically integrate and then fit the data to an ellipse, semiaxis measures are perfect but the precession rate is way off.
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#7 juanrga 


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View PostNewR, on 13 January 2012 - 11:28 AM, said:

Hello,
here is semi classical formula for gravitational acceleration which perfectly predicts "relativistic" effects like precession of the Mercury.
I have tested it by numerical integration. I can post very simple code of the program if somebody would like to test it.
But I would be thankful if somebody would help to derive a formula of mentioned precession analytically.


You do not give any detail (input values, uncertainties...) about your empirical formula, but what really surprises me is that you title this as "without relativity" when I can see a c2 factor in your empirical formula :rolleyes:.

This post has been edited by juanrga: 14 April 2012 - 04:36 PM

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