[zapatos]

Kranis, on 29 April 2012 - 09:37 PM, said:

Do some research on the brain and what makes up the brain and how it works, you can find your answer like that.

Well, that's one way to go.

On the other hand, you are the one who said a brain transplant can't be done. It seems reasonable therefore that you should back up your claim rather than make me do it. Either that or don't make the claim in the first place.

[hypervalent_iodine]

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Moderator Note

Kranis, if you'd like to open up a philosophical thread about identity, please do so. This is starting to get off topic.

[Moontanman]

Brain transplants, will it ever be possible to do it? Probably, but you are your brain, if you want your brain transplanted into a new body it would be you. not the person the body came from. If you wanted a new brain and transplanted it into your body it would no longer be you, it would be who ever the brain came from, you are your brain! Why is this so difficult?

For a really odd take on this read this book by Robert Heinlein.

http://en.wikipedia....ll_Fear_No_Evil

[Ringer]

Kranis, on 29 April 2012 - 05:39 PM, said:

Common sense, think about it, the brain IS you, its Your database, if you were to get someone else's brain, it would not be you, and you might even be brain dead, your body might even negate the brain being there and kill you.

. . . I don't believe anyone said anything about getting a new brain. If your brain was successfully transplanted into a new body it would still be you, though motor and sensory neurons would need to be established and integrated into the new body. I would assume a brain transplant procedure would take that into account though.

[Fanghur]

Ringer, on 21 August 2011 - 06:02 AM, said:

Any particular reason why transplanting a brain would be impossible?

Whether we will have the technological capability to successfully transplant a brain, the point is moot. Organ transplants are meant to save a person's life. And everything a person is, their sentience, their mind, their soul, call it whatever you like, is located in THEIR brain. Transplanting another brain into a human will necessarily destroy the original 'soul'.

[zapatos]

Fanghur, on 30 April 2012 - 12:37 PM, said:

Whether we will have the technological capability to successfully transplant a brain, the point is moot. Organ transplants are meant to save a person's life. And everything a person is, their sentience, their mind, their soul, call it whatever you like, is located in THEIR brain. Transplanting another brain into a human will necessarily destroy the original 'soul'.

I disagree. If my body is giving out, my heart and kidneys failing, transplanting my brain into another body will save my life. My sentience, mind, soul, whatever you want to call it, is in my brain. Therefore the transplant will save my life.

[iNow]

zapatos, on 30 April 2012 - 04:50 PM, said:

I disagree. If my body is giving out, my heart and kidneys failing, transplanting my brain into another body will save my life. My sentience, mind, soul, whatever you want to call it, is in my brain. Therefore the transplant will save my life.

The primary challenge I have with this is that your brain is much more than just the cortex and hypothalamic/amydala regions. Your "brain" is one component of a much larger system, and there would be some malfunctions if you did not account for the aggregate of your entire nervous system... which includes your spine, extremities, etc... when discussing such transplants.

I found some interesting stuff here on a quick glance, too: http://en.wikipedia....rain_transplant

[Ringer]

Fanghur, on 30 April 2012 - 12:37 PM, said:

Whether we will have the technological capability to successfully transplant a brain, the point is moot. Organ transplants are meant to save a person's life. And everything a person is, their sentience, their mind, their soul, call it whatever you like, is located in THEIR brain. Transplanting another brain into a human will necessarily destroy the original 'soul'.

So you are going to ignore that I already stated we are not talking about, say, giving me a new brain and expecting it to be me, but putting my brain in another body and it still being me?

[Kranis]

zapatos, on 29 April 2012 - 09:51 PM, said:

Well, that's one way to go.

On the other hand, you are the one who said a brain transplant can't be done. It seems reasonable therefore that you should back up your claim rather than make me do it. Either that or don't make the claim in the first place.

I don't have to back my claim up when its so freaking simple, You cant live with someone else's brain, DNA wise, database wise, all the info is stored in your brain of what you know, if you lost your brain and tried to get someone else's it will not be you, its simple, now if your brain lives and you need a new body, that might be possible in the future, as of right now it doesn't make sense to take in someone else's brain into your body...

[zapatos]

Kranis, on 30 April 2012 - 11:47 PM, said:

I don't have to back my claim up when its so freaking simple, You cant live with someone else's brain, DNA wise, database wise, all the info is stored in your brain of what you know, if you lost your brain and tried to get someone else's it will not be you, its simple, now if your brain lives and you need a new body, that might be possible in the future, as of right now it doesn't make sense to take in someone else's brain into your body...

You should reread the thread to see what everyone has said.

[Bauke]

Scientists have succeeded in giving rats an artifical cerebellum, which is a start I guess. Also it seems to be possible to transplant groups of cells into the brain.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21128315.700-rat-cyborg-gets-digital-cerebellum.html
http://www.sciencema...t/334/6059/1133

I doubt full brain transplant will ever be possible. It would not be compatible. But I do think we can transplant parts. Makes me wonder if we can ever replace memories.

This post has been edited by Bauke: 15 May 2012 - 04:04 PM

[zapatos]

Bauke, on 15 May 2012 - 04:03 PM, said:

Scientists have succeeded in giving rats an artifical cerebellum, which is a start I guess. Also it seems to be possible to transplant groups of cells into the brain.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21128315.700-rat-cyborg-gets-digital-cerebellum.html
http://www.sciencema...t/334/6059/1133

I doubt full brain transplant will ever be possible. It would not be compatible. But I do think we can transplant parts. Makes me wonder if we can ever replace memories.

It would not be compatible in what way?

[Bauke]

zapatos, on 15 May 2012 - 06:12 PM, said:

It would not be compatible in what way?

I cannot imagine that a brain that has been 'wired' for someone, is compatible with the body of someone else. There are so many connections being formed and developed throughout brain development and life, how is that ever going to be compatible with another body?

Maybe I'm thinking too simplified, but I cannot imagine it