[swansont]

Ivan Gorelik said:

Yes, we are bombarded by high-energy particles all the time. Look attentively at the comparison of A and B.

So why don't we have magnetic holes here?

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Ivan Gorelik said:

The energy of a ring contour is .
It is concentrated in a magnetic field
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Magnetic dipole moment is
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After a simple transformation we can write the energy of magnetic field
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We supposed that the electric current was created by the movement of the elementary charge along the circular orbit of radius with the speed of light. (The radius is by times greater then the Compton radius of nucleon. Here is the nuclear magneton.)
Let's take a single nucleon. Its rest mass consists of two parts, - the mass of magnetic field and of the condensed mass of nucleon :
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The energy of a nucleon is also consists of two parts:
.

Let's "imbed" two nucleons, one in one.
Neglect polarization and related changes in the dipole moment.
The energy of dinucleon's magnetic field will increase by 4 times because of a the square over . In the right side of the equation, we must add the energy of emitted photon, which is equal to . It's origin: acceleration of one nucleon's magnet by another nucleon's magnet; growth of kinetic energy and the loss of condensed mass; transition of kinetic energy into the energy of the emitted radiation in the moment of nucleons collision.
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I've already pointed this out as incorrect.

Take a Helium atom. We have two protons. Do we get the magnetic field which you describe here? The magnetic field affects the atomic spectrum, so this should be observable.

[Ivan Gorelik]

From another forum: http://www.thescienc...er=asc&start=15

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I wrote:
People, I am in shock from your silence!

Humans, like a herd of obedient sheep, are lead to the abyss. I, as a mortally frightened lamb, run from side to side of the herd, but the herd do not hear me. They laugh at me and moves slowly, plucking the juicy grass.

People, please, wake up! Open your eyes!

November the 30-th, according to the preliminary plan for the Large Hadron Collider, the collision of protons with energies of 0.45 TeV will be implemented, 14 December - collision with energies of 3.5 TeV. If the magnetic collapse starts, it will be impossible to stop it. It will end with ejection of the Earth’s shell into space.

I give the probability of about 10% that magnetic collapse will start at 0.45 TeV; 50% at 3.5 TeV; 70% - at 7 TeV.
30% I leave to my mistake.

Why is such confidence, - you would ask.

Compare Newtonian black hole and magnetic hole:
GMm / r = mc^ 2 / 2;
pB = mc ^ 2.

It was obtained two independent proofs that the equality pB = mc^2 is reached at the energies, achievable in modern colliders. http://darkenergy.na...ru/magtren.html
There are many arguments in favor of the fact, that magnetic holes exist, and astronomers see them but call them on the error as black holes.
http://darkenergy.narod.ru/argen.html
It was found several great errors and criminal lies in the assessment documents about the safety of LHC.

Humans, are you really obedient sheep, ready to be killed?

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Moderator wrote: You can try to convince with evidence and logic alone. If you post like this again, preaching and insulting, I'll trash your thread. Or lock it. I haven't decided which yet. Maybe both.

For the sake of your and my children, do not trash and lock the thread. We have only several dozens of days to save our and their lives.

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Somebody wrote: I don't consider myself being a sheep or to obey to a herder like I was one. However, what can I do? Throwing explosives to stop them from getting it up and running? Seriously?

I had written the letter to CERN and received the following answer:

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Dear Sender,


our service can not evaluate your theory. Any theory should be supported by calculations and should be submitted to the usual peer-reviewing process (see for example: http://www.iop.org/E...extra/-coll=rev. )
Moreover, for a theory to prove true, one needs to produce an experimental proof. This is the basic rule that distinguish science and science fiction/speculation.


Best wishes,

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CERN Ask an Expert Service...

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The part of upper text, painted in solid, by me.

I wrote letters to Presidents of Russia and Ukraine, to the Prosecutor’s Office and to other authorities. I received several responses that my letters were resend to national Academies of Sciences. I think that my letters were thrown out into rubbish there. But that is a crime. The probability of Earth explosion by LHC is not less than 1/50000000000, as CERN specialists says, but dozens of percents. I do not want to risk and die.

Academic science does hate independent researches. That is why the idea of magnetic hole will never be accepted by science, LHC will be switched on, probably in November 2009. As a result, the magnetic hole will be created. Don't think that it is the same as the gravity black hole! The magnetic hole is much more real and by 10^40 times stronger then black hole.

Two independent proofs that the equality pB = mc^2 is reached at the energies, achievable in modern colliders. http://darkenergy.na...ru/magtren.html
Experimental proofs:
The exploded star was not a red giant, as it was awaited in Big Bang theory, but the star was blue giant in accordance with the theory of Eternal Universe.
Explosion has no spherical symmetry as in the case of gravity collapse, but it has the axial symmetry in accordance with magnetic collapse.
Will our Solar system be the next experimental proof of magnetic hole?

[swansont]

Telling us what you posted elsewhere adds nothing to the conversation. If that's all you have, then there is no reason to keep this discussion open. Proof by repeated assertion is not valid.

[Ivan Gorelik]

Dear people!

Your life, your children’s lives are in your hands.

Humans, like a herd of obedient sheep, are lead to the last abyss. I, as a mortally frightened lamb, run from side to side of the herd, but the herd do not hear me. They laugh at me and moves slowly, plucking the juicy grass.

People, please, wake up! Open your eyes!

November the 30-th, according to the preliminary plan for the Large Hadron Collider, the collision of protons with energies of 0.45 TeV will be implemented, 14 December - collision with energies of 3.5 TeV. If the magnetic collapse starts, it will be impossible to stop it. It will end with ejection of the Earth’s shell into space.

I give the following probabilities:
10% that magnetic collapse will start at 0.45 TeV;
50% at 3.5 TeV;
70% at 7 TeV.
30% I leave to my mistake.

In order to save your lives you must plead your presidents to barn the high-energy experiments in physics.
Here is an Internet address of Russian President http://letters.kremlin.ru/
Can you give me an Internet address of your President?

In order to save your lives you must ask the Head of your country’s Prosecutor’s Office to open the criminal cases against the authors of articles about risk assessment of safety of colliders, because these authors had made there several crude errors, lie and false statements.
Here is an Internet address of Russian Prosecutor’s Office http://www.genproc.g...ipriem/address/
Can you give me an Internet address of your country’s Prosecutors Office?

Here are the main their errors:
1. Equating of consequences of collider particle collisions with collisions of cosmic and atmospheric particles.
2. The computation of the number of destructed protons by hypothetical magnetic monopole.
3. The silent assumption that magnetic monopole does not grow.

Their crime lie is hidden in the statement that stars and planets do not explode. We can see novae and supernovae. We do not know what happened to Phaeton.
My opponents on this and other forums did not give any solid argument that magnetic hole is impossible. Their arguments were aimed, first of all, at bad hints of my person. But those are not the scientific arguments.

Links:
Two independent coinciding math computations of magnetic hole: http://darkenergy.na...ru/magtren.html
Not completed list of proving arguments: http://darkenergy.narod.ru/argen.html
List of errors made in the risk assessment of safety of powerful colliders: http://darkenergy.narod.ru/tezeng.html