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#1 Basiumihi

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Posted 13 August 2005 - 10:17 PM

No one really seems to have to teach another how to kiss, so is it instinctual, or is it just a way that people have found to express their love to one another that has no root in reproduction? I guess to find out this answer, I could find out if chimpanzees or other close relatives of the homo sapiens kiss.
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Posted 13 August 2005 - 10:37 PM

I don't think we can always make an absolute distinction between instinctual and learned behavior. I believe that almost everything has some kind of genetic component and there are usually learned behavioral aspects as well. I imagine that kissing leans towards the learned behavior side of things. Iím guessing that there were a few tribes that didnít kiss. Were Eskimos one of them?
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Posted 13 August 2005 - 10:46 PM

Iím guessing that there were a few tribes that didnít kiss. Were Eskimos one of them?

Swapping spit at 20 below can be dangerous. ;)

I remember reading that kissing was a holdover from infant behavior where the response to having a cheek stroked by the mother's breast was to start sucking in anticipation of being fed. Idk if there is any research to back that up.
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Posted 14 August 2005 - 12:44 AM

i think it is somewhat instincual. think about how long humans have been "kissing"

Also, what i noticed is this: I have two dogs, male and female. The male (buddy) starts to kiss the female (kiva), and by kissing i mean licking her face intensly. Then he starts showing signs of arousal and often tries to mount her (although, she does'nt let him). The licking seems to be like foreplay. I just found that interesting how it seems to be a sexual thing in dogs, as with humans.
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Posted 14 August 2005 - 01:36 AM

well an easy way to differentiate between learned behavior and non-learned behavior here would be to check if isolated tribal cultures practice kissing, or to check the historical record for evidence of kissing
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Posted 14 August 2005 - 04:05 AM

No.

The lips have many sensual nerves which will stimulate the brain. I think it is something that has become inheritied and made normal among people because of what it does, and it's popularity.
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Posted 14 August 2005 - 04:09 AM

why no? if it were learned than it would only be practiced in certain parts of the world and certain time periods
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Posted 14 August 2005 - 08:22 AM

Which leads me to the question, if we were really never ever exposed to sex, would we know how to "do it"? I mean such a case doesn't apply because we are brought up in a society where well we can observe others.

If a test subject were to be raised in complete isolation, would he or she know what to do when meeting the opposite sex.
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Posted 14 August 2005 - 09:22 AM

well what about animals. Im sure theres animals who never see others of their species have intercourse.
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Posted 14 August 2005 - 09:36 AM

that's reproductive instinct. Human minds are different from animals in that human minds can supress their instincts and act in a more "civilized" manner. I'm sure that there would be some, if raised in isolation, that wouldn't be able to figure it out because they would try to figure it out instead of following instinct. The entire reason men are attracted to women and vise versa, is reproductive instinct.
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Posted 14 August 2005 - 09:53 AM

IMO i would err on Instinctual behaviour,affection for strengthening the social bonding of groups.Kissing starts very early,infants are kissed constantly.
Regardless of sex,we all have kissed most members of our family unit.

Kissing's function as a precursor of sexual activity is a non sequitur.One can get too freudian here.You dont kiss aunt Mabels lushious ruby lips at christmas,have a release of endorphins as you imagine how lovely her labia must look!! Do you??
Noticing males also can have fuller lips,Uncle george just doesnt do it for me! :-p
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Posted 20 August 2005 - 03:25 AM

i do not think it is instictive because not all human populations pratice it in anyform, i read before that some Amerindians were confused by its meaning and simply saw it as unhealthy, calling Europeans a word that ment "Dirty Mouths" as to their frequency in kissing, i do not remember the term

This is the most interesting form of "kissing" i've heard of as recorded by Darwin in Malaysia
"The women squatted with their faces upturned; my attendants stood leaning over them, laid the bridge of their noses at right angles over theirs, and commenced rubbing. It lasted somewhat longer than a hearty handshake with us. During this process they uttered a grunt of satisfaction."
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Posted 20 August 2005 - 03:59 AM

if we were really never ever exposed to sex, would we know how to "do it"? .

Good question. The first thing Adam said to Eve was....."Stand back, I don't know how big this thing gets". But not sure if he knew what to do with it.
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Posted 20 August 2005 - 04:00 AM

Iím guessing that there were a few tribes that didnít kiss. Were Eskimos one of them?

I think the Eskimos rubbed noses.
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Posted 20 August 2005 - 04:07 AM

to the sexual instinct I think you would have to look at masturbation as an example, most people were never exposed to how to masturbate, but they learned.
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Posted 15 September 2005 - 02:27 AM

No kissing is not an instinct. Humans are capable of more complex mating rituals, but they are learned traits not hereditary. some may be more adept at somethings due to genetics...but either way it doesnt directly affect your kissing.
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Posted 15 September 2005 - 03:03 AM

Every major, and most minor cultures kiss. Thats a good indicator that that kissing is instinctual part of pair-bonding, much like laughing, smiling, and frowning are instinctual and cross-cultural.
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Posted 15 September 2005 - 03:44 AM

Also, lip-to-lip contact is seen as a social and pair bonding ritual in chimps and bonobos, including wild ones.

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Posted 15 September 2005 - 03:51 AM

Also, lip-to-lip contact is seen as a social and pair bonding ritual in chimps and bonobos, including wild ones.

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Most ( I dare say all when observing the "basics" ) of our pair-bonding behaviour can be observed in the primate world. Its pretty neat.
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Posted 15 September 2005 - 04:14 AM

I know that in 14th 15th and 16th century Europe, family members were inordinately kissing, and even on the mouth, what today we would consider sexual. No one today kisses their sister's or brothers on the mouth in the same fashion they would their girlfriend/boyfriend.
I have no idea the origin of early kissing or the natural behavior process, but I do know that we (humans), like animals, if were shut away from any form of civilization, would know what to 'do' when we were introduced the opposite sex. It is a natural urge and behavior that we can't get around. There are certain instincts that humans are born with, and they are unquestionable and often unaided, they just come with life. i.e eating, sleeping, emotion, mating. unavoidable.
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